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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old January 11th, 2007, 07:43 AM   #3561
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LA does have more venues already in place but Chicago already has many more venues then most cities who will think about bidding. If LA will not have held it 32 years before I would say LA's appeal would be near as appealing or surpass Chicago's. But as great as LA is it is not London or Paris and I don't see the IOC going back to the well for prior cities instead of new blood especially after only 32 years and considering the U.S. has many marquee cities suiteable for hosting.

I do have concerns about Chicagos Olympic stadium plan but they are essentially doing similar to what London is planning and massively downsizing it to become a more realistic and used long term athletics center.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 07:43 AM   #3562
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Everyone dream on with your high hopes..... Los Angeles hands down is mastering this puppy in 2016. I guess like they say for those other cities, dream on since it's free. L.A. is a shoe in, again!!!!!
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Old January 11th, 2007, 07:45 AM   #3563
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Just a note, existing venues dont win olympic bids. Chicago if it is able to produce a firm stadium plan/deal has the O-factor to win an Olympic bid. Not that LA lacks the ability to win. The 1984 games were great...so now lets go there again? With so many great cities to choose from why return to LA?
What is the O factor Mo? Oprah?

Chicago could also provide MJ as the torch lighter for the games, not a bad plus.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 07:51 AM   #3564
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I voted for Rio, I think that would be a great city for the olympics, I would like to see South Africa get it, but I am being cautious with WC 2010 coming up and wondering how that would go. I hope Auckland but in a bid too as I think New Zealand could host a great games.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 09:00 AM   #3565
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Just a note, existing venues dont win olympic bids.

...but non-existing ones will absolutely lose 'em. Look at NYC's failed bids.

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With so many great cities to choose from why return to LA?
Ummm, better ask London that question first. The already got their *third* Olympiad selected.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #3566
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The only new venue is a scalable temporary olympic stadium located in the Hyde Park neighborhood. The stadium would have 10,000 seats recessed in a bowl w/ an additional 80,000 above street grade. After the Games, the 80,000 would be removed.

I think that's a big waste. An Olympic stadium is supposed to be a living legacy of the games, not some temporary facility. Why couldn't they make it a new home for Da Bearssss? Why couldn't Soldier Field be the Olympic Stadium?
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Old January 11th, 2007, 09:41 AM   #3567
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I think that's a big waste. An Olympic stadium is supposed to be a living legacy of the games, not some temporary facility. Why couldn't they make it a new home for Da Bearssss? Why couldn't Soldier Field be the Olympic Stadium?

no room for track and field.

Also, the LA Bid has been altered a bit, with the Venues being more centralized. If the bid committee really wanted, they could host all the events in Los Angeles City. As the bid currently stands, almost every venue is linked by rail or will be by 2016. There are 3 major nodes where the games will be held, and a 2 mile stretch of Figueroa Blvd. downtown has the Colosseum, the Galen Center, the Nokia Theater, the Staples Center and Dodger Stadium.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 09:49 AM   #3568
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I vote for Rio. It would be nice to have a South American city host for the first time.

I too am tired of a North American city hosting every few years.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:16 AM   #3569
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I think that's a big waste. An Olympic stadium is supposed to be a living legacy of the games, not some temporary facility. Why couldn't they make it a new home for Da Bearssss? Why couldn't Soldier Field be the Olympic Stadium?
Well the way the majority of Olymic stadiums have been used they have been white elephants who may as well have been temporary. Maybe better to scale them down after for them to get more use and be more practical.

The Bears have a new stadium less then five years old. Soldier Field can't be expanded to 80-100k without major renovations and rehall that would probably cost more then it would to build the temporary.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:19 AM   #3570
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I vote for Rio. It would be nice to have a South American city host for the first time.

I too am tired of a North American city hosting every few years.
Rio is my top choice if Chicago doesn't fly for whatever reason. I can certainly understand its appeal and think it would make a great host. There may be some infrastructure and gang issues but if they don't worry the IOC then I certainly would throw my lot behind them.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:28 AM   #3571
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Do people expect Rio to host the WOrld cup in 14 and the Olympics two years later?? Surely not.

