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Old September 2nd, 2009, 07:21 PM   #5361
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WELL, ON THE REPORTS OF .... ALL CITIES RIO DE JANEIRO HAD THE BIGGEST AND CONSIDERED FOR ALL THE BEST OPTION FOR GAMES AND WHAT HAD THE CRITICISM, MAY BE IMPROVED AND HAS A MORE GUARANTEES ALL OTHER CITIES ... . CHEERS WERE MORE THAN ANY OTHER CITY ....

THE SUMMARY BELOW THIS CHECK WHETHER :

RIO DE JANEIRO
The Rio de Janeiro 2016 bid is centred on the vision of
using sport as a catalyst for social integration and the
Games for “celebration and transformation” of the city, the
region and the country.
The bid is driven by the Brazilian Government and Rio
2016’s vision incorporates the government’s plans for
improved social integration through investment in sports
programmes involving social inclusion through sport and
leisure, elite sports training, expansion of infrastructure,
the promotion of major events and its commitment to bring
the Games to South America.
A Rio 2016 Games aims to showcase Brazil’s and Rio’s
capabilities, social and economic development and natural
features.
The 2016 venue plan would be closely aligned with general
development plans and the social needs of the city. The
Games would act as a vehicle for new facilities, transport and
other infrastructure and physical regeneration, particularly of
the city’s waterways and key development zones of the city.
As such, the Federal Government considers the investment
required for infrastructure to be worthwhile and that the
Games would leave an affordable and significant legacy.
The vision for the Games is endorsed by strong public
support as shown in the IOC’s opinion poll.
The three levels of government have guaranteed to finance
the necessary infrastructure to deliver the Games and to
cover any potential economic shortfall in the OCOG budget.
The Commission believes that transition from a Rio 2016
bid to an OCOG would benefit from the continuity of the
experience and knowledge gained and partnerships forged
through organising the 2007 Pan-American Games.
The Paralympic Games would be fully integrated into
Games planning and Rio would use the 2016 Paralympic
Games as a catalyst for social inclusion and the promotion
and development of Paralympic sport.
The topography of Rio, as well as the legacy vision,
involving the development of four key zones in the city,
would impact on travel distances for some athletes and
other client groups. Efficient implementation of the Gamestime
transport operations plan, including the Olympic lane
system and delivery of extensive plans for new transport
infrastructure, would be critical.
Rio has embarked upon an extensive urban regeneration
programme under the Federal Plan for Growth Acceleration,
a national USD 240 billion programme, involving
major infrastructure works. A Rio 2016 Games would
accelerate delivery but would require careful management
and monitoring.
To meet Games requirements and given the insufficient
number of hotel rooms, Rio 2016 has put forward a tailored
accommodation plan incorporating hotel rooms, four villages
and six cruise ships, taking into account the future needs of
the city. This project, including managing the 20,000 room
media village in Barra, would require particular attention in
both the planning and delivery phases. The difficulty to obtain
guarantees for cruise ships seven years before the Games
places extra pressure on Rio 2016 to meet Games demands.
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MADRID
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Recognising that it faces public safety challenges, the City
of Rio has taken a new approach with regard to local
policing which engages the community in a range of social
and sports programmes, already showing positive results.
While hosting the 2014 FIFA World Cup will accelerate
infrastructure delivery and provide valuable organisational
experience, it also represents a challenge with respect to
2016 Games marketing and communications strategies.
Documentation and presentations provided to the Commission
by the key organisations involved in the bid were
detailed and of a very high quality.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM   #5362
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TOKIO:

TOKYO
Paralympic Games delivery has been fully integrated into
Games planning and would be used as a catalyst for social
change.
While noting Tokyo 2016’s vision to provide sustainable
legacies for the community, concern is expressed at the
relatively low level of public support for a 2016 Games in
Tokyo as shown in the IOC’s opinion poll.
During the venue visits, it became apparent to the Commission
that a number of venues listed as existing would
in fact need to be built. This lack of clarity could have
communications and legacy implications.
The Games venue plan would generally facilitate very
efficient Games operations and travel. There could be
challenges in regard to traffic around the areas of the
Olympic Village and the Olympic Stadium. In addition, the
Commission expressed concern about the size of the land
area available for the construction of the Olympic Village.
The guarantees provided for hotel accommodation cover
only the period between the Opening and Closing
Ceremonies. Should this period not be extended, client
groups needing to arrive earlier could face substantially
higher rates.
Although some on-site presentations and venue plans
lacked detail and clarity, documentation and information
presented by key organisations involved in the bid was of
a high quality.
The Tokyo 2016 bid is based on the promotion of a contemporary
Games through the delivery of a socially,
environmentally and economically sustainable Games in a
major metropolis. The “Uniting our Worlds” vision combines
vitality and sustainability, heritage and innovation
and forms part of a government strategy to promote youth
and participation in sport in an ageing society.
The 1964 Olympic Games changed the development of the
City of Tokyo. By organising the 2016 Games, Tokyo wishes
to build upon the positive legacy of the 1964 Games
through a combination of using former Olympic venues and
building new facilities and infrastructure, thereby creating
a “100 year” Olympic legacy. There is an emphasis on
sustainable development and urban regeneration, aligning
Games plans with the city’s long-term urban planning
strategies.
The Games concept is based on providing minimum travel
times for athletes and other client groups, through a highly
compact venue plan. All venues except shooting would be
within an 8 km radius of the city centre, making effective
use of the city’s extensive and high-capacity public
transport network.
To secure the implementation of its vision and concept and
to demonstrate its determination, the Tokyo Metropolitan
Government, which drives the bid, has financially guaranteed
the Games and has established an “Olympic Hosting Reserve
Fund” of USD 3.7 billion. The National Government and the
City of Tokyo have guaranteed to finance the necessary
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CHICAGO:

