daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Stadiums and Sport Arenas

Stadiums and Sport Arenas » Completed | Under Construction | Proposed | Demolished



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
Voters: 1110. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools
Old August 20th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #5281
1772
Registered User
 
1772's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,573
Likes (Received): 1439

Quote:
Originally Posted by backupcoolm4n
Chicago has never hosted the olympics nor an event this huge, President Obama is from there and it is the third most populous US city, it deserves this, plus it is a leading environmentally friendly city
Why is this relevant?
Not that I wouldn't want to see Chicago host it.
1772 no está en línea  

Sponsored Links
Old August 20th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #5282
nomarandlee
My Mind Has Left My Body
 
nomarandlee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 1060 W. Addison, City by the Lake
Posts: 7,209
Likes (Received): 2761

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1772 View Post
Why is this relevant?
Not that I wouldn't want to see Chicago host it.
Because the optics of watching a President walk from his home literally a few blocks away into the Olympic stadium has a certain appeal for some.
__________________
Stephane Charbonnier, “I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.”
nomarandlee no está en línea  
Old August 20th, 2009, 09:26 PM   #5283
Cauê
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Terra
Posts: 12,153
Likes (Received): 4158

Quote:
Originally Posted by TEBC View Post
Rio 2016 Gains Momentum
Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:05am EDT GB Staff
Font size:

A source close to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) told AFP Thursday that Rio de Janeiro's bid for the 2016 Summer Olympic Games is gathering momentum, while Chicago 2016 is losing ground equally fast and alienating many IOC member previous favourable to them, largely due to gaffes by the United States Olympic Committee (USOC).
AFP reports Tokyo and Madrid still have a chance but have much ground to make up before the IOC vote in Copenhagen October 2.

According to AFP, Rio has made huge advances ever since IOC member Carlos Nuzman made a "passionate and effective" presentation to the European Olympic Committee in Istanbul last November. Aided to a large part by Brazilian president Luis Ignacio Lula da Silva, they have built on that steadily and, reports AFP, with apparently a vibrant economy and the funds in place they are ready to meet all the requirements of the IOC.

The source said there were other factors in Rio's favour. "Jacques Rogge leaves office in 2013 and what he really wants to leave is a legacy. He was in charge when Beijing hosted a really successful Games despite universal scepticism beforehand and he pushed through the World Youth Olympics, which many believe will not be a success. What better legacy to leave than seeing South America win the right to host the Games for the first time on your watch", said the source.

As for the high level of crime and the fact that the 2007 Pan American Games (in Rio) were widely believed by IOC members, who were present, to be chaotic and disorganized, the source said, "they want to talk about crime, well the (football) World Cup is in South Africa next and it is not exactly renowned for its peaceful streets".

But the source conceded that Tokyo had many things going for it, its compactness, financial guarantees that stood up to inspection, and a genuinely sound infrastructure in place, but there was on drawback. "it is simply too soon after Beijing".
http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/olympic...216134604.html
Go Rio!!!

__________________
A classe média brasileira, em geral, é tonta e histérica.
Acredita, sem critério, em tudo o que lê. Assina Veja e banca o poser com O Globo nas mãos.
Está na hora de a PUC reformular sua investigação sobre o anti-jornalismo da Veja & Cia e focar na falha cognitiva da classe média.
Cauê no está en línea  
Old August 21st, 2009, 02:52 AM   #5284
koolio
Registered User
 
koolio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,107
Likes (Received): 1558

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord David View Post
^ How odd, on account your avatar, if I'm not mistaken is from the movie Brazil! Rio should win! Then Chicago, if the IOC believes now isn't, though it very much is, time for Rio.
I loved the movie Brazil ... just don't think they would be a better host than Chicago or Tokyo (although my personal preference is Tokyo).
koolio no está en línea  
Old August 21st, 2009, 05:35 AM   #5285
Wey
Recursive
 
Wey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: São Paulo/Uberlândia
Posts: 11,170
Likes (Received): 1593

