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Old April 12th, 2006, 05:56 PM   #2981
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What was the atlanta problem?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:02 PM   #2982
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Oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please tell me this horror has been destructed..........

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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:06 PM   #2983
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I forgot to thank you for the quick answer.
so.... Thank you for this (requested) horrible view.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:25 PM   #2984
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I doubt any bid that does not feature a newly constructed stadium with long term athletics use in mind will be sucessful again.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:30 PM   #2985
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New York is still trying to get the Olympics in the future. The Jets stadium that was going to be built is now not going to be built. However the Mets are going to build a new stadium that will be done by 2009 and will be able to be expanded as an Olympic stadium that can host track and field events.
That plan has been dropped. The Mets stadium will be built as a baseball stadium , and won't be expandable for olympic use.

That plan was just a desperate last minute attempt of the NY Olympic Comittee after the West Side stadium fell through.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:37 PM   #2986
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Dame it's ugly

Your right!
It looked dreadfull!


But they tried to make up to it again
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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:39 PM   #2987
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Oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please tell me this horror has been destructed..........
The stadium was a permanent baseball stadium that had temporary stands built around the rest. The temp stands were gone after the games, but the stadium itself is alive and kicking:

(bottom stadium)








Some shots of the stadium durring the Olympics:










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Old April 12th, 2006, 06:39 PM   #2988
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I remember watching a programme last week about how London must do its best to make sure that mistakes are not made and Atlanta featured in the programme a lot what a horror show it was. Also it was nicknamed the "coca cola" Olympics as they just had so much sponsorship. Another thing was that the people behind it said the Olympics would transform the area such shame they didn't get anywhere near transforming the city as its still badly deprived.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 07:17 PM   #2989
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so what was the capacity of turner field at the time of the olympics?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 08:53 PM   #2990
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About 103,000 seats
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Old April 12th, 2006, 09:11 PM   #2991
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To be back to the olympic stadium of NY:

what was the option for the "athletics to football" change?
Something like the L.A. colliseum?
if you know the expansion of the colliseum from 1984 to now, You know what I mean.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 09:26 PM   #2992
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To be back to the olympic stadium of NY:

what was the option for the "athletics to football" change?
Something like the L.A. colliseum?
if you know the expansion of the colliseum from 1984 to now, You know what I mean.
There would have been significant renovations to convert the stadium to athletics usage, and then back to footbal.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 11:18 PM   #2993
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I remember watching a programme last week about how London must do its best to make sure that mistakes are not made and Atlanta featured in the programme a lot what a horror show it was. Also it was nicknamed the "coca cola" Olympics as they just had so much sponsorship. Another thing was that the people behind it said the Olympics would transform the area such shame they didn't get anywhere near transforming the city as its still badly deprived.
Would you mind elaborating on some points the program made?
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Old April 13th, 2006, 12:27 AM   #2994
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my point
1. basically it seems like 60% of the atlantat stadium was temporary which im pretty amazed with SO why not just create one entire stadium like that without the urrrgly baseball corner and add a second tier along the length of the stadium...THEN just simply add a fabric roof around the stadium to make it look decent....surely another site could have been found for a temporary stadium?
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Old April 13th, 2006, 08:00 AM   #2995
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I doubt any bid that does not feature a newly constructed stadium with long term athletics use in mind will be sucessful again.
Long term athletics use?

Thats not necessary, and the IOC knows that.

But for athletics to be very compatible with the stadium is vital.

I do wonder what the final amount of pay-offs was for the Atlanta bid, it must have reached the tens of millions.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 09:04 AM   #2996
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nice stadium, but it must be better than Atlanta's
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Old April 13th, 2006, 12:12 PM   #2997
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Long term athletics use?

Thats not necessary, and the IOC knows that.

But for athletics to be very compatible with the stadium is vital.

I do wonder what the final amount of pay-offs was for the Atlanta bid, it must have reached the tens of millions.
It may not have been in the past but I believe that a large part of the reason for London winning the 2012 games was that like Beijing they were offering a purpose built stadium that would be kept for athletics use(albeit with a reduced capacity). That sends a clear message that the bid values the olympics and athletics more than one which features a stadium to be converted for other uses plus of course provides more athletics facilites.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:50 PM   #2998
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^No.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #2999
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Well I'm convince by that indepth arguement.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 08:48 PM   #3000
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I'm not your research assistance. A quick google of London's bid tells you why London was even close in the vote (don't forget the voting error, which alone renders the stadium argument useless). London's bid has been cheered for its land reuse. Just listening to the committee talk, they all like the idea of reuse and non "white elephant" projects. This was part of why they so willingly let go of baseball and softball. It was obvious they felt nations were beginning to make the economics worse for the next bid.
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