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London, UK 280 25.23%
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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:42 AM   #5121
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I always wonder if people actually read the Candidature File.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:34 PM   #5122
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Well, Rio surely won't be the best of the cities in terms of infrastructure, etc...
But, for the ones who comes to the olympic, it will be the most fun city from the 4 ones..
Years of experience with parties such as Carnaval and happy people will make u love it, even if you wake up on the floor after drinking too much.

Just a joke, seriously, the Cariocas knows how to make a big event, if Rio wins, and if you go to Rio, you won't regret.

If Rio doesn't win, i hope it goes for Chicago or Tokyo.
Athletes don't go to the Olympics to have fun , well at least they shouldn't . They expect to find great venues, security and nice accomodation.

Of course , they are all young and after competing they will celebrate on clubs or wherever, but all those four cities can provide this kind of fun. Rio probably is the best-looking city in this final , but to get those Games, its natural settings won't be enough.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #5123
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Rio has everything its takes
But its ok if its in Madrid or Tokio

CHIcago ok.. but i personally would not like the olympics there ! The world has more to offer than what we already know
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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:15 PM   #5124
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But it helps
As we know (i m sure u know that, maybe u dont like it)
Rio Tokiio Chicaco and Madrid are able to offer everthing u said, one can offer more of one or another, but yeah, they all can.

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Athletes don't go to the Olympics to have fun , well at least they shouldn't . They expect to find great venues, security and nice accomodation.

Of course , they are all young and after competing they will celebrate on clubs or wherever, but all those four cities can provide this kind of fun. Rio probably is the best-looking city in this final , but to get those Games, its natural settings won't be enough.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #5125
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Brazilian bid organizers said their budget figure, despite its much higher cost, is more realistic and offers security and risk-free funding at a time of global economic crisis.

"Even in the current difficult global economic climate, we can guarantee that funding for Rio 2016 is secure and that the Brazilian economy is stable," Brazilian government leaders said in a letter in the bid book. "Already the 10th largest economy in the world and forecast to be the fifth by 2016, Brazil will be able to support all projected Games requirements."

"In this Olympic race, Rio is Obama," Osorio said. "We are saying, 'Yes we can.' We are talking about change, about hope. Rio can rejuvenate the Games."

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Rio may be Obama in some weird metaphorical way, but Chicago has Obama.

If I were Rio, I'd think of a different strategy.
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Athletes don't go to the Olympics to have fun , well at least they shouldn't . They expect to find great venues, security and nice accomodation.

Of course , they are all young and after competing they will celebrate on clubs or wherever, but all those four cities can provide this kind of fun. Rio probably is the best-looking city in this final , but to get those Games, its natural settings won't be enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if, for some IOC members, it comes down to where they want to spend the summer of 2016 in. Never mind technicalities.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 07:22 PM   #5128
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Rio has much more to offer than a simple summer 2016.
Have you ever been there?
Try one day....... u ll be amazed just like me.


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I wouldn't be surprised if, for some IOC members, it comes down to where they want to spend the summer of 2016 in. Never mind technicalities.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 07:43 PM   #5129
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Rio has much more to offer than a simple summer 2016.
Have you ever been there?
Try one day....... u ll be amazed just like me.
That wasn't my point; I wasn't stating my own opinion of Rio.

My point was that 2016 will be decided by 100 or so IOC members, each putting substantial weight on different things based on their own preferences and perceptions.

In this race, whichever city wins won't win for one single, solid reason. It will be a variety of variables (like perhaps where a few torn and undecided members want to spend their summer, who knows?) that will play out and affect the final decision.

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Brazilian bid organizers said their budget figure, despite its much higher cost, is more realistic and offers security and risk-free funding at a time of global economic crisis.

"Even in the current difficult global economic climate, we can guarantee that funding for Rio 2016 is secure and that the Brazilian economy is stable," Brazilian government leaders said in a letter in the bid book. "Already the 10th largest economy in the world and forecast to be the fifth by 2016, Brazil will be able to support all projected Games requirements."

"In this Olympic race, Rio is Obama," Osorio said. "We are saying, 'Yes we can.' We are talking about change, about hope. Rio can rejuvenate the Games."

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Rio has much more to offer than a simple summer 2016.
Have you ever been there?
Try one day....... u ll be amazed just like me.
Yes!
We are talking about change, about hope

Go Rio!
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I understand u m8 everybody has the right to have ur own opinion, and thats what makes the world ..

i just think that the ioc members should know all the cities better, besides the stereotypes, do u undestand me

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That wasn't my point; I wasn't stating my own opinion of Rio.

My point was that 2016 will be decided by 100 or so IOC members, each putting substantial weight on different things based on their own preferences and perceptions.