CHICAGO
Chicago 2016’s vision is to welcome the world to a 60-day
festival in the heart of the City using mostly existing facilities
and temporary venues within a number of public parks on
the shores of Lake Michigan. Chicago wishes to demonstrate
that it can organise the Games without the need for public
investment in major permanent venues.
The Olympic Village, the IBC/MPC and many hotels would
be centrally located and 22 competition venues would be
within 8 km of the city centre, resulting in a compact venue
plan with minimum travel times for athletes and other
client groups. Whilst presenting a compact plan, venues for
equestrian and shooting would be more than 50 km from
the Olympic Village. Road cycling and mountain bike, due
to IF technical requirements, would be 256 km and 293 km
away respectively in the State of Wisconsin and would be
supported by an additional village.
Games planning is closely aligned to the city’s continuing
urban planning strategies. Chicago 2016’s aim is to leave
sustainable environmental, social and sports legacies for the
community, particularly for youth, rather than to construct
permanent major sports venues.
Paralympic Games delivery has been fully integrated into
Games planning. The Games would be used to support and
further develop the city’s commitment to accessibility and
social inclusion.
The well-designed and compact lakefront Olympic Village
would offer a special experience for the athletes. However,
whilst letters of interest have been received from private
developers to deliver the Village, at the time of the Commission’s
visit, a full financing guarantee was not provided.
Chicago proposes to use 15 existing competition venues.
One venue will be built irrespective of the Games. If elected
as the Host City, Chicago would construct six permanent
venues that would be scaled down post-Games, such as
the Olympic Stadium and the aquatic venue, and nine
temporary venues. During the Commission’s visit, Chicago
2016 demonstrated thorough planning and a full under -
standing of the complexity of such a proposal, including
the construction of temporary venues in public parks. It is
nevertheless felt that the emphasis on major temporary or
scaled down venues increases the element of risk to the
OCOG in regard to the planning, costing and delivery of the
venues.
The compact concept should result in short travel times for
Games client groups. However, transport efficiency, parti -
cularly around the McCormick Place complex, would
depend on a number of factors including a significant
increase in the capacity and use of public transport and
the success of other plans to reduce traffic. As the Gamestime
transport plan involves more than doubling peak
commuter traffic demands on Chicago’s Metra Rail System,
such an increase could be a major challenge.
The bid is driven by the City of Chicago which would be the
lead governmental delivery authority. There would be a strong
financial and delivery reliance on public/private partnerships,
a model which is commonly used in the USA.
There would be direct involvement of the Federal Government,
including the designation of the Games as a National
Special Security Event whereby the Federal Government
would assume full financial and operational responsibility
for security.
The roles and responsibilities of the Federal Government and
the State of Illinois have been clearly defined. However, a
clearer delineation of roles and responsibilities between the
City and the OCOG would be required to ensure that the OCOG
would not be overburdened operationally and financially by
the delivery of Games infrastructure or by the management
of diverse programmes not directly linked to the delivery of
the event.
The structure of responsibilities and the heavy financial
reliance on the OCOG to deliver Games infrastructure and
temporary venues means Chicago would need an
extensive sponsorship programme to generate USD 1.83
billion in revenue for the Olympic and Paralympic Games to
support the significant expenditure budget. Recognizing
the strong revenue generating capability and the
commitments shown by the business community, the
Commission considers the budget to be ambitious but
achievable.
Chicago 2016 has not provided a full guarantee covering
a potential economic shortfall of the OCOG, as requested
by the IOC. Instead, it proposes a capped guarantee of USD
750 million, presenting a risk for the IOC should the shortfall
exceed this amount. At the time of the Commission’s
visit, Chicago 2016 had formally requested the IOC to
amend the Host City Contract. The Commission informed
the bid that a standard Host City Contract applied to all
cities.
Documentation and presentations provided to the Commission
by the key organisations involved in the bid were
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MADRID:

