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Old September 25th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #5621
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Brazil will probably get for sure:
Zhenliang (He), da China, Fok (Timothy Tsun Ting, de Hong Kong), Mzali (Mohamed, da Tunísia) and Olegário (Vásquez Raña, do México)

here some predictions made by a forumer:

Originally Posted by maurocsf
Price Nawaf Faisal Fahd Abdulaziz - Saudi Arabia - Chicago
Tamas Ajan - Hungary - Chicago
Prince Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah - Kuwait - Chicago
Princess Haya Bint Al Hussein - UAE - Tokyo
Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani - Qatar - Chicago
Prince Albert II - Monaco - Rio de Janeiro
Shahid Ali - Pakistan - Chicago
Beatrice Allen - Gambia - Chicago
Thomas Bach - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Patrick Baumann - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Fernando Bello - Portugal - Rio de Janeiro
Sepp Blatter - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Claudia Bokel - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Valeri Borzov - Ukraine - Rio de Janeiro
Andres Botero Philippsbourne - Colombia - Chicago
Els van Breda Vriesman - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Ukraine - Sergey bubka - Rio de Janeiro
Franco Carraro - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Richard Carrion - Puerto Rico - Chicago
Patrick Chamunda - Zambia - Chicago
Chang Ung - Korea DPR - Madrid
Ottavio Cinguanta - Italy - Madrid
John Bowling Coastes - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Philip Coles - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Sir Philip Craven - Great Britain - Chicago
Manuela Di Centa - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Lamine Diack - Senegal - Madrid
Alpha Ibrahim Diallo - Madrid
Ivan Dibos - Peru - Rio de Janeiro
Guy Drut - France - Madrid
Hicham El Guerrouj - Morocco - Madrid
Nawal El Moutawakei - Morocco - Rio de Janeiro
Fransisco Elizalde - Philippines - Chicago
Rania Elwani - Egypt - Chicago
Ugur Erdener - Turkey - Rio de Janeiro
Rene Fasel - Switzerland - Madrid
Timothy Fok - Hong Kong - Tokyo ERRADO!
Frankie Fredericks - Namibia - Chicago
Anton Geesink - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Alex Gilady - Israel - Chicago
Reynaldo Gonzalez Lopez - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Kevan Gosper - Australia - Chicago
Issa Hayatou - Cameroon - Chicago
Ke Zhenliang - PR China - Rio de Janeiro CORRETO!
Gerhard Heiberg - Norway - Madrid
Henri, Grad Duke of Luxembourg - Luxembourgh - Madrid
Patrick Hickey - Ireland (the real one) - Chicago
Nicole L.M. Hoevertsz - Aruba - Chicago
Prince Tunku Imran - Malaysia - Tokyo
Willi Kaltschmitt Lujan - Guatemala - Rio de Janeiro
Gian-Franco Kasper - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Nat Indrapana - Thailand - Tokyo
Kipchoge Keino - Kenya - Chicago
Toni Khoury - Lebanon - Tokyo
Jean-Calude Killy - France - Madrid
Saku Koivu - Finland - Chicago
Mustapha Larfaoui - Algeria - Rio de Janeiro
Lee Jun-Hee - Korea Republic - Madrid
Princess Nora - Liechtenstein - Madrid
Gunulla Lindberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Arne Ljungqvist - Sweden - Madrid
Julio Cesar Maglione - Rio de Janeiro
Robin Mitchell - Fiji - Tokyo
Dae Sung Moon - Kore Republic - Rio de Janeiro
Samin Moudallal - Syria - Rio de Janeiro
Mohammed Mzali - Tunisia - Rio de Janeiro CORRETO!
Ng Ser Miang - Singapore - Tokyo
Lambis Nikolau - Greece - Chicago
Francis Nyangweso - Uganda - Chicago
Will-Alexander, Prince of Orange - Netherlands - Madrid
Denis Oswald - Switzerland - Madrid
Lassana Palenfo - Cote d'Ivoire - Chicago
Mario Pescante - Italy - Madrid
Aleksandr Popov - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Dick Pound - Canada - Tokyo
Sam Ramsamy - South Africa - Chicago
Sir Craig Reedie - Great Britain - Chicago
Francesco Ricci Bitti - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Anne, Princess Royal - Great Britain - Chicago
Yumilka Ruiz Luaces - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Mounir Sabet - Egypt - Rio de Janeiro
Meliton Sanchez Rivas - Panama - Chicago
Pal Schmitt - Hungary - Madrid
Rebecca Scott - Canada - Chicago
Austin Sealy - Barbados - Chicago
Randhir Signh - India - Tokyo
Vitali Smirnov - Russia - Madrid
Rita Subowo - Indonesia - Tokyo
Irena Szewinska - Poland - Rio de Janeiro
Peter Taliberg - Finland - Madrid
Shamil Tarpishchev - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Walther Troger - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Mario Vazques Rana - Mexico - Madrid
Olegario Vazquez Rana - Mexico - Madrid ERRADO!
Antun Vrdoljak - Croatia - Rio de Janeiro
Leo Wallner - Austria - Rio de Janeiro
Pernilla Wiberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Wu Ching-Kou - Chinese Taipei - Tokyo
yu Zaiqing - PR China - Rio de Janeiro
Kan Zelezny - Czech Republic - Rio de Janeiro