In this race, whichever city wins won't win for one single, solid reason. It will be a variety of variables (like perhaps where a few torn and undecided members want to spend their summer, who knows?) that will play out and affect the final decision.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 08:36 PM   #5133
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That wasn't my point; I wasn't stating my own opinion of Rio.

My point was that 2016 will be decided by 100 or so IOC members, each putting substantial weight on different things based on their own preferences and perceptions.

In this race, whichever city wins won't win for one single, solid reason. It will be a variety of variables (like perhaps where a few torn and undecided members want to spend their summer, who knows?) that will play out and affect the final decision.
If IOC members were so irresponsible as you say, many more not developed cities would have hosted the Games , and that's not the case . But I would agree that financial reasons are among the most important factors that they take consideration when they vote, and that's why when an U.S city bids, is always respected.

The ideal bid city has to offer many things : be appealing , good infrastructure, very good hotels and show to the IOC members that's trustable enough to get the Games. And of course, be profitable.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #5134
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If IOC members were so irresponsible as you say, many more not developed cities would have hosted the Games , and that's not the case . But I would agree that financial reasons are among the most important factors that they take consideration when they vote, and that's why when an U.S city bids, is always respected.

The ideal bid city has to offer many things : be appealing , good infrastructure, very good hotels and show to the IOC members that's trustable enough to get the Games. And of course, be profitable.
No, I'd think that argument might actually favor developing countries, but it was really just a thought. And I'm not sure if I'd call it irresponsibility.

In theory, all this cities can host sufficiently as they have all been short-listed. It’s fair game for your vote to be based on intangibles, if you do think the choices are all technically capable of hosting.

Afterall, it's not just finished venues and efficient transportation systems that make the Olympic Games memorable or a success.
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RIO DE JANEIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In the project of Rio, a paradisiacal beach is reserved for the athletes.
It is the "Reserve Beach". One of the most paradisiacal places in the city. Frequented by artists, gays... a nude beach. It is a deserted beach in the ecological reserve of Barra da Tijuca:

Is in front of the Olympic Village:


Picture of the place


Picture of the place - 2


Wonder for 2016!
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Athletes don't go to the Olympics to have fun , well at least they shouldn't . They expect to find great venues, security and nice accomodation.

Of course , they are all young and after competing they will celebrate on clubs or wherever, but all those four cities can provide this kind of fun. Rio probably is the best-looking city in this final , but to get those Games, its natural settings won't be enough.
I didn't mean the athletes, they are not the only one who comes to the olympics.
I meant about tourists.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #5138
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Natural Landscape of Chicago along one of the largest Lakes in the world and the Architechture of Chicago.

Rio 0 (Sugar Loaf? Its a big rock with a statue on it....wow) Chicago 2
Yeah mate, that's right... keep fighting ignorance with ignorance.

Now, about the ones who are SERIOUSLY arguing, despite the obvious trolling: it's evident that Rio would need a hell lot more of investments than the other bidding cities, that's more than evident! But, it's important to point out that, by 2016, Brazil will have more than enough time to solve it's infrastructure situation, and the WC will help improve severely this diferential aspects that the OG would require to be executed. Honestly, that would almost emerge as a natural thing, specially since Brazil is an emerging market with lots of space to grow in the coming years, and WILL require this kind of investiments, one way or the other.

The thing is: do you want another Beijing?? Games which were technically flawless, but nevertheless (with the exception of athletics and swimming), boring til' death? Or do you want a celebration of life and sport in one of the most beautiful scenarios of the world!?

I know, I'm probably biased here, but you have to see for yourself to believe it, and like the slogan says, live your passion!

And I didn't even began to talk about the legacy...
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Yeah mate, that's right... keep fighting ignorance with ignorance.

Now, about the ones who are SERIOUSLY arguing, despite the obvious trolling: it's evident that Rio would need a hell lot more of investments than the other bidding cities, that's more than evident! But, it's important to point out that, by 2016, Brazil will have more than enough time to solve it's infrastructure situation, and the WC will help improve severely this diferential aspects that the OG would require to be executed. Honestly, that would almost emerge as a natural thing, specially since Brazil is an emerging market with lots of space to grow in the coming years, and WILL require this kind of investiments, one way or the other.

The thing is: do you want another Beijing?? Games which were technically flawless, but nevertheless (with the exception of athletics and swimming), boring til' death? Or do you want a celebration of life and sport in one of the most beautiful scenarios of the world!?

I know, I'm probably biased here, but you have to see for yourself to believe it, and like the slogan says, live your passion!

And I didn't even began to talk about the legacy...
You talk about ignorance? Your whole post was filled with ignorance. Oh, i guess the only city that could possibly pull off a decent 2016 Olympics is Rio. Bull.

And you want to talk about trolling? Why dont you read what some of the Rio supporters posted?
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