Madrid’s vision for a 2016 Games is based upon the city’s
sporting traditions and a strategy to attract major international
sports events. It takes advantage of the city’s recent
and on-going regeneration and urban development.
Plans are based on social and physical regeneration with
a two-fold approach to sports legacy: “hard” facility provision
and “soft” sports development initiatives encouraging
community participation and promoting pathways to excellence.
Social plans, encapsulated in the “Games with the
Human Touch” vision, include extensive programmes for
community sport and recreation.
The post-Games use of the Olympic Village development
(owned and fully funded by the City of Madrid) and the reuse
and relocation of the Media Village for social housing
are other elements of Madrid’s legacy plan. A major project
to create new green spaces and sporting and recreational
areas builds on existing comprehensive city environmental
programmes.
The delivery of the Paralympic Games would be fully
integrated into Games planning with Madrid aiming to
establish itself as a model city for social inclusion.
The vision for the Games is endorsed by strong support
from the public as shown in the IOC’s opinion poll.
The highly compact Games concept would generally
facilitate efficient operations and is based on the location
of key Olympic infrastructure, much of which already
exists: 23 out of 33 venues exist and two venues will be
built irrespective of the Games. All competition venues
(except shooting – 12 km from the Olympic Village – and
sailing), the Olympic Village and the IBC/MPC would be
within a 10 km radius of the city centre and can be
accessed by public transport. This would result in short
travel times for athletes and other client groups. Sailing
would take place in Valencia, 361 km away, and would be
supported by an additional village.
Plans for the construction or alteration of two venues – the
Olympic Stadium and the rowing, canoe/kayak flat water
and open water swimming venue – could result in significant
construction, operational and financial challenges.
The three levels of government – national, regional and
city – have provided strong support and financial commitments
and would cover any potential shortfall in the OCOG
budget.
However, the Candidature File and supporting documentation,
as well as the administrative structure proposed for a
Madrid 2016 Games, did not demonstrate a full understanding
of the need for clear delineation of roles and responsibilities,
including financial, between different stakeholders to ensure
an efficient and timely transition to the OCOG, or of the management
of operations required to implement the Games vision,
concept and plans. Given the current complexity and magnitude
of delivering a major multi-sports event such as the
Olympic Games, this could result in organisational and
financial challenges.
At the time of the visit, it was unclear whether Spanish antidoping
legislation complied with the WADA code. It is
important that this issue is resolved.
Documentation and presentations provided to the Commission
by the key organisations involved in the bid varied
in quality.
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IOC praises social focus of Rio in 2016, but accommodation and transport worries
Commission aims to report on strengths and challenges of Brazil

Rio de Janeiro has taken another important step on Wednesday in search of the right to host the 2016 Olympic Games. In a report released by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), the commission was in Rio in April showed he liked the proposals. One of the most stressed in the document was the intention of using the Rio event as a tool for transformation and social inclusion. Moreover, there was a clear concern about the accommodations. Based on the reports of four cities (London, Madrid, Tokyo and Chicago) will be chosen on 2 October this year the city will host the competition.



Therefore the introduction of the report made by an evaluation committee that visited the four cities was highlighted that "Canditura Rio 2016 is part of the Brazilian government to invest in the sport as a catalyst for social integration." This would be possible through the following programs: social inclusion through sport, elite sport, the expansion of sports infrastructure and hosting major sports events. The logo "Long live the passion and the great popular support, the highest among the candidates with 85%, were also highlighted.



- We are very happy, because the report has the approval of the IOC to our project and our vision for the Games, and that the river is considered ready to host the Olympic and Paralympic Games for the first time in South America The visit of the committee evaluation in Rio was a great success and this was highlighted in the description of our documentation and presentations, defined as 'very high quality' - said Nuzman, president of Rio 2016.



The concern with the control and reduction in violence was also reported. According to the committee, the National Public Safety (Safety Department) has managed to reduce crime through safety programs focused on social inclusion and recovery of people with the help of the sport.



The financial guarantees provided by the three levels of government (Federal, State and Municipal) were highlighted. Brazil plans to invest $ 2.82 billion, about $ 5.3 billion. The Brazilian budget, however, lags behind Chicago (U.S. $ 3.8 billion) and Tokyo ($ 2.86 billion).



Each of the four suggested areas to host the Games Rio 2016, which would be the 5th on August 21, was praised in the report. Barra da Tijuca was cited as a local expansion of the city and where it will be the "heart" of the competition. Copacabana was identified as "a major tourist attraction." In the Maracana, the plan to revitalize the port was one of the issues stressed. Already in Diodorus, as an area with no infrastructure, get the 2016 Games would result in social transformation.