Its only a matter of time before Rio gets the games, just not sure 2016 is it. Maybe the 20 games?
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:38 AM   #3572
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...but non-existing ones will absolutely lose 'em. Look at NYC's failed bids.



Ummm, better ask London that question first. The already got their *third* Olympiad selected.
However this is the first time that London has actually 'won' the Olympic hosting rights.

1908 was originally intended for Rome with London coming in as the backup at the last minute. Similarly 1948 games defaulted to London because it was the only European city that was capable of hosting the games after the war.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 10:39 AM   #3573
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Do people expect Rio to host the WOrld cup in 14 and the Olympics two years later?? Surely not.

Its only a matter of time before Rio gets the games, just not sure 2016 is it. Maybe the 20 games?
I don't see that as being a big factor. It will hold the the WC with 8-10 other cities.

A more important indicator will be how well the facilities and the games go for Rio's Pan American games.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 11:01 AM   #3574
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Old January 11th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #3575
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I would like it to take place in South America (Buenos Aires or Rio De Janeiro) but I don't see their chances as big, so therefore my vote goes to Madrid who should have won the bid for the 2012 Summer Olympic Games.
It's very modern, it has the second largest Metro network in Western Europe and it's been one of the fastest growing networks in the world. Its Metro is state-of-the-art, very clean, safe and efficient. The city has also a very good commuter train service and one of the world's biggest and most modern airports, Barajas. Madrid is also famous for its long-lived sporting traditions and it also has a very good sports infrastructure with Santiago Bernabeu being the most famous one. The city is also quite big (over 5 million inhabitants in its Metropolitan Area) and very vibrant, it's called in Europe the city that never sleeps due to a very intense and rich night life. It's also a city for the family with many museums, leisure places and sites and buildings of historical interest. Madrid displays also a very good architecture and right now it's not only living a Metro, train and tram boom (since many years ago) but also a high-rise boom with Cuatro Torres Business Area being the most famous one.

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Madrid has an excellent climate, excellent location in the middle of the Iberian Peninsula and in the crossway between the Northern Europe, The Atlantic Area and The Mediterranean Area. Madrid also has high vigilance, a deep-rooted tradition in culture and sports, extremely good public transport and a vast network of motorways. Add on top of that great sports infrastructure and a modern city with exquisite architecture.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #3576
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I would say the dubai or qatar are bound to get the olympics sooner or later, 2020 if not 2016. As for the isreali competitors, they would have to allow those people, cuz surely you can't make a serious bid for the olympics and not take that factor into consideration.

Apart from that, by 2016, and surely by 2020, Dubai will become one of the greatest cities in the world, and will also have one of the best infrastructures and transportation networks, and anything else that might be a requirement, so I wouldn't rule out Dubai, as long as it's leaders are serious about being a host (which I'm not too sure of though)

Qatar will also be a nice little country by 2016 and 2020, and it will have excellent infrastructure too.

As for sporting history, these two don't have too many accomplishments, but they are beginning to host quite a lot of sporting events, horse racing, motor sports, tennis, golf, doha asian games 2006/asian olympics

Plus, I would like to see the olympics in the middle east, it will be a nice change.

My concern is the hot summer weather! How could they tackle that? Air conditioning at the sporting venues and stadiums perhaps? Perhaps there could be some other way of keeping the venues cool.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 12:35 PM   #3577
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Old January 11th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #3578
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Everythings already in place. It will be LA.
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Old January 11th, 2007, 12:58 PM   #3579
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Old January 11th, 2007, 02:48 PM   #3580
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Very likely...

LA has all the venues needed already in place..not to mention the history of hosting two fantastic Olympics..also fantastic weather, a cosmopolitan population of 18 million ppl, mountains, beaches, the Pacific Ocean, the fame of Hollywood, world-renowned theme parks and resorts, a growing rail mass-transit network, many athletes already train in LA from all over the world...its highly likely the 2016 games will be either in North America or South America and LA has a tremendous advantage over the other North American contenders. The 2008 games goes to Beijing (Asia) and 2012 games to England (Europe) and the 2016 games to North America and most likely LA
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