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London, UK 280 25.23%
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Old May 27th, 2006, 10:23 AM   #3101
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2020 might be an option if a US city doesn't succeed for 2016.
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Old May 27th, 2006, 04:39 PM   #3102
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I was pretty young when the Atlanta Olympics went on, so I don't understand why Atlanta's Olympics are considered my many as the "worst ever"(aside from the terrorist attack).

I dont believe there have ever been a "bad Olympics", each games have been very successful.
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Old May 27th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #3103
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What was so bad about the Atlanta Olympics? I thought they were exciting.
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Old May 27th, 2006, 10:24 PM   #3104
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Old May 27th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #3105
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I agree, the Atlanta Games weren't perfect, but on the whole, they were pretty good. What games is perfect anyway?
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Old May 28th, 2006, 05:59 PM   #3106
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Buenos Aires for 2016 Olympics

Argentina's vice president Daniel Scioli had a meeting this week with Jacques Rogge and both agreed that Buenos Aires could host the 2016 Olympics , after the recently rebounding of country's economy that follow the crash of 2001. Rogge also said that the IOC would love to see the Olympics in Africa or South America . Of all the cities in South America, Buenos Aires has experienced the most success: it was a candidate city for the 1968 and 2004 Summer Games. It almost became the host city for the Games of the XVI Olympiad of 1956, losing to Melbourne, Australia by only one vote during 43rd IOC Session in Rome in 1949. In terms of previous experience in organizing large-scale sporting events, Buenos Aires and Argentina have an impressive résumé: Buenos Aires organized the 1st Pan American Games in 1951, while Buenos Aires co-hosted the 12th Pan American Games in 1995 with the cities of Mar del Plata and La Plata. Argentina also hosted the 1978 FIFA World Cup.

Here's the new of the meeting, sorry but it's in spanish :

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.ph...Seccion=100799
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Old May 28th, 2006, 08:53 PM   #3107
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Would love to see it, but I can't believe it.
I think the money can be spent better in Argentina at this moment or are things starting to get better there?
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Old May 28th, 2006, 09:02 PM   #3108
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That would be great! I'm crossing my fingers. BA or SF.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 09:05 PM   #3109
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SF? (San Fransisco?)
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Old May 28th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #3110
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Would love to see it, but I can't believe it.
I think the money can be spent better in Argentina at this moment or are things starting to get better there?
Well off course that the situation in Argentina is not perfect in these days, but since 2003 the country's economy is booming and it's growing 9% per year . The people below poverty line, who in the middle of 2002 were more than 55 % now are reduce to 33 % , the exportations are increasing , the unemployment rates is dropping also, I think that in 3 years Argentina will be in the same situation of 1997 when the city became one of the 5 cities that made the final cut to host the 2004 Olympics .
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Old May 28th, 2006, 09:50 PM   #3111
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I let you this article of the influent Washington Post about the Argentina's economy nowdays :

Argentina Emerging
Has Kirchner's Protectionist Approach Been Key to 'Miracle' Recovery?

By Marcela Sanchez
Friday, April 28, 2006; 12:00 AM

WASHINGTON -- Five years ago, Argentina's economy crashed, plunging the country into depths of poverty and unemployment comparable to those of the Great Depression in the United States. While it took more than a decade and a world war for the United States to recover, Argentina is already on the rebound and is expected to be the strongest economic performer in Latin America this year.

Last week, the International Monetary Fund and the U.N. Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean upgraded their economic forecasts to predict 2006 growth rates for Argentina of 7.3 percent and 7.5 percent respectively, the highest in the region -- scarcely four years after the country's gross domestic product was negative 10.9 percent. Argentina's collapse led to the largest loan default in world history, yet early this year the South American country paid its total IMF obligations of $9.6 billion.


Argentina's recovery is no miracle, not even a model worth following, Argentine officials claim. If anything, they say, it is an Argentine solution to an Argentine problem.

"We had our own recipe,'' President Nestor Kirchner said last week, verbally thumbing his nose at outsiders, such as the IMF, whose prescriptions he has rejected. "If we had followed ... the Fund and all the rest,'' he added, "we know how we Argentines would have faired.''