Rio de Janeiro - 39
Chicago - 29
Madrid - 21
Tokyo - 11
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Old September 25th, 2009, 11:36 PM   #5622
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Brazil will probably get for sure:
Zhenliang (He), da China, Fok (Timothy Tsun Ting, de Hong Kong), Mzali (Mohamed, da Tunísia) and Olegário (Vásquez Raña, do México)

here some predictions made by a forumer:

Originally Posted by maurocsf
Price Nawaf Faisal Fahd Abdulaziz - Saudi Arabia - Chicago
Tamas Ajan - Hungary - Chicago
Prince Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah - Kuwait - Chicago
Princess Haya Bint Al Hussein - UAE - Tokyo
Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani - Qatar - Chicago
Prince Albert II - Monaco - Rio de Janeiro
Shahid Ali - Pakistan - Chicago
Beatrice Allen - Gambia - Chicago
Thomas Bach - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Patrick Baumann - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Fernando Bello - Portugal - Rio de Janeiro
Sepp Blatter - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Claudia Bokel - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Valeri Borzov - Ukraine - Rio de Janeiro
Andres Botero Philippsbourne - Colombia - Chicago
Els van Breda Vriesman - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Ukraine - Sergey bubka - Rio de Janeiro
Franco Carraro - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Richard Carrion - Puerto Rico - Chicago
Patrick Chamunda - Zambia - Chicago
Chang Ung - Korea DPR - Madrid
Ottavio Cinguanta - Italy - Madrid
John Bowling Coastes - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Philip Coles - Australia - Rio de Janeiro
Sir Philip Craven - Great Britain - Chicago
Manuela Di Centa - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Lamine Diack - Senegal - Madrid
Alpha Ibrahim Diallo - Madrid
Ivan Dibos - Peru - Rio de Janeiro
Guy Drut - France - Madrid
Hicham El Guerrouj - Morocco - Madrid
Nawal El Moutawakei - Morocco - Rio de Janeiro
Fransisco Elizalde - Philippines - Chicago
Rania Elwani - Egypt - Chicago
Ugur Erdener - Turkey - Rio de Janeiro
Rene Fasel - Switzerland - Madrid
Timothy Fok - Hong Kong - Tokyo ERRADO!
Frankie Fredericks - Namibia - Chicago
Anton Geesink - Netherlands - Rio de Janeiro
Alex Gilady - Israel - Chicago
Reynaldo Gonzalez Lopez - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Kevan Gosper - Australia - Chicago
Issa Hayatou - Cameroon - Chicago
Ke Zhenliang - PR China - Rio de Janeiro CORRETO!
Gerhard Heiberg - Norway - Madrid
Henri, Grad Duke of Luxembourg - Luxembourgh - Madrid
Patrick Hickey - Ireland (the real one) - Chicago
Nicole L.M. Hoevertsz - Aruba - Chicago
Prince Tunku Imran - Malaysia - Tokyo
Willi Kaltschmitt Lujan - Guatemala - Rio de Janeiro
Gian-Franco Kasper - Switzerland - Rio de Janeiro
Nat Indrapana - Thailand - Tokyo
Kipchoge Keino - Kenya - Chicago
Toni Khoury - Lebanon - Tokyo
Jean-Calude Killy - France - Madrid
Saku Koivu - Finland - Chicago
Mustapha Larfaoui - Algeria - Rio de Janeiro
Lee Jun-Hee - Korea Republic - Madrid
Princess Nora - Liechtenstein - Madrid
Gunulla Lindberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Arne Ljungqvist - Sweden - Madrid
Julio Cesar Maglione - Rio de Janeiro
Robin Mitchell - Fiji - Tokyo
Dae Sung Moon - Kore Republic - Rio de Janeiro
Samin Moudallal - Syria - Rio de Janeiro
Mohammed Mzali - Tunisia - Rio de Janeiro CORRETO!
Ng Ser Miang - Singapore - Tokyo
Lambis Nikolau - Greece - Chicago
Francis Nyangweso - Uganda - Chicago
Will-Alexander, Prince of Orange - Netherlands - Madrid
Denis Oswald - Switzerland - Madrid
Lassana Palenfo - Cote d'Ivoire - Chicago
Mario Pescante - Italy - Madrid
Aleksandr Popov - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Dick Pound - Canada - Tokyo
Sam Ramsamy - South Africa - Chicago
Sir Craig Reedie - Great Britain - Chicago
Francesco Ricci Bitti - Italy - Rio de Janeiro
Anne, Princess Royal - Great Britain - Chicago
Yumilka Ruiz Luaces - Cuba - Rio de Janeiro
Mounir Sabet - Egypt - Rio de Janeiro
Meliton Sanchez Rivas - Panama - Chicago
Pal Schmitt - Hungary - Madrid
Rebecca Scott - Canada - Chicago
Austin Sealy - Barbados - Chicago
Randhir Signh - India - Tokyo
Vitali Smirnov - Russia - Madrid
Rita Subowo - Indonesia - Tokyo
Irena Szewinska - Poland - Rio de Janeiro
Peter Taliberg - Finland - Madrid
Shamil Tarpishchev - Russia - Rio de Janeiro
Walther Troger - Germany - Rio de Janeiro
Mario Vazques Rana - Mexico - Madrid
Olegario Vazquez Rana - Mexico - Madrid ERRADO!
Antun Vrdoljak - Croatia - Rio de Janeiro
Leo Wallner - Austria - Rio de Janeiro
Pernilla Wiberg - Sweden - Rio de Janeiro
Wu Ching-Kou - Chinese Taipei - Tokyo
yu Zaiqing - PR China - Rio de Janeiro
Kan Zelezny - Czech Republic - Rio de Janeiro


Rio de Janeiro - 39
Chicago - 29
Madrid - 21
Tokyo - 11
I think you’re crazy, why would the majority of European members want to vote for Rio over Chicago? If you look at their prior picks, there is nothing to suggest Rio has the advantage over Chicago. I don't know why you think Chinese delegates would vote for Rio either, the Asian votes would likely go to Chicago once Tokyo gets knocked out. It's really anyone's game.
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pescante will not vote for madrid.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 12:23 AM   #5625
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Old September 26th, 2009, 01:23 AM   #5626
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Old September 26th, 2009, 03:28 AM   #5627
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I think you’re crazy, why would the majority of European members want to vote for Rio over Chicago? If you look at their prior picks, there is nothing to suggest Rio has the advantage over Chicago. I don't know why you think Chinese delegates would vote for Rio either, the Asian votes would likely go to Chicago once Tokyo gets knocked out. It's really anyone's game.
crazy is your mother!! Read first!! I said that is the prediction from a forumer!!!
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Old September 26th, 2009, 03:51 AM   #5628
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crazy is your mother!! Read first!! I said that is the prediction from a forumer!!!
Sorry, did not mean it that way. A prediction is a prediction I suppose. Your guess is as good as mine.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 05:29 AM   #5629
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I think