The schedules of accommodation, however, seem to have convinced the commission well. They showed concern depend on the use of ships. "The difficulty of obtaining guarantees for the cruise ship seven years before the Games puts additional pressure on the Rio 2016 to meet the demands of games." Another point of concern to the IOC is transportation. The time spent in travel between some regions was not satisfactory. Hold the Olympics just two years after the 2014 World Cup was also considered a challenge.



Release / Disclosure.
Lack of guarantees for the budget is the biggest problem of the application of Chicago Chicago has the largest budget, but receives criticism from IOC



If the 2016 Olympics are in Chicago, they will be held between July 22 and August 7. The city by the American press organization and professionalism in your report. Early on, they say that Chicago aspires to unite the world in a spectacular, leaving a legacy of urban sustainability, sports, social and environmental community. "

The budget provides for an investment of U.S. $ 3.8 billion (U.S. $ 7.15 billion). The city, however, was critical of the carriage and were also questioned the guarantees for such investment as high.



Tokyo: technology x little popular support



Release / Disclosure
Lack of enthusiasm of the population is an obstacle Tokyo plans to organize the Games in 2016 between July 29 and August 14. The vision of the city is "Uniting Our Worlds", combining vitality and sustainability, heritage and innovation, according to the ten-year plan (2007 to 2016) of urban planning in the city. However, it is the city that has the lowest public support, only 55.5%. Moreover, it has 23.3% rejection.

The Games in Tokyo are the criterion for the location of sports venues as little time as possible to travel from one place to another, both by athletes and by spectators and the press. The application of the Japanese city in 2016 to show the positive legacy of the Games in 1964, using structures built at that time.



Madrid focuses on culture, but struggles in doping control



Release / Disclosure
Madrid: criticism in the report of the IOC Cited as one of the strongest Candát, Madrid received serious criticism in the report of the IOC. As part of the document, the European Parliament Committee reports that "it is not clear that the Spanish doping is consistent with the code of WADA."



Madrid, which is nearly 84.9% of popular support, proposes to organize the Games between 5 and 21 August. The vision of the application is focused on a physical and social regeneration, with the slogan "Games with a human touch" and the logo of an open hand, representing the open character of the city and its people. The plan has five key areas: sports, society, economy, culture and environment. The city emphasizes that although host the Olympics, the world will be able to know the Hispanic culture and Mediterranean.
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Finally, every city has great potential to host the games, plus a put,

What is the true purpose of the Games?

What is the Olympic Spirit?

Games troxa many changes and improvements in all cities where way out.

all cities in the world has many problems as urban security, housing etc..

All Committee commends the structures of their cities, Brazil is in itself has improved greatly, Rio de Janeiro, too.

Do not you think this is the time to have a stronger transformacion with the Games?

Look at Barcelona before and after 1992! the same could happen in Brazil, the Brazilian police have changed the laws, the growth has been huge, we need more games than any other city rival, you may even asked this: These such changes could be made even without the Games ?

Yes it could, but they would also change and reducing crime, creating through sports, the withdrawal of children from the world of crime, creating a better life projecion all .... Now that's the Olympic spirit .. ...

Which of the 04 towns need it right now??

Chicago? Madrid? Tokio? or Rio de Janeiro?

Think about it .... we need the games to radical changes in our children .... and hope that creates change ...

Good luck to all ..... hugs RIO 2016
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I can read, I just can't see beyond your intentions

Why only to post the down-sides of Rio and Madrid?? Chicago was targeted of mass concern to the IOC as well.
no, apparently you **can't read** because otherwise you would have noticed I said these two jumped at me. I read all of the summary and I thought the items I pointed out are more difficult to overcome than that of the other two contenders being that we are a month out before the selection. As to my intentions? I have no ulterior motive, I am rooting for Rio and Chicago in that order. But what about you? what is your agenda here?
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OK, the criticisms we expected such as Chicago's lack of a full financial guarantee and Rio's spread out venue plan are all there, so I'm not going to mention them for now. The quotes I've listed below, however, are things which took me by surprise a little bit:

Chicago:

The emphasis on major temporary or scaled down venues increases the element of risk to the OCOG in regard to the planning, costing and delivery of the venues.

This isn't something I really expected to see. Do major temporary venues really increase the complexity of planning, costing and delivery?

Tokyo:

During the venue visits, it became apparent to the Commission that a number of venues listed as existing would in fact need to be built.

How sloppy is this? That's shocking, it really is. But aside from that, Tokyo seemed to get a good write-up so maybe they'll get away with it.

Rio:

The difficulty to obtain guarantees for cruise ships seven years before the Games places extra pressure on Rio 2016 to meet Games demands.

