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Old February 2nd, 2008, 08:13 AM   #4421
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are you aware that Qatar is a desert ? and that were trying to balance the desert and green areas together...
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 08:36 AM   #4422
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Fulfilling Qatar’s Vision for the Future

The Doha 2016 concept aligns perfectly with the Qatar Olympic
Committee’s (QOC) Master Plan for Venue Development, which
describes the long-term need to build a range of facilities for the
development of sport and the benefit of society. This plan includes
four new facilities that will serve as Olympic Venues. It also includes
smaller competition, training, and support facilities at Doha’s
numerous sports clubs, which will also be used for the Games.

The QOC’s stated mission is "to become a leading nation at
bringing the world together through sport," and the Doha 2016
concept supports this mission. All new permanent venues in the
Doha 2016 concept support and benefit the long-term plan. Where
permanent venues are not needed, Doha 2016 will use temporary
venues for the Games.

New competition and non-competition facilities also align with
Doha’s long-term development strategies as expressed by the
Qatar Urban Planning and Development Authority in the Qatar
Master Plan to 2025, the mission of which is:
“To implement a physical development plan that promotes
the vision for Qatar as the academic centre, sports centre,
and major tourist centre of the Middle East.”
The Qatar Master Plan also proposes to develop high-quality
housing and mixed-use infrastructure along major mass transit
corridors. The Doha 2016 plan serves each of the plan’s goals,
particularly through the development of the Olympic Village, the
Media Village and new sports facilities. The “Media City” complex
also supports Qatar University’s expansion plans.

The plan for the “Media City” ensures a positive Games-time
experience for an important Olympic client. The combined MMC
and Media Village significantly improves travel times for the media,
as more than 90% of the media will reside within easy walking
distance of the MMC, which is an average of only 14 km from the
competition venues. The MMC will provide for all the media’s
working needs.

The Doha 2016 concept places the venues on primary transportation
corridors served by major highways and immediately adjacent to
planned routes of the Doha Metro. The transport requirements for
the Games match precisely with the ongoing programme to improve
the road network and develop mass transit.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 08:56 AM   #4423
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From the Application File

A Commitment to Legacy and Sustainability

Doha 2016 also proposes to use four planned venues for the
Games, all of which are part of the Qatar Olympic Committee’s
Master Plan for Venue Development. In line with its mission,
“to become a leading nation at bringing the world together
through sport,” The QOC plans to create a new swimming centre
at Al-Gharaffa Club, a new slalom facility for canoe/kayak at Aspire,
and the new Qatar Dome at the Qatar Club. Each of these facilities
will meet the long-term needs of the community and further
advance sport in Doha. The new multi-purpose Sports Complex is
being built at the Shafallah Center for Children with Special Needs
and will be used as the boxing venue for the Games.


The new slalom facility will be the focal point for an “extreme”
sports complex and water park being created as part of the Aspire
Sports City. The new international swimming centre will be an
adaptable structure that normally seats 4,000 spectators but is
designed to be easily modified with additional temporary seating
for the Games and then down-sized again in legacy mode. The
Qatar Dome will be the first indoor international football facility in
the Middle East. It will create year-round opportunities for major
matches, while at the same time providing much needed exhibition
space and community space, integrated into the city centre.


Each of the new venues has a significant long-term use and will
create opportunities for the people of Doha, the region and the
sporting world. Doha 2016 is also conducting design competitions
for use of sustainable materials and environmentally-sound
energy solutions and also water conservation solutions in all new
construction of competition and non-competition venues.

In all, six venues will be temporary, including the cycling venues
and the beach volleyball venue. In each case, the venue is
developed around world-class competition facilities. Doha 2016
also proposes temporary adaptations for many of the permanent
facilities to increase spectator capacity for the Games while the
permanent venues are sized appropriately for legacy use.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 01:22 AM   #4424
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I think Chicago will win it, just for one reason: it is located in the USA, north hemisphere, and it is time for an american city to host the olympic games.

However USA is the major greenhouse gases emitter in the world, it did not follow kyoto protocol and it is permanently under threat of terror. These do not seem to harmonize with a olympic bid, do they?

Rio has big problems with crime and public transport. Some solutions are underway, with or without the 2016 olympic games, since there is the 2014 world cup and the city will host the final match.

But i still think Chicago will be the winner.
Terrorism doesn't phase the IOC that much. Just 24 hours after london was picked it had terrorist attack it's tube system. The IOC easily could've chosen a different host city.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 02:27 AM   #4425
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Terrorism doesn't phase the IOC that much. Just 24 hours after london was picked it had terrorist attack it's tube system. The IOC easily could've chosen a different host city.
well it would have had an impact if the terrorists attack took place the day before the IOC vote. The IOC wouldn't be able to choose a different host city after its decision.
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Jacques Rogge and his IOC have the power to change any host city. It's been done before......
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Jacques Rogge and his IOC have the power to change any host city. It's been done before......
when?
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Old February 4th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #4428
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yeah when ????
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #4429
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yeah when ????
1904 Summer Olympics, officially known as the Games of the III Olympiad, were held in St. Louis, Missouri in the United States from July 1, 1904 to November 23, 1904, at what is now known as Francis Field on the campus of Washington University in St. Louis. Chicago had won the original bid to host the games, but the Louisiana Purchase Exposition would not accept another international event in the same time frame.

The organization began to plan for its own sports activities, informing the Chicago OCOG that the Exposition intended to eclipse the Olympic Games unless the games would be moved to St. Louis. Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympic movement, gave in and awarded the games to St. Louis.

