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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old August 20th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #4821
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #4822
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Nothing against the US, but Kuvvaci echoes the sentiments of many people around the world. This is a global event. There are only 25 Summer Olympics every century. No nation should get them more than three times in that time span.

1904, 1932, 1984, 1996. 2016 would make it 3 of the last 9 Summer Olympics in the same country.

As much as I was appalled at the behaviour of Brazilian fans, a south American nation should land this. Rio. If not Rio, then Tokyo. It would be 52 years since Japan last had it.
completely agree...

I don't think any European country has a chance for 2016. Will Rio be candidate for sure?
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #4823
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Allow me to apologize for American Cities being ambitious in wanting to host the Olympics. But what the World fails to understand is that it is not the USAs decision to host the Olympics, it is the individual cities that decide and pay for it all. While all of Brazil is is helping Rio and all of Japan is supporting Tokyo, Only Chicago is backing up Chicago.

Basically, one of our cities does what your entire country tries to do, and we have hosted the most...right?

Go Chicago

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Old August 20th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #4824
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That's the point for me. Olympics are hosted by a city, not by a nation. It is perfectly reasonable to expect the USA to host more than other countries because they have many more cities capable of hosting than most countries. Chicago 2016 will feel different from Atlanta 1996 or LA 1984.

Conversely, I'm not sure a world cup in the USA would feel different from WC 1994 because the World Cup is a national event.

That is why I don't want to see another USA world cup any time soon, but wholeheartedly support Chicago 2016.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #4825
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completely agree...

I don't think any European country has a chance for 2016. Will Rio be candidate for sure?
The 4 cities in the poll are off. canditates for 2016
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Old August 21st, 2008, 04:25 AM   #4826
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Chicago is a completely different American city then all the others, it just has a different but better feel about it. Its the most international feeling city in America.

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Old August 21st, 2008, 04:35 AM   #4827
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Well I think Chicago would be nice. Or Rio.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 04:41 AM   #4828
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Allow me to analogize for American Cities being ambitious in wanting to host the Olympics. But what the World fails to understand is that it is not the USAs decision to host the Olympics, it is the individual cities that decide and pay for it all. While all of Brazil is is helping Rio and all of Japan is supporting Tokyo, Only Chicago is backing up Chicago.

Basically, one of our cities does what your entire country tries to do, and we have hosted the most...right?

Go Chicago
I don't think people are oblivious to this, but it's a little naive to think that US cities are winning these bids due to having so many superior bids. It is being decided by money. US networks pay more than ones from Brazil or Spain, etc. US cities are deserving, but these cities wouldn't have half the chance they do if they were located in another country.

You can bet your bottom dollar that NBC is putting immense pressure on the IOC to have a US city win the bid. To a US citizen, Chicago is diifferent than Atlanta or LA, but to the rest of us, it's still the same country. Perhaps, people in the US would see things in a new light if the Olympics kept going to China over and over and over and over and over again.

If Chicago wins, they will do a great job, but there's going to be a huge global collective groan if they are chosen to host.

PS We're no less ambitious than US cities. We just don't have as much clout with the IOC as the US does. That is the truth.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 05:45 AM   #4829
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Rio!
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Old August 21st, 2008, 07:40 AM   #4830
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All i know is Rio or Chicago, both are in or around the same time zone so i can see everything live and not just when I stay up supper late!
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Old August 21st, 2008, 08:32 AM   #4831
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i would like it to go to Madrid or Chicago, but i think Tokyo is gonna get it
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Old August 21st, 2008, 09:13 AM   #4832
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Violence and commercialism wrack Atlanta Games

On day nine of the Games a bomb exploded at Centennial Olympic Park leaving two dead and more than 100 injured

The 1996 Olympics were meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the modern Olympics. Instead, terrorism, logistical nightmares and over-the-top commercialism marred the event. What took place in the early morning hours of July 27 left a lasting memory on the Atlanta Games. For the first time in 24 years, terrorism reared its ugly head at the Olympics.

Not since the 1972 murders of 11 Israeli athletes had there been such violence at the event hailed as a symbol of world peace. On day nine of the Atlanta Olympics, a bomb exploded at Centennial Olympic Park, leaving two people dead and more than a hundred injured. Richard Jewell, a security officer at the Games, who had found the bomb, was wrongfully fingered as a suspect, and became the target of a media witch-hunt for the culprit.

Flush with money and mistakes

While lax security measures in Atlanta were not fully to blame for the bombing, the same cannot be said for the rest of the Olympic organization.

The transportation system was overcrowded and chaotic. Bus drivers — who were brought in from around the country — were not properly trained, resulting in many athletes being shuttled to the wrong venues and others showing up for their events with only minutes to spare. There were stories of buses breaking down and countless delays for athletes and media personnel.