While hosting the 2014 FIFA World Cup will accelerate infrastructure delivery and provide valuable organisational experience, it also represents a challenge with respect to 2016 Games marketing and communications strategies.


The first point about accommodation seems to be a real worry. I certainly expected crime to be mentioned (althogh that's been largely turned to a postive regarding falling numbers) and the spread out nature of the venues is also something I expect and it has been mentioned. Accommodation is another thing to put on the "things to do list". As for the world cup, I think that sentence sticks out like a sore thumb; I wasn't expecting the EC to put it in such blatent terms - the world cup is a concern although the infrastrcuture is of course a positive.

Madrid:

The Candidature File and supporting documentation, as well as the administrative structure proposed for a Madrid 2016 Games, did not demonstrate a full understanding of the need for clear delineation of roles and responsibilities, including financial, between different stakeholders to ensure an efficient and timely transition to the OCOG, or of the management of operations required to implement the Games vision, concept and plans. Given the current complexity and magnitude of delivering a major multi-sports event such as the Olympic Games, this could result in organisational and financial challenges.

At the time of the visit, it was unclear whether Spanish antidoping legislation complied with the WADA code. It is important that this issue is resolved.

Documentation and presentations provided to the Commission by the key organisations involved in the bid varied in quality.


A real downer of a conclusion for Madrid and a shock for me. I honestly expected Madrid to shine in this report - and doing so was really their only hope of upsetting the odds. I don't like to count my chickens, but I'm tempted to say we can rule Madrid out after reading this. How can a second bid in four years provide materials of variable quality? That's a worrying sign.

-------

So, as far as I'm concerned, having read all of the conclusions and skim-read the rest, there's not much to choose between Tokyo, Rio and Chicago. Madrid, who I really expected to shine, has a shockingly underwhelming report.

I'll read it in more detail another time. Who knows whether most IOC members will...
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no, apparently you **can't read** because otherwise you would have noticed I said these two jumped at me. I read all of the summary and I thought the items I pointed out are more difficult to overcome than that of the other two contenders being that we are a month out before the selection. As to my intentions? I have no ulterior motive, I am rooting for Rio and Chicago in that order. But what about you? what is your agenda here?
I have no agenda. Sure I'm hoping for Rio to win, but I have shown nothing but solid argumments among my statements. The fact is that, from time to time, some people like to just scrab a few worlds of ufanism and dont even bother to make their case. Obviously, I misunderstood you, and I'm sorry.

But I's till like to point out, like RobH did before, that there are matters of concern in all the four bid's, and I guess we're pretty much head to head in this race by the momment...
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OK, the criticisms we expected such as Chicago's lack of a full financial guarantee and Rio's spread out venue plan are all there, so I'm not going to mention them for now. The quotes I've listed below, however, are things which took me by surprise a little bit:

Chicago:

The emphasis on major temporary or scaled down venues increases the element of risk to the OCOG in regard to the planning, costing and delivery of the venues.

This isn't something I really expected to see. Do major temporary venues really increase the complexity of planning, costing and delivery?

Tokyo:

During the venue visits, it became apparent to the Commission that a number of venues listed as existing would in fact need to be built.

How sloppy is this? That's shocking, it really is. But aside from that, Tokyo seemed to get a good write-up so maybe they'll get away with it.

Rio:

The difficulty to obtain guarantees for cruise ships seven years before the Games places extra pressure on Rio 2016 to meet Games demands.

While hosting the 2014 FIFA World Cup will accelerate infrastructure delivery and provide valuable organisational experience, it also represents a challenge with respect to 2016 Games marketing and communications strategies.


The first point about accommodation seems to be a real worry. I certainly expected crime to be mentioned (althogh that's been largely turned to a postive regarding falling numbers) and the spread out nature of the venues is also something I expect and it has been mentioned. Accommodation is another thing to put on the "things to do list". As for the world cup, I think that sentence sticks out like a sore thumb; I wasn't expecting the EC to put it in such blatent terms - the world cup is a concern although the infrastrcuture is of course a positive.

Madrid:

The Candidature File and supporting documentation, as well as the administrative structure proposed for a Madrid 2016 Games, did not demonstrate a full understanding of the need for clear delineation of roles and responsibilities, including financial, between different stakeholders to ensure an efficient and timely transition to the OCOG, or of the management of operations required to implement the Games vision, concept and plans. Given the current complexity and magnitude of delivering a major multi-sports event such as the Olympic Games, this could result in organisational and financial challenges.

At the time of the visit, it was unclear whether Spanish antidoping legislation complied with the WADA code. It is important that this issue is resolved.

Documentation and presentations provided to the Commission by the key organisations involved in the bid varied in quality.


A real downer of a conclusion for Madrid and a shock for me. I honestly expected Madrid to shine in this report - and doing so was really their only hope of upsetting the odds. I don't like to count my chickens, but I'm tempted to say we can rule Madrid out after reading this. How can a second bid in four years provide materials of variable quality? That's a worrying sign.