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomarandlee View Post
Because the optics of watching a President walk from his home literally a few blocks away into the Olympic stadium has a certain appeal for some.
How odd, I thought the president lived in DC...
__________________
1 ∀x∀y[∀z(z∈x⇔z∈y)⇒x=y] ____2 ∀x[∃a(a∈x)⇒∃y(y∈x∧¬∃z(z∈y∧z∈x))] ____3 ∀x∀w_1∀w_2...∀w_n∃y∀x[x∈y⇔(x∈z∧∅)]
4 ∀x∀y∃z(x∈z∧y∈z) ____5 ∀F∃A∀Y∀x[(x∈Y∧Y∈F)⇒x∈A] ____6 ∀x∀w_1∀w_2...∀w_n[∀x(x∈A⇒∃!y∅)⇒∃B∀x(x∈A⇒∃y(y∈B∧∅))]
7 ∃X[∅∈X∧∀y(y∈X⇒S(y)∈X)] ____8 ∀x∃Q(x)∀z[z⊆x⇒z∈Q(x)] ____9 ∀X∃R(R well-orders X)
10 V=ULTIMATE L
Wey no está en línea  
Old August 21st, 2009, 06:50 AM   #5286
nomarandlee
My Mind Has Left My Body
 
nomarandlee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 1060 W. Addison, City by the Lake
Posts: 7,209
Likes (Received): 2761

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wey View Post
How odd, I thought the president lived in DC...
That's just his temporary guest worker home. His REAL home is on the south side of Chicago blocks from the Olympic stadium.
__________________
Stephane Charbonnier, “I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.”
nomarandlee no está en línea  
Old August 21st, 2009, 11:52 PM   #5287
rsol2000
Registered User
 
rsol2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Nova Friburgo/RJ
Posts: 6,860
Likes (Received): 8688

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/inde...howtopic=14768

Price Nawaf Faisal Fahd Abdulaziz - Saudi Arabia - Chicago
Tamas Ajan - Hungary - Chicago
Prince Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah - Kuwait - Chicago
Princess Haya Bint Al Hussein - UAE - Tokyo
Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani - Qatar - Chicago
Prince Albert II - Monaco - Rio de Janeiro
Shahid Ali - Pakistan - Chicago
Beatrice Allen - Gambia - Chicago
Thomas Bach - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Patrick Baumann - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Fernando Bello - Portugal - Rio de Janeiro
Sepp Blatter - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Claudia Bokel - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Valeri Borzov - Ukraine - Rio de Janeiro
Andres Botero Philippsbourne - Colombia - Chicago
Els van Breda Vriesman - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Ukraine - Sergey bubka - Rio de Janeiro
Franco Carraro - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Richard Carrion - Puerto Rico - Chicago
Patrick Chamunda - Zambia - Chicago
Chang Ung - Korea DPR - Madrid
Ottavio Cinguanta - Italy - Madrid
John Bowling Coastes - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Philip Coles - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Sir Philip Craven - Great Britain - Chicago
Manuela Di Centa - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Lamine Diack - Senegal - Madrid
Alpha Ibrahim Diallo - Madrid
Ivan Dibos - Peru - Rio de Janeiro
Guy Drut - France - Madrid
Hicham El Guerrouj - Morocco - Madrid
Nawal El Moutawakei - Morocco - Rio de Janeiro
Fransisco Elizalde - Philippines - Chicago
Rania Elwani - Egypt - Chicago
Ugur Erdener - Turkey - Rio de Janeiro
Rene Fasel - Switzerland - Madrid
Timothy Fok - Hong Kong - Tokyo
Frankie Fredericks - Namibia - Chicago
Anton Geesink - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Alex Gilady - Israel - Chicago
Reynaldo Gonzalez Lopez - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Kevan Gosper - Australia - Chicago
Issa Hayatou - Cameroon - Chicago
Ke Zhenliang - PR China - Rio de Janeiro
Gerhard Heiberg - Norway - Madrid
Henri, Grad Duke of Luxembourg - Luxembourgh - Madrid
Patrick Hickey - Ireland (the real one) - Chicago
Nicole L.M. Hoevertsz - Aruba - Chicago
Prince Tunku Imran - Malaysia - Tokyo
Willi Kaltschmitt Lujan - Guatemala - Rio de Janeiro
Gian-Franco Kasper - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Nat Indrapana - land - Tokyo
Kipchoge Keino - Kenya - Chicago
Toni Khoury - Lebanon - Tokyo
Jean-Calude Killy - France - Madrid
Saku Koivu - Finland - Chicago
Mustapha Larfaoui - Algeria - Rio de Janeiro
Lee Jun-Hee - Korea Republic - Madrid
Princess Nora - Liechtenstein - Madrid
Gunulla Lindberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Arne Ljungqvist - Sweden - Madrid
Julio Cesar Maglione - Rio de Janeiro
Robin Mitchell - Fiji - Tokyo
Dae Sung Moon - Kore Republic - Rio de Janeiro
Samin Moudallal - Syria - Rio de Janeiro
Mohammed Mzali - Tunisia - Rio de Janeiro
Ng Ser Miang - Singapore - Tokyo
Lambis Nikolau - Greece - Chicago
Francis Nyangweso - Uganda - Chicago
Will-Alexander, Prince of Orange - Netherlands - Madrid
Denis Oswald - Switzerland - Madrid
Lassana Palenfo - Cote d'Ivoire - Chicago
Mario Pescante - Italy - Madrid
Aleksandr Popov - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Dick Pound - Canada - Tokyo
Sam Ramsamy - South Africa - Chicago
Sir Craig Reedie - Great Britain - Chicago
Francesco Ricci Bitti - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Anne, Princess Royal - Great Britain - Chicago
Yumilka Ruiz Luaces - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Mounir Sabet - Egypt - Rio de Janeiro
Meliton Sanchez Rivas - Panama - Chicago
Pal Schmitt - Hungary - Madrid
Rebecca Scott - Canada - Chicago
Austin Sealy - Barbados - Chicago
Randhir Signh - India - Tokyo
Vitali Smirnov - Russia - Madrid
Rita Subowo - Indonesia - Tokyo
Irena Szewinska - Poland - Rio de Janeiro
Peter Taliberg - Finland - Madrid
Shamil Tarpishchev - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Walther Troger - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Mario Vazques Rana - Mexico - Madrid
Olegario Vazquez Rana - Mexico - Madrid
Antun Vrdoljak - Croatia - Rio de Janeiro
Leo Wallner - Austria - Rio de Janeiro
Pernilla Wiberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Wu Ching-Kou - Chinese Taipei - Tokyo
yu Zaiqing - PR China - Rio de Janeiro
Kan Zelezny - Czech Republic - Rio de Janeiro