1920 Olympics. Budapest had initially won to host the Games over Amsterdam and Lyon, but as the Austro-Hungarian Empire had been a German ally in the First World War, the Games were transferred in April 1919. Hungary, Germany, Austria, Bulgaria and Turkey were also banned from the Games.

The anticipated 1940 Summer Olympics, which were to be officially known as Games of the XII Olympiad and originally programmed to be celebrated between September 21 and October 6, 1940 in Tokyo, Empire of Japan, were cancelled due to World War II. The Games were retracted from Tokyo by the IOC due to the outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937. They were awarded to the runner-up Helsinki, Finland.
This is not even mentioning the winter Olympic host cities that had problems and had to be switched as well.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #4430
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the USA may be a major green house gas emitter, but California is starting the turn around to green energy and as long as a Democrat wins the election, there will be tougher greenhouse gases regulations.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #4431
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1904 Summer Olympics, officially known as the Games of the III Olympiad, were held in St. Louis, Missouri in the United States from July 1, 1904 to November 23, 1904, at what is now known as Francis Field on the campus of Washington University in St. Louis. Chicago had won the original bid to host the games, but the Louisiana Purchase Exposition would not accept another international event in the same time frame.

The organization began to plan for its own sports activities, informing the Chicago OCOG that the Exposition intended to eclipse the Olympic Games unless the games would be moved to St. Louis. Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympic movement, gave in and awarded the games to St. Louis.

1920 Olympics. Budapest had initially won to host the Games over Amsterdam and Lyon, but as the Austro-Hungarian Empire had been a German ally in the First World War, the Games were transferred in April 1919. Hungary, Germany, Austria, Bulgaria and Turkey were also banned from the Games.

The anticipated 1940 Summer Olympics, which were to be officially known as Games of the XII Olympiad and originally programmed to be celebrated between September 21 and October 6, 1940 in Tokyo, Empire of Japan, were cancelled due to World War II. The Games were retracted from Tokyo by the IOC due to the outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937. They were awarded to the runner-up Helsinki, Finland.
This is not even mentioning the winter Olympic host cities that had problems and had to be switched as well.
exactly. you're using 1904 and times of world wars to justify your argument that the IOC and Jacques Rogge can choose and change their minds as they wish. The Olympic Games in 1904 is a very different situation to the Games today in scale and otherwise. your enthusiasm is appreciated though.
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exactly. you're using 1904 and times of world wars to justify your argument that the IOC and Jacques Rogge can choose and change their minds as they wish. The Olympic Games in 1904 is a very different situation to the Games today in scale and otherwise. your enthusiasm is appreciated though.
I'm pretty sure if theres a situation to where they have to cancel or move the Olympics they will do it. If London was a target during a war they would switch it I'm positive. If beijings stadium were to collapse beyond repair or if china was being bombed what would you do Mo? Would you let the games continue? I sure as hell wouldn't. The original argument anyways was that the IOC can't change the host city. The IOC almost took the Olympics away from athens because of there shitty planning and construction.
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Im glad we build green buildings now, even though global warming is fake.
Please excuse this comment. After all hes texan and Bush is from texas.
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Please excuse this comment. After all hes texan and Bush is from texas.
Now come on, I voted for the other guy.
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... That was the proposal for the Sydney Olympic Stadium..
http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/s...neyolympic.php
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Now come on, I voted for the other guy.
Ok ok. But it is real. I believe that the earth is just going through a cycle and we're speeding up the process. The speeding up is the global warming.
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... That was the proposal for the Sydney Olympic Stadium..
http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/s...neyolympic.php
The proposal from which the Khalifa stadium was designed and built,and what it will most likely end up looking like if Doha are awarded the Games.
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From the Application File

A Commitment to Legacy and Sustainability

Doha 2016 also proposes to use four planned venues for the
Games, all of which are part of the Qatar Olympic Committee’s
Master Plan for Venue Development. In line with its mission,
“to become a leading nation at bringing the world together
through sport,” The QOC plans to create a new swimming centre
at Al-Gharaffa Club, a new slalom facility for canoe/kayak at Aspire,
and the new Qatar Dome at the Qatar Club. Each of these facilities
will meet the long-term needs of the community and further
advance sport in Doha. The new multi-purpose Sports Complex is
being built at the Shafallah Center for Children with Special Needs
and will be used as the boxing venue for the Games.


The new slalom facility will be the focal point for an “extreme”
sports complex and water park being created as part of the Aspire
Sports City. The new international swimming centre will be an
adaptable structure that normally seats 4,000 spectators but is
designed to be easily modified with additional temporary seating
for the Games and then down-sized again in legacy mode. The
Qatar Dome will be the first indoor international football facility in
the Middle East. It will create year-round opportunities for major
matches, while at the same time providing much needed exhibition
space and community space, integrated into the city centre.


Each of the new venues has a significant long-term use and will
create opportunities for the people of Doha, the region and the
sporting world. Doha 2016 is also conducting design competitions
for use of sustainable materials and environmentally-sound
energy solutions and also water conservation solutions in all new
construction of competition and non-competition venues.

In all, six venues will be temporary, including the cycling venues
and the beach volleyball venue. In each case, the venue is
developed around world-class competition facilities. Doha 2016
also proposes temporary adaptations for many of the permanent
facilities to increase spectator capacity for the Games while the
permanent venues are sized appropriately for legacy use.
or people could download the application file themselves and read it over there.
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the problem is people are likely not to do that
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the problem is people are likely not to do that
I did.
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