Countering what Jose Octavio Bordon, Argentina's ambassador to the United States, called the "indiscriminate liberalization" of the past, Kirchner has adopted protectionist measures such as quotas and tariffs on imports to revitalize local industries. Even products from Brazil, Argentina's neighbor and Mercosur trade-bloc partner, are taxed. While conventional wisdom suggests protectionism makes local industries lazy and uncompetitive, Argentina now exports more than ever before.

Kirchner's government has also taken steps to reestablish state ownership of companies privatized during the 1990s, such as a French water company and an Argentine passenger rail line. Critics call these efforts a case of collective amnesia, as Argentina seems to have forgotten that many state-run utilities were failures. Yet the government appears to be a better manager this time around, turning a profit with the postal service that it nationalized in 2003.

Protectionism and nationalization combined with price controls and the freeze on utility rates, plus a recent history of loan defaults, would seem to make Argentina unattractive to both domestic and international investors. But investment has more than doubled since the crisis to 24 percent of GDP, and rose from $29 billion in 2004 to $41 billion in 2005.

Last month, Argentina offered its first bond issue to international investors since 2001 and Standard & Poor's raised its credit rating for the second time in a year.

In the process of renegotiating its debt with private creditors -- a milestone that reduced interest payments from 8 percent of GDP to 2 percent -- Argentina may have created a "revolutionary instrument,'' as the Financial Times called it, that links loan payments to the country's economic performance.

After establishing a base rate of return, Argentina promises to make higher payments as the country's growth rate improves and pay less if it declines. This GDP warrant offers at least two significant advantages, according to Walter Molano, an emerging-markets analyst for BCP Securities.

First, it gives bondholders a reason to want "to make sure that Argentina grows as much as possible.'' Second, it reduces the role played by multilateral creditors such as the IMF and the World Bank, which also left many bondholders disenchanted.

For now, both Argentine officials and economists in Washington agree there is a long way to go before declaring victory. Inflation is a big threat to recovery and Argentina's poverty rate still stands at 34 percent, although down from 57 percent just four years ago. In terms of wealth distribution, which many analysts see as Kirchner's main goal, his measures are failing. According to the National Statistics and Census Institute, the richest segment of the population is expanding its income at a much faster clip than the poorest segment.

Not long ago, Argentina was Washington's poster child for the need to implement market reforms. Now, it seems, rejecting some of those policies outright has become key to Argentina's recovery. Skeptics here and throughout the hemisphere may one day be proven correct. But whatever new advice Washington's thinkers may offer will certainly be taken with a grain of salt in Argentina. For the time being, at least, Argentina's protectionist approach -- and its rebellion against the IMF -- seems to be making progress where other models did not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042701375.html
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Old May 28th, 2006, 11:48 PM   #3112
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i fully support a buenos aires, or rio or istanbul bid..with buenos aires being my preferred city
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Old May 28th, 2006, 11:50 PM   #3113
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i have already had many ideas regarding this bid before this news....my olympic park idea was situated around puerto madero...
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Old May 29th, 2006, 01:23 AM   #3114
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Buenos Aires would be an amazing site for the Olympics! I hope they get the games!
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Old May 29th, 2006, 06:52 AM   #3115
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I hope so too. Good luck!
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Old May 29th, 2006, 06:58 AM   #3116
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That economic report is impressive. I'm sure the developing world can learn a lot from the argentinians. BA is definitely deserving of the 2016 Olympics
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Old May 29th, 2006, 07:34 AM   #3117
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I hope so too. Good luck!
Yeah.. I hope so too..
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Old May 29th, 2006, 07:36 AM   #3118
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Miami is a nice city, but not an Olympic city. If we are talking about cities in the US hosting the games, then there ae many more able cities than Miami.
Yeah.. like San Diego because has a perfect weather.
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Old May 29th, 2006, 07:49 AM   #3119
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Please go no, not after the worst Olympics ever in Atlanta!
So..after Atlanta being as bad as it was (which it wasn't), the Olympics shouldn't go to Miami?

You're pretty funny there guy.
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Old May 29th, 2006, 07:50 AM   #3120
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i love miami and i've just left after 8 yrs. it's great and all but i think that the olympics there are very unlikely. where will they build the stadiums??? they'de have to whether tear down lots of houses or a few acres of the everglades and both are unpopular.
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