So after Round One

Rio de Janeiro - 39
Chicago - 29
Madrid - 21
Tokyo - 11

I used geopolitics, the IOC member themselves, the date they joined the IOC, whether they were a former athlete and guess work to assign a city. I am actually interested in seeing how close my first round is to the actual first round. I am guessing it will be spot on on the order.

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/inde...howtopic=14768
rsol2000 no está en línea  
Old August 22nd, 2009, 05:58 AM   #5288
Wey
Recursive
 
Wey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: São Paulo/Uberlândia
Posts: 11,170
Likes (Received): 1593

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomarandlee View Post
That's just his temporary guest worker home. His REAL home is on the south side of Chicago blocks from the Olympic stadium.
Please! By then he'll have completely lost his appeal...
__________________
1 ∀x∀y[∀z(z∈x⇔z∈y)⇒x=y] ____2 ∀x[∃a(a∈x)⇒∃y(y∈x∧¬∃z(z∈y∧z∈x))] ____3 ∀x∀w_1∀w_2...∀w_n∃y∀x[x∈y⇔(x∈z∧∅)]
4 ∀x∀y∃z(x∈z∧y∈z) ____5 ∀F∃A∀Y∀x[(x∈Y∧Y∈F)⇒x∈A] ____6 ∀x∀w_1∀w_2...∀w_n[∀x(x∈A⇒∃!y∅)⇒∃B∀x(x∈A⇒∃y(y∈B∧∅))]
7 ∃X[∅∈X∧∀y(y∈X⇒S(y)∈X)] ____8 ∀x∃Q(x)∀z[z⊆x⇒z∈Q(x)] ____9 ∀X∃R(R well-orders X)
10 V=ULTIMATE L
Wey no está en línea  
Old August 22nd, 2009, 01:22 PM   #5289
RobH
Registered User
 
RobH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London-ish
Posts: 12,774
Likes (Received): 10332

Wey, that's not the issue though.

The issue is, will he have lost his appeal by October 2nd when the vote takes place? I don't think so! I think he could very well do for Chicago 2016 what Blair did for London 2012 and what Putin did for Sochi 2014. Anyone who thinks this isn't possible has their head in the sand. Obama, if he goes to Copehhagen, will have a definite influence; the question is how big it'll be and whether it'll be enough to push Chicago over the line first.
RobH no está en línea  
Old August 22nd, 2009, 01:33 PM   #5290
Lord David
Registered User
 
Lord David's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,785
Likes (Received): 104

All you need is Presidente Obama to go to Copenhagen when the voting takes place and lobby in person. Have him speak about the town he's called home for so many years, being Senator of the state of Illinois and most importantly, gibber a paragraph or so in French!

Tout his ability to command (err read) languages by speaking in English, then French, Spanish, Portuguese and finally, a little bit of Japanese! That'll win the IOC over.