-------

So, as far as I'm concerned, having read all of the conclusions and skim-read the rest, there's not much to choose between Tokyo, Rio and Chicago. Madrid, who I really expected to shine, has a shockingly underwhelming report.

I'll read it in more detail another time. Who knows whether most IOC members will...
Well .. Point Lodging:

* For years, anchored in Rio de Janeiro approximately 150 cruise ships ...

* If you do not know, Soccer Games will be held in other cities with larger capacity and will also be the headquarters of FIFA, and Belo Horizonte, Sao Paulo, Brasilia and Salvador, all with good structure ....
(reduce the demand for rooms)

* Is already under construction, regardless of Copa FIFA and IOC plus 10 hotels from 03 to 05 stars in the RIO ....

* Slums, divisions are being urbanized since 2003.

* The crime has decreased significantly, and they have problems everywhere, we still have an advantage, never had a terrorist attack in Brazil, is the most diplomatically accepted in the world.

* Brazil: The country has undergone radical changes in improvements in all areas ... Today is already one of the best economies in the world, our President, Lula .... one of the best and most active, and defense of the poor in the world.



* The infrastructure, will be ready before 2014 in all the FIFA headquarters .... we are not expecting being elected, the work of improvements have already been done .....

.... And, as in this report, we have much to offer, not only in Brazil but also for South America, greet everyone with much love and passion ....

Live that passion ... RIO 2016

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All that may be true, but it doesn't change what the report says; that's what I was commenting on.
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All that may be true, but it doesn't change what the report says; that's what I was commenting on.
What is clear is that in the report:

Changes can be made, they believe in them and that will not happen and unforeseen errors, as in other issues ....

these changes should be closely monitored and more charges .... and who understood the vision and why the games were held in Rio ...

And that changes and improvements, they saw closely the visit of IOC ...

And everyone got the message, Rio and Brazil, but is able to host, as not even the parents had an event of this magnitude, the recoveries would be tougher than in other cities or countries competing, and that would speed up the FIFA World Cup development and improvements that the City already has done since the Pan ...


I fear still the best guarantee of places and finceiro ...
But I'm not here to fight, to understand their point of view, so I like all Brazilian, that the Olympics in Brazil, would bring a great future to our children, besides the development ... what we have learned since 2002 when President Lula took office, the improvements and development must be for everyone and all the world, and not for a few ....

Hugs, and the opportunity that has come to closely watch the Brazil and see what we have to our best .... PEOPLE .... BRAZIL ...
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Even after the disclosure of reports assessing the candidate cities to host the 2016 Olympic Games, it is difficult to risk one point favorite. One of the gambling sites most respected in the world, "Games Bids, believes that the dispute between Rio, Madrid, Tokyo and Chicago is very competitive. The expectation runs until 2 October in Copenhagen, where the winner will be revealed.

The balance between the candidates remains, since the reports of the four cities have positives and negatives. Apparently, it is up to the voters of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to evaluate which one has more pros than cons.

For the Games Bids, Rio de Janeiro is strengthened by the emotional aspect, performing for the first time the Olympic Games in South America The presentations and documents were also considered "high quality". But there are technical concerns with lodging and transportation. The IOC also believed that, despite the 2014 Copa leave legacies, can be a challenge especially in the "communication strategies".


The Chicago report underscores the broad sponsorship program for 2016 as well as the high budget ($ 3.8 billion, about $ 7.15 billion). But the commission cautioned that there is no guarantee that there would be enough revenue to cover these costs. Transportation around the McCormick Place Complex is another concern of the IOC.

Tokyo, which received the highest marks in the initial assessment report, also received criticism this time. The low popular support, only 56%, was highlighted in the report. The IOC also said that there was a discrepancy in the documentation submitted to the entity. The number of listed equipment was not compatible to what was seen at the site.

The strength of Madrid was just the strong public support, almost 85%. But it's missing in the documents. The report indicated that they "have not demonstrated a full understanding of the need for clear definition of roles and responsibilities, including financial, between the different parties." In addition, the IOC commission stressed that the Spanish anti-doping law is not in line with the World Anti-Doping Agency.


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C H I C A G O !!

Para realizar uma “experiência espetacular” para o mundo, como diz em seu relatório, Chicago não foi modesta. A cidade americana apresentou um orçamento de US$ 3,8 bilhões (R$ 7,15 bilhões, aproximadamente) para realizar os Jogos Olímpicos entre os dias 22 de julho e 7 de agosto.



No entanto, o Comitê Olímpico Internacional (COI) apresentou críticas à candidatura de Chicago. A maior delas é justamente em relação ao alto orçamento: o COI não encontrou no relatório nenhuma garantia da cidade de que haveria receita suficiente para cobrir os custos. Além disso, o trânsito intenso nas ruas de Chicago joga contra a cidade e o COI se decepcionou com a falta de planos para o transporte público.

