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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old June 4th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #4521
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We have a shortlist: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
  • Chicago, USA
  • Madrid, Spain
  • Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
  • Tokyo, Japan
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Old June 4th, 2008, 08:05 PM   #4522
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according to the IOC Doha was supposed to be included to the shortlist as 5 canidates but they took it out for the following reason:

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The Working Group has reached the following conclusion which reflects the overall assessment of each city in relation to the benchmark that was set. In each case, the Applicant Cities are listed in the order of drawing of lots established by the IOC Executive Board in 2007.

· The Working Group believes that Chicago, Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro, Doha* and Madrid have the potential to host the 2016 Olympic Games.

· The Working Group concludes that Prague and Baku do not have the requisite level of capability at this time to host the 2016 Olympic Games.

*Doha proposes dates which fall outside of the period specified by the IOC (15 July – 31 August). The Working Group has commented on meteorological conditions during the dates proposed by Doha (14 to 30 October), but has not made an assessment on the potential risk of holding the Olympic Games at this time. The Working Group feels this is a matter for the Executive Board’s consideration.



Source: (taken from the ioc's website)
http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_1317.pdf

Timing can you belive it !!! this means that doha acctually CAN and has the ABILITY to host the event.

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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #4523
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Rio 2016!
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:07 PM   #4524
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Rio could be dropped off Olympic shortlist

Lausanne, 8 May 2008
Rio de Janeiro's hopes of hosting the 2016 Summer Olympic Games were dealt a major blow as rumours prevailed that Rio has failed to make the shortlist of candidates . Sources close to Lausanne, the IOC headquarters, say that the IOC's technical team have postponed the finalization of the technical report to be handed to the IOC executive board, who will make the final decision.

While IOC president Jacques Rogge has praised Rio for its preparations and hosting of the 2007 Pan Am Games, sources now say that only 3 cities will be presented to the IOC executive board as candidates , amid fears that the Rio's weak infrastructure along with inadequate accommodation, presents too large a risk for the Olympic movement. Sources say that Chicago, Tokyo and Madrid comprise the 3-city shortlist.

The shortlist of candidate cities is expected to be announced next month and the winning city in Copenhagen in 2009.
and then rio was added..
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:12 PM   #4525
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according to the IOC Doha was supposed to be included to the shortlist as 5 canidates but they took it out for the following reason:




Source: (taken from the ioc's website)
http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_1317.pdf

Timing can you belive it !!! this means that doha acctually CAN and has the ABILITY to host the event.
wow! only a microscopic reason took out Doha from the short list! But most of the selected cities countries have hosted or from the same continent as England.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #4526
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doha is essentially ranked on par with chicago. think the conidtions in beijing might have resulted in the IOC being a bit shaky of the proposed games dates.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #4527
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I'm surprised at Chicago's low ranking. Doha has an advantage over Chicago in that they have an absolutely guarunteed revnue stream, which Chicago doesn't as of yet. But apart from that it's difficult to see why Chicago should be level with Doha given that it's in a country with a huge population, plenty of hotel space, will almost certainly break London's sponsorship record, and is in a country with a strong Olympic pedigree.

It'll be interesting to see a detailed report.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #4528
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My vote

1. Madrid
2. Doha
3. Baku
4. Prague
5. Rio De Janeiro
6. Chicago
7. Tokyo
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #4529
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So Doha just lost because of the date / weather?
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #4530
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yep, even though it had plenty of rights, but mainly it was just the date
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Old June 4th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #4531
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I'm surprised at Chicago's low ranking. Doha has an advantage over Chicago in that they have an absolutely guarunteed revnue stream, which Chicago doesn't as of yet. But apart from that it's difficult to see why Chicago should be level with Doha given that it's in a country with a huge population, plenty of hotel space, will almost certainly break London's sponsorship record, and is in a country with a strong Olympic pedigree.

It'll be interesting to see a detailed report.
yip. the flaws are with the ioc technical evaluation process which MUST be reviewed if it is to stay relevant. On paper and in reality a games by Chicago ranks far ahead of Doha.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 10:11 PM   #4532
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Now that Rio pass throught the worst we have a strong bid!! Cause now is all about politics!!
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Old June 4th, 2008, 10:23 PM   #4533
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You're not wrong tadeu. Rio have overcome their biggest hurdle and anything could happen now; Tokyo, Madrid and Chicago have done as expected.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #4534
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can we make a new poll? or edit this one?
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Old June 4th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #4535
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You're not wrong tadeu. Rio have overcome their biggest hurdle and anything could happen now; Tokyo, Madrid and Chicago have done as expected.
Well, now the spectre of 2014 being too close will haunt Rio.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 11:08 PM   #4536
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Courtesy Sports Illustrated
ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Chicago was among the four cities picked as finalists Wednesday for the 2016 Summer Olympics, setting the stage for a high-profile bidding contest between candidates from the United States, Europe and Asia.

Also making the IOC shortlist were Madrid, Spain; Tokyo, and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Eliminated from the race were Doha, Qatar; Prague, Czech Republic, and Baku, Azerbaijan.

The final field was selected by the International Olympic Commit The big four -- Chicago, Madrid, Tokyo and Rio -- all had been virtually assured of advancing to the final stage. The main issue had been whether Doha also would make the cut.

The finalists now advance to a 16-month race that will culminate on Oct. 2, 2009, with a secret ballot by the full IOC at its session in Copenhagen, Denmark.

An IOC evalutation report assessing the technical merits of each bid ranked Tokyo with the top overall marks, followed closely by Madrid. Chicago and Doha were tied for third, with Rio fourth. Prague and Baku were sixth and seventh.

Chicago is a contender to take the Summer Olympics back to the U.S. for the first time since the 1996 Atlanta Games. Madrid is back again after a third-place finish in the vote for the 2012 Olympics, which went to London. Tokyo, which held the Summer Games in 1964, hopes to bring the Olympics to Asia eight years after Beijing. And Rio, which hosted the 2007 Pan American Games, would be the first South American city to get the Olympics.

Doha, capital of a tiny but wealthy Arab Gulf country of about 1 million people, had loomed as the wild card as it sought to bring the Olympics to the Middle East for the first time. It cited its hosting of the 2006 Asian Games as evidence that it can handle the Olympics. Due to Qatar's searing summer heat, Doha proposed holding the games in October, outside the IOC's preferred time frame of July or August.

Some rival bid officials had been worried that if Doha made the shortlist, the city -- while a long shot to win -- would have the capacity to take away crucial votes in the early rounds of voting.

Cities that made the cut will have to submit their detailed bid files to the IOC by Feb. 12, 2009. After that, a panel of IOC experts will visit each of the cities, tour the proposed sites and meet with bid and government leaders. The panel will release an evaluation report to the IOC members a month before the October 2009 vote.

The 2016 decision was the centerpiece of a three-day IOC board meeting in Athens, the last before the committee gathers in Beijing on the eve of the Aug. 8-24 Olympics.
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What about Rio giving up being the host city of 2014 WC? If they fails the Olympic bid, they can go back to WC
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2016 Summer Olympics / Games of the XXXI Olympiad bids

Now there are only four. It´s a new race!!

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Old June 4th, 2008, 11:31 PM   #4539
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Wow I just cast the first vote on this poll. I want your congratulations!
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Four cities chosen as 2016 Games candidates

Karolos Grohmann, Reuters
Published: Wednesday, June 04, 2008

ATHENS, June 4 (Reuters) - Chicago, Tokyo, Madrid and Rio de Janeiro were named on Wednesday as candidate cities to host the 2016 Olympic Games, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said.

Qatar's Doha, which was rated by the IOC's working group as the third best overall bid, Azerbaijan's Baku and the Czech capital Prague fell at the first hurdle.

"All the bids were of a very high standard," said IOC President Jacques Rogge.

"It is a tribute to the health of the Olympic movement that the field was so strong. I congratulate the candidate cities and I hope that those cities which were unsuccessful this time have benefited from the process."

The candidate cities must now compile an in-depth file of their Olympic project and submit themselves to a visit by the IOC's Evaluation Commission. The election of the host city will take place on Oct. 2, 2009, at the IOC Session in Copenhagen.

"We wanted to make the next phase and we made a good bid but it is always a relief to hear your name read out," U.S. IOC member Bob Ctvrtlik, who was with the Chicago bid, told Reuters.

Tokyo, hosts of the 1964 Games, topped the IOC working group's overall technical evaluation with Madrid second. Chicago and Doha tied for third with Rio in fourth place, the report said.

"We are delighted with the evaluation but we have not seen it yet and we must now analyse it very carefully to strengthen our weak points and make our strong points stronger," Tokyo bid chief Ichiro Kono told Reuters.

DOHA DIVIDE

IOC executive board members, who picked the candidate cities, had been divided for weeks whether Doha should be included in the shortlist.

Some members argued the city of about 500,000 was too small to deal with an event of such magnitude despite staging successful Asian Games in 2006.

Doha also planned to stage the Games in October instead of the usual summer months, due to the soaring desert heat.

"The weather was the main reason we were left off the shortlist," Doha bid official Aneesa Al Hitimi told Reuters.

An IOC official said the decision for the shortlist was unanimous among the 14 Executive Board members and Rogge, despite a 30-minute delay in the announcement that momentarily raised questions about whether there was a consensus.

IOC Communications Director Giselle Davies said Doha's decision to plan for Games in October had been a major drawback.

"The IOC Executive Board unanimously decided not to grant this exception as it conflicts with the international sporting calendar and would therefore be bad for the athletes and for sports fans," Davies said.

"Does this mean Doha or another country from the Middle East could never host the Olympic Games? No, not necessarily, especially given the IOC's desire to see the Games held around the world," she added.

The decision sparked wild celebrations among Chicago bid officials gathered at a downtown Chicago office with their cheers drowning out the other shortlisted cities.

(Additional reporting by Barney Spender in Athens, Ben Klayman in Chicago)

(Reporting by Karolos Grohmann; Editing by John Mehaffey)
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