A little Arabic, Azerbaijani and Czech is a bonus! :P
Lord David no está en línea  
Old August 22nd, 2009, 03:24 PM   #5291
swifty78
Registered User
 
swifty78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,465
Likes (Received): 549

interesting... but id still like it to go to Rio
swifty78 no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 09:56 AM   #5292
corredor06
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Panama City
Posts: 968
Likes (Received): 31

when do they decide the winner?
corredor06 no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 10:14 AM   #5293
Severiano
Registered User
 
Severiano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 1,522
Likes (Received): 756

At first, I thought Chicago was a shoo in. But now I am leaning toward Rio. I think the bids are equal as far as venues go. And Rio is a world class city with some of the most beautiful surroundings in the world
Severiano no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 11:42 AM   #5294
DimitriB
Registered User
 
DimitriB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Antwerp
Posts: 548
Likes (Received): 76

I hope there will be more candidates.
At the moment Rio is my favourite, but I have some doubts.
Brazil gets WC in 2014, and to major events in a short time, can cost them votes.
Madrid doesn't get it, I think, because London 2012 is on the same continent.
Chicago has a good bid, and Tokyo has got already the Olympics.

I hope Buenos Aires will place a bid, it will improve many sports in Argentina
DimitriB no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:55 PM   #5295
RobH
Registered User
 
RobH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London-ish
Posts: 12,774
Likes (Received): 10332

Well, there won't be any more candidates for 2016, the vote is in a month's time.
RobH no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 02:02 PM   #5296
Lord David
Registered User
 
Lord David's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,785
Likes (Received): 104

Quote:
Originally Posted by DimitriB View Post
I hope there will be more candidates.
At the moment Rio is my favourite, but I have some doubts.
Brazil gets WC in 2014, and to major events in a short time, can cost them votes.
Madrid doesn't get it, I think, because London 2012 is on the same continent.
Chicago has a good bid, and Tokyo has got already the Olympics.

I hope Buenos Aires will place a bid, it will improve many sports in Argentina
There's no more candidates, the Candidature phase is well underway. There were only 7 bidding cities during the applicant phase. 4 of which went to the Candidature phase.

Brazil WC 2014 doesn't hurt Rio's 2016 Olympic bid. Note how the US had 94 WC and Atlanta got 1996. Stadium upgrades and infrastructure upgrades for the WC will assist in cities hosting preliminary matches during the Olympics. It won't cost them votes, it will only cost them votes if the majority of the IOC thinks Rio isn't ready.

Had there been more applicants, there may have been a part 1 candidate phase and part 2, like what happened in the 2004 bid race.

RobH is correct, the vote is coming soon.

Last edited by Lord David; August 23rd, 2009 at 02:07 PM.
Lord David no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 07:40 PM   #5297
MGM
Registered User
 
MGM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 159
Likes (Received): 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord David View Post
There's no more candidates, the Candidature phase is well underway. There were only 7 bidding cities during the applicant phase. 4 of which went to the Candidature phase.

Brazil WC 2014 doesn't hurt Rio's 2016 Olympic bid. Note how the US had 94 WC and Atlanta got 1996. Stadium upgrades and infrastructure upgrades for the WC will assist in cities hosting preliminary matches during the Olympics. It won't cost them votes, it will only cost them votes if the majority of the IOC thinks Rio isn't ready.

Had there been more applicants, there may have been a part 1 candidate phase and part 2, like what happened in the 2004 bid race.

RobH is correct, the vote is coming soon.
ALSO REMEMBER:

1968 MEXICO CITY O.G.
1970 MEXICO W.C.

1972 MUNICH O.G.
1974 WEST GERMANY W.C.
MGM no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 08:19 PM   #5298
ReiAyanami
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,367
Likes (Received): 66

I guess, after the round one results, that Rio gets a big headstart. If those who voted for Madrid go for Rio too, then Rio has the best chances for the winning bid
ReiAyanami no está en línea  
Old August 23rd, 2009, 08:22 PM   #5299
SIC
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 290
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Severiano View Post
At first, I thought Chicago was a shoo in. But now I am leaning toward Rio. I think the bids are equal as far as venues go. And Rio is a world class city with some of the most beautiful surroundings in the world
Yeah, but Chicago's bid is way more compact. The main venues are all 15 minutes away from the Olympic village. Maybe less if they have dedicated routes for them.
SIC no está en línea  
Old August 24th, 2009, 07:17 AM   #5300
rafamlopes
BANNED
 
rafamlopes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,949
Likes (Received): 8

As a brazilian citizen I would like Rio to host it, but I have do admit that Chicago and Tokyo are more prepared to host the 2016 games. It will be very hard to decide...but I think all 4 candidates would host amazing games, in a very different and unique way.
rafamlopes no está en línea  


Closed Thread

Tags
chicago, madrid 2016, olympic games 2016, rio 2016, spain in the world, tokyo 2016

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu