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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:05 PM   #4921
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+ In 2016, Brazil will be the 5th economy in the world.
Well, you haven't taken into account that you/Brazil MAY go into a negative territory or deficit balance come 2015 due to the cost of staging the 2014 World Cup. The IOC, especially after the humungous costs of Beijing 2008, are mindful of the costs of these extravaganzas.

Remember, UNTIL pushed by others, your President Lula initially did NOT want to take on the responsibility of the 2014 World Cup. Or have we forgotten already?
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #4922
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Well, you haven't taken into account that you/Brazil MAY go into a negative territory or deficit balance come 2015 due to the cost of staging the 2014 World Cup. The IOC, especially after the humungous costs of Beijing 2008, are mindful of the costs of these extravaganzas.

Remember, UNTIL pushed by others, your President Lula initially did NOT want to take on the responsibility of the 2014 World Cup. Or have we forgotten already?
Chinese stravaganza had a purpose: an autoritarian government wanted to show the world their power and nonsense... building dazzling venues which would never had been done anywhere in the world but China, because no other country has cheap workers avaliable to die [2500 losts every year].

Any other city from now would not go trough stravaganza, even London, neither Rio or Chicago. Plus Brazil have no intention to show to the world what the chinese wanted.

MORE: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7583948.story

This information about president Lula's yesterday's preferences doesn't mean anything. The FACT is: Brazil will make the WC and is hardworking to get the OG. A lot of decisions aren't necessarily taken by the president's mind, in any country of the world. That's why they have ministers.

MORE: http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,5270859.story

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Old August 28th, 2008, 06:07 AM   #4923
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Mexico City 1968 Olympics
Mexico 1970 World Cup

Munich 1972 Olympics
West Germany 1974 World Cup

USA 1994 World Cup
Atlanta 1996 Olympics
This is how you own and shut a thread down.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #4924
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I would love to have it for Chicago but in terms of presentation, culture and the will, Rio de Janeiro definitely deserve it and I voted for the city. Just imagine of the term "CARNAVAL". That will be totally amazing! Plus, that will help the city definitely if its chosen. Imagine clering up all those criminals and gangs.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #4925
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This is how you own and shut a thread down.

No one is saying it hasnt been done, I think jetfrog was talking about $afforability$.

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Old August 29th, 2008, 03:32 AM   #4926
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What China showed the world is that it is an economic power, and that hundreds of millions of people have experienced substantial improvement in living standards. This is why all the china-bashers are so angry and are now dismissing all the achievements that the Chinese have made. They are jealous of China's success in economic growth, in the Olympics and in the continuous building of impressive infrastructures that are benefitting all the Chinese people. The bashers are only using the so-called democracy issue as an excuse to bash the Chinese people.

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Old August 29th, 2008, 05:42 AM   #4927
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No one is saying it hasnt been down, I think jetfrog was talking about $afforability$.
I see. But I look at that comment as going out to people in general who says that a nation cannot host the World Cup and the Olympics so very close to each other.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 06:32 AM   #4928
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What China showed the world that it is an economic power, and that hundreds of millions of people have experienced substantial improvement in living standards. This is why all the china-bashers are so angry and are now dismissing all the achievements that the Chinese have made. They are jealous of China's success in economic growth, in the Olympics and in the continuous building of impressive infrastructures that are benefitting all the Chinese people. The bashers are only using the so-called democracy issue as an excuse to bash the Chinese people.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 09:10 AM   #4929
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What China showed the world is that it is an economic power, and that hundreds of millions of people have experienced substantial improvement in living standards. This is why all the china-bashers are so angry and are now dismissing all the achievements that the Chinese have made. They are jealous of China's success in economic growth, in the Olympics and in the continuous building of impressive infrastructures that are benefitting all the Chinese people. The bashers are only using the so-called democracy issue as an excuse to bash the Chinese people.
No one is jealous of China's economic growth or its people. What people have issue with are the actions and policies of "The People's" government. The Olympics showed two things:

- The Chinese people are warm(we know this already, so get over it)
- The Chinese government can spend a lot of money no matter what the cost.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 10:15 AM   #4930
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No one is jealous of China's economic growth or its people. What people have issue with are the actions and policies of "The People's" government. The Olympics showed two things:

- The Chinese people are warm(we know this already, so get over it)
- The Chinese government can spend a lot of money no matter what the cost.
You got it all wrong here. Foreign opinion is irrelevant with regard to China. According to the Pew Research Center, most Chinese people support the general direction of development of China. They are taking advantage of the stability of their country to develop their economy. That's why their living standards are improving rapidly.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #4931
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Old September 15th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #4932
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After the disgraceful photos of the Spanish Team, they have showed that they are racists and hate mongerers in sport and have no chance at hosting an Olympics that involves people from all races and ethnicities across the world. It must not go to Madrid unless the foundry of hate is to once again manufacture injustice and terror.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 02:40 PM   #4933
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Old September 19th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #4934
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Old October 27th, 2008, 05:02 PM   #4935
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Dunno if this has already been posted here, sorry if so:

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Old October 27th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #4936
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Yes, but Atlanta had a metro area of over 1.5 mil in 1990; the capital of a state of 6,000,000; and the major city in a region of some 25 mil+ people -- all within its national borders.
Leipzig isn't far off this numbers but was considered too small. I rather suspect they didn't bribe enough.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 06:45 AM   #4937
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Leipzig isn't far off this numbers but was considered too small. I rather suspect they didn't bribe enough.
atlanta's metro at the time of the 1996 olympics had about 4.5 mil. Now the metro is almost 5.5 mil.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 06:51 AM   #4938
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Right now with the world wide economy the way it is Tokyo has the best shot. The Yen is the highest currency at the moment. But mind you these are today's economic conditions. No telling what the future beholds.
It'll either go to Tokyo or Chicago. I really want it to go to Tokyo even though I voted for Chicago. I knew I had voted too early.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #4939
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Old October 28th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #4940
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Right now with the world wide economy the way it is Tokyo has the best shot. The Yen is the highest currency at the moment. But mind you these are today's economic conditions. No telling what the future beholds.
It'll either go to Tokyo or Chicago. I really want it to go to Tokyo even though I voted for Chicago. I knew I had voted too early.
I think Madrid presents the safest bid. High number of existing venues, world class transport system, and great revenue potential. The attention to detail and know how puts madrid ahead in my evaluation.
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