Como no relatório do Rio, há preocupação social. A cidade prevê uma verba de US$ 10 milhões (cerca de R$ 18 milhões) para sete fundações promoverem o desenvolvimento econômico e comunitários dos bairros mais próximos aos locais de competição.



Chicago apresentou um plano com 22 locais de locais de competição, a Vila Olímpica e diversos hotéis concentrados em um raio de 8km do centro da cidade. Fora deste raio, estariam tênis, pentatlo moderno, tiro, hipismo e ciclismo. O conceito dos Jogos inclui ainda outros elementos, como atividades culturas, transformando o centro da cidade em um playground olímpico com atmosfera festiva.

A candidatura americana não acredita que precisa de um grande número de novas estruturas esportivas. A maior parte dos locais de competição será lugares que já existem ou temporários. Novas construções só serão feitas em caso de muita necessidade e se forem deixar um legado positivo para a comunidade do local.

Chicago espera ser um modelo para outras cidades e para o Movimento Olímpico.


C H I C A G O !!

To perform a "spectacular experience" to the world, as he says in his report, Chicago was not modest. The American city had a budget of $ 3.8 billion (U.S. $ 7.15 billion, approximately) to host the Olympic Games between 22 July and 7 August.



However, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) had the critical application of Chicago. The biggest one is just over the top budget: the IOC did not find the report of the city is no guarantee that there would be enough revenue to cover costs. Moreover, the heavy traffic on the streets of Chicago playing against the city and the IOC was disappointed with the lack of plans for public transport.

As the report of the Rio, there is social concern. The city provides a budget of $ 10 million (about $ 18 million) for seven foundations to promote the economic development community and the neighborhoods closest to the venues.



Chicago submitted a plan with 22 local venues, the Olympic Village and several hotels concentrated in a radius of 8km from the city center. Outside this radius, would be tennis, modern pentathlon, shooting, riding and cycling. The concept of the Games also includes other elements such as cultural activities, transforming the downtown into an Olympic playground with a party atmosphere.

The application does not believe that American needs a large number of new sporting facilities. Most venues will be places that already exist or temporary. New buildings will only be made in case of great need and if they leave a positive legacy for the local community.

Chicago hopes to be a model for other cities and the Olympic Movement.
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A real downer of a conclusion for Madrid and a shock for me. I honestly expected Madrid to shine in this report - and doing so was really their only hope of upsetting the odds. I don't like to count my chickens, but I'm tempted to say we can rule Madrid out after reading this. How can a second bid in four years provide materials of variable quality? That's a worrying sign.
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So, as far as I'm concerned, having read all of the conclusions and skim-read the rest, there's not much to choose between Tokyo, Rio and Chicago. Madrid, who I really expected to shine, has a shockingly underwhelming report.

I'll read it in more detail another time. Who knows whether most IOC members will...

The part about Madrid not not having their game together so to speak organizationally was perhaps what surprised me most from all the critiques. Granted I didn't pay very close attention last time around but I thought that was their strong suit last time and one of the primary reasons why they got as close as they did fours years ago.
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M A D R I D !!

Madri foi a cidade mais criticada no relatório do Comitê Olímpico Internacional (COI) divulgado nesta quarta-feira. A entidade internacional apontou diversas falhas organizacionais e até legais na candidatura: “durante a visita, não ficou claro se a legislação espanhola antidoping está de acordo com o código da WADA (Agência Mundial Antidoping, na sigla em inglês). É importante que isso seja resolvido”.

Além disso, ao contrário das outras cidades, que tiveram suas apresentações e documentação muito elogiadas no relatório, o COI descreveu os documentos de Madri 2016 como “variando em qualidade”. Não bastasse isso, a entidade criticou a falta de clareza na estrutura administrativa para os Jogos, que, segundo o COI, não explica satisfatoriamente os papeis e as responsabilidades dos administradores dos Jogos, incluindo a área financeira. “Isso pode ser um grande desafio financeiro e organizacional”, diz o relatório.

A favor da cidade, o grande apoio popular. Atrás apenas do Rio de Janeiro, Madri tem 84,9% de sua população querendo a realização das Olimpíadas na capital espanhola. Nacionalmente, a Espanha é a melhor neste quesito: 86% dos espanhóis mostram apoio à candidatura. O Brasil é o segundo, com 68,9%.


M A D R I D !!