The computer system caused further glitches. The computerized scoring system was slow in releasing results and failed frequently. In one instance, the $40-million system incorrectly awarded records to all the weightlifters in one event, including the two athletes who failed the lift.

The organizers' blunders couldn't be blamed on lack of money. Previous Olympics had enjoyed corporate funding, but Atlanta ushered in a new era. The world's largest sporting event was turned into the world's biggest marketing tool. Multinational corporations' products and logos where omnipresent throughout the Games, with Coca-Cola — whose head office is in Atlanta — leading the way.

http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/history/s...tory-1996.html
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Old August 21st, 2008, 10:05 AM   #4833
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^ and this relates to the 2016 games how?
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Old August 21st, 2008, 12:08 PM   #4834
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MGM stop trolling. I could understand a little bit in the other thread when BNK was posting lame stuff about Rio but bringing the garbage over here is not needed IMO.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 02:31 PM   #4835
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Violence and commercialism wrack Atlanta Games

On day nine of the Games a bomb exploded at Centennial Olympic Park leaving two dead and more than 100 injured

The 1996 Olympics were meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the modern Olympics. Instead, terrorism, logistical nightmares and over-the-top commercialism marred the event. What took place in the early morning hours of July 27 left a lasting memory on the Atlanta Games. For the first time in 24 years, terrorism reared its ugly head at the Olympics.

Not since the 1972 murders of 11 Israeli athletes had there been such violence at the event hailed as a symbol of world peace. On day nine of the Atlanta Olympics, a bomb exploded at Centennial Olympic Park, leaving two people dead and more than a hundred injured. Richard Jewell, a security officer at the Games, who had found the bomb, was wrongfully fingered as a suspect, and became the target of a media witch-hunt for the culprit.

Flush with money and mistakes

While lax security measures in Atlanta were not fully to blame for the bombing, the same cannot be said for the rest of the Olympic organization.

The transportation system was overcrowded and chaotic. Bus drivers — who were brought in from around the country — were not properly trained, resulting in many athletes being shuttled to the wrong venues and others showing up for their events with only minutes to spare. There were stories of buses breaking down and countless delays for athletes and media personnel.

The computer system caused further glitches. The computerized scoring system was slow in releasing results and failed frequently. In one instance, the $40-million system incorrectly awarded records to all the weightlifters in one event, including the two athletes who failed the lift.

The organizers' blunders couldn't be blamed on lack of money. Previous Olympics had enjoyed corporate funding, but Atlanta ushered in a new era. The world's largest sporting event was turned into the world's biggest marketing tool. Multinational corporations' products and logos where omnipresent throughout the Games, with Coca-Cola — whose head office is in Atlanta — leading the way.

http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/history/s...tory-1996.html
Ι wouldn't like to see any olympics in USA again soon. There are many countries which are more capable and waiting to host the event. I believe the memories from Atlanta 1996 will be one of the reasons that the IOC members will vote for any other country.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 05:23 PM   #4836
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Just bringing information for the discussion about Atlanta. No intention of trolling.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 05:32 PM   #4837
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To be fair terrorism can happen anywhere. One sad incident should not affect any bid by a US city and hopefully it will just be chosen or not on the merit of the bid.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 06:17 PM   #4838
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Tokyo for the win
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Old August 21st, 2008, 06:58 PM   #4839
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Allow me to apologize for American Cities being ambitious in wanting to host the Olympics. But what the World fails to understand is that it is not the USAs decision to host the Olympics, it is the individual cities that decide and pay for it all. While all of Brazil is is helping Rio and all of Japan is supporting Tokyo, Only Chicago is backing up Chicago.

Basically, one of our cities does what your entire country tries to do, and we have hosted the most...right?

Go Chicago
Doesn't American Olympic Commitee decide?
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Old August 21st, 2008, 07:33 PM   #4840
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Just bringing information for the discussion about Atlanta. No intention of trolling.

Atlanta has nothing to do with Chicago as Atlanta had little to do with Los Angeles. Likewise 2016 has little to do with 1996.

I have been to both Atlanta's and Rio (loved Rio). If you want to make relevant the traffic infrastructure problems in Atlanta be brave enough to talk about the one's in Rio. The traffic in Rio is by far the most worse then traffic in Atlanta or dare say anywhere in the U.S. Also unfortunately for Rio due to its geography it isn't exactly easily to plop down transit lines throughout the city to alleviate the problem.

I remember me and my girlfriend ready to pull our hair out when it took over an hour to just get around the Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoon which couldn't have been more then a few Kilometers.
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