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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:25 AM   #4561
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Arghhh.... London 2012 ruining Madrids chances, WC 2014 ruining Rios, and Beijing 2008 ruining Tokyos all that's left is Chicago with the strongest bid

Good Analyis I think exactly the same maybe it's time for Chicago though I am not a big fan of another US City to host the Olympic quite close to the last one but with this scenario maybe they will just pull it off for Chicago huh
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Old June 5th, 2008, 07:51 AM   #4562
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Arghhh.... London 2012 ruining Madrids chances, WC 2014 ruining Rios, and Beijing 2008 ruining Tokyos all that's left is Chicago with the strongest bid

Good Analyis I think exactly the same maybe it's time for Chicago though I am not a big fan of another US City to host the Olympic quite close to the last one but with this scenario maybe they will just pull it off for Chicago huh
And don't forget, if Mr. Obama ascends to the White House in January, he will be the biggest champion of the Chicago bid -- and his presence on the bid will weigh heavily for Chicago. Tony Blair's and Vladimir Putin's personal appearances before the IOC at Singapore and Guatemale City clinched it for London in 2006 and Sochi last year. Mr. Obama will be equally charismatic in Copenhagen next year.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #4563
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And don't forget, if Mr. Obama ascends to the White House in January, he will be the biggest champion of the Chicago bid -- and his presence on the bid will weigh heavily for Chicago. Tony Blair's and Vladimir Putin's personal appearances before the IOC at Singapore and Guatemale City clinched it for London in 2006 and Sochi last year. Mr. Obama will be equally charismatic in Copenhagen next year.
i wouldnt say having big name leaders there swung any votes...just really confirmed those by people who were "fairly sure" who they were voting for.

I certainly wouldnt go changing my decision from Paris to London just becuase Blair was there. Its the whole lobbying process.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #4564
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I really hope that Chicago gets it! Oh that would be amazing. And imagine Obama and MJ there helping to support the bid...I can't wait to find out!
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Old June 5th, 2008, 09:10 AM   #4565
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Tokyo please.

Spain had it in 1992 and I don't want 2 in a row in Europe. I would have loved to see the Olympics in South America, but Brazilian 'fans' were a disgrace at the Pan-American Games. I doubt the IOC was too impressed either. The USA hosted in 1984 and then again in 1996. 3 times in a row as representatives of this continent isn't tolerable.

Japan hasn't hosted since 1964. Give it to them.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 04:18 PM   #4566
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You still keep insisting on that
Just because half of the people there Booed the American team doesn't mean we don't deserve it.
I bet most of the people in the opening ceremony (if Rio gets it) won't be Brazilian, so I don't think that's a problem.

Still Chicagos chances is like 70% , Tokyo 15%, Rio 10% and Madrid 5% IMO
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Old June 5th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #4567
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Chicago 2016
Istanbul 2020

But its unrealistic
So
Madrid 2016
Chicago 2020
Istanbul 2024 :d
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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #4568
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just 2 cents:

4.Madrid. Why? -London 2012-proximity
3. Rio. Why? -2014 World Cup. The costs of having the 2 most expensive events it's way too high for Brasil
2. Chicago. Why? American economy, politics (Iran, N.Korea, Cuba), no significant central goverment support (unless Obama changes things as one previous poster said)

leaving.....

1. Tokyo! Which is ideal in many aspects: A stable economy, a developed country, big experience in organising sporting events, superb infrastructure, politically correct in all aspects, the safer choice in other words.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #4569
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Yes, but Atlanta had a metro area of over 1.5 mil in 1990; the capital of a state of 6,000,000; and the major city in a region of some 25 mil+ people -- all within its national borders.

Doha is about 95% of the country of Qatar. And what? 40% of the population are expats.
Actually Doha has 85% of the country's population, the metro from 2004 was about 500,000 to over 1 million in 2007, 75% are expats.

btw, i would go for Tokyo
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Old June 5th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #4570
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So Doha just lost because of the date / weather?
What's silly about that? Everyone has warned Doha about proposing olympics in October and the risk that's involved in that. There have never been olympics that late, and the weather in Doha in July/August is simply unbearable. I think the conclusion of the IOC can only be called logical.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #4571
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i really dont understand what the fuss is about. They had to knock some cities off the list...thats life
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:14 PM   #4572
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Chicago 2016
Istanbul 2020

But its unrealistic
So
Madrid 2016
Chicago 2020
Istanbul 2024 :d
If Chicago doesnt get it in 2016 then Philadelphia will likely be the bid in 2020 IMO
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:15 PM   #4573
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2. Chicago. Why? American economy, politics (Iran, N.Korea, Cuba), no significant central goverment support (unless Obama changes things as one previous poster said)
That makes no sense at all.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #4574
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What's silly about that? Everyone has warned Doha about proposing olympics in October and the risk that's involved in that. There have never been olympics that late, and the weather in Doha in July/August is simply unbearable. I think the conclusion of the IOC can only be called logical.
other cities have held it the outside dates as well, not Doha only.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #4575
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if i didnt say it a thousand times then the other said it a million

for gods sake Doha's population is 995,000 ! and the country as whole is 1,025,000

what kind of sterotype information is this ! check the bid book and the goverment fies both state that qatar is above a million and next year its etimated doha will reach a million fully.... by 2016 doha's population would be 2 million.

the IOC is so unfair, other cities hosted it in other timings and now they come and kick us out ! this is an outrage and an insult !!! what kind of racisim is this !
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If Chicago doesnt get it in 2016 then Philadelphia will likely be the bid in 2020 IMO
Nope. Much as I also wanted it for Philly, the private poll the USOC took amongst IOC members and parties that mattered in the IFs showed that Philadelphia and Houston had the least int'l appeal amongst these sports world nabobs. The poll was taken around mid-2006 when Chicago, Houston, LA, Philly and SF were the finalists for the 2016 US candidate. Which is why Philly and Houston were quickly dropped, and the other 3 advanced to the final round.

Besides, the USOC would next go for Winter 2022; and Denver and Reno-Tahoe are already gunning to be the US candidate.

If Chicago fails next year, the next US city to probably run again might be SF or NYC (if they get their frigging main stadium -- even a temporary one -- and Village plans together. Those 2 have to hand-in-hand. The IOC likes only the premier/capital cities of a country to stage their Games.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:46 PM   #4577
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its true !!! some as far as december according to somthing i read in games bids..
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if i didnt say it a thousand times then the other said it a million

for gods sake Doha's population is 995,000 ! and the country as whole is 1,025,000

what kind of sterotype information is this ! check the bid book and the goverment fies both state that qatar is above a million and next year its etimated doha will reach a million fully.... by 2016 doha's population would be 2 million.

the IOC is so unfair, other cities hosted it in other timings and now they come and kick us out ! this is an outrage and an insult !!! what kind of racisim is this !
It's NOT Racism at all. Doha's plan to stage it in October is NO longer desirable. Your argument that other cities hosted it in other timings really reduces the chances of current cities trying to use that argument.

The IOC's bread-and-butter comes from the fat TV contracts that will televise the Games. The 3 most lucrative contracts (USA, Japan and Western Europe) will only pay top dollar for those right if they occur in the July-August window. That is when the Olympics will dominate the dull TV seasons in the late summer PLUS an Olympics boradcast serves as a springboard for the upcoming season in the fall. Keep those 2 very important elements in mind.

In addition, the other sports calendars are all geared to a July-August timing of the SUmmer Games. Moving it as late as October will totally throw off those competition calendars which are this day, more or less set in stone.

In ADDITION, your country really DOESN'T yet have the critical mass to stage such a massive undertaking AND you have to accept the fact that your weather in the preferred months is really NOT kind or conducive to many outdoor sports of which 3/5ths of the sports on the Summer Olympic slate are. You and the other countries in your region will HAVE to accept that -- whether you like it or not.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #4579
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That makes no sense at all.
that's what I tought
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Old June 5th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #4580
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so your clearly saying the middle east and north africa will never host the olympics in history ?
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