Madrid was the city's most criticized in the report of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said on Wednesday. The world body noted a number of organizational failures and even legal in the application: "During the visit, it was unclear whether the Spanish anti-doping legislation complies with the code of WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency, its acronym in English). It is important that this be resolved. "

Moreover, unlike other cities that had their presentations and documents highly praised in the report, the IOC described the documents in Madrid in 2016 as "varying in quality." On top of that, the organization criticized the lack of clarity in the administrative structure for the Games, according to the IOC does not satisfactorily explain the roles and responsibilities of directors of the Games, including the financial district. "This can be a great financial and organizational challenge," says the report.

In favor of the city, the great popular support. Second only to Rio de Janeiro, Madrid has 84.9% of the population wanting the Olympics taking place in the Spanish capital. Nationally, Spain is the best in this question: 86% of Spaniards show support for the candidacy. Brazil is second with 68.9%.
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Will you please provide links for what your posting. Also it seems you are basically posting rehashed material for which there is no need.
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T O K I O !!

Embora tenha um plano elaborado e vasta receita para realizar os Jogos Olímpicos, Tóquio tem um obstáculo sério na sua candidatura: a falta de apoio popular. O Comitê Olímpico Internacional (COI) expressou preocupação com os números da pesquisa feita na cidade japonesa: 55,5% da população apoia a iniciativa, menor percentagem dentre todas as candidatas, e 23,3% se opõe, maior número dentre as quatro cidades.

Com orçamento de US$ 2,86 bilhões (R$ 5,38 bilhões), os Jogos de Tóquio têm como critério para a localização das estruturas esportivas o menor tempo possível para viajar de um local para outro, tanto pelos atletas como pelos espectadores e a imprensa. A candidatura da cidade japonesa em 2016 pretende mostrar o legado positivo dos Jogos de 1964, usando estruturas construídas naquela época.

Porém, isto também sofreu críticas do COI. Na visita à cidade, a entidade internacional acredita que as antigas estruturas de Tóquio muitas vezes não são boas o suficiente para sediar competições olímpicas, e que novos locais deveriam ser construídos. Além disso, o tamanho da área disponível para a construção da Vila Olímpica também é preocupante para o COI.


Tóquio planeja organizar os Jogos de 2016 entre 29 de julho e 14 de agosto. A visão da cidade é “Unindo nossos Mundos”, combinando vitalidade e sustentabilidade, herança e inovação, de acordo com o plano de dez anos (2007 a 2016) de planejamento urbano da cidade. Este ano tem três objetivos principais: arborização da cidade, criar um modelo urbano para uma sociedade mais velha e promover o esporte para as crianças.

Para isso, a cidade criou dois fundos: um para a candidatura a 2016, com capital de US$ 3,7 bilhões (R$ 6,9 bilhões) e outro para promover esportes através de intercâmbio e a identificação de futuros atletas e treinadores, de US$ 200 milhões (R$ 370 milhões, aproximadamente).



T O K I O !!


Although an elaborate and extensive recipe for the Olympic Games, Tokyo has a serious obstacle in their application: the lack of popular support. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has expressed concern about the numbers of research done in the Japanese city: 55.5% of the population supports the initiative, the lowest percentage among all the candidates, and 23.3% opposed, as many among the four cities .

With a budget of $ 2.86 billion (U.S. $ 5.38 billion), the Tokyo Games have discretion as to the location of sports venues as little time as possible to travel from one place to another, both by athletes and by spectators and press. The application of the Japanese city in 2016 to show the positive legacy of the Games in 1964, using structures built at that time.

But it also suffered criticism from the IOC. During his visit to the city, the international body believes that the old structures of Tokyo are often not good enough to host the Olympic competitions, and that new sites should be built. Moreover, the size of land available for building the Olympic Village is also concern for the IOC.


Tokyo plans to organize the Games in 2016 between July 29 and August 14. The vision of the city is "Uniting Our Worlds", combining vitality and sustainability, heritage and innovation, according to the ten-year plan (2007 to 2016) of urban planning in the city. This year has three main goals: afforestation of the city, creating an urban model for an older society and promote the sport to children.

For this, the city has created two funds: one to apply for 2016, with capital of $ 3.7 billion (U.S. $ 6.9 billion) and another to promote sports through exchange and identification of future athletes and coaches of U.S. $ 200 million (U.S. $ 370 million, approximately).
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THIS INFORMATION IS BASED ON THE PRESS INTERNATIONAL DISCLOSED IN THIS WEDNESDAY 02 SEPTEMBER 2009 ...

ATR
GAMES BID
GLOBO.COM
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QUESTIONS?

WHAT HAS BEEN POSTED FOR ME, IS THE INTENTION TO STUDY COULD WE ALL THE BEST OPTION FOR 2016 ...

WHETHER RIO DE JANEIRO
OR ANY OTHER CANDIDATE
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After reading the reports, I'm guessing Chicago's pitfalls are not enough to keep it from winning and Rio’s are…but I guess we’ll wait to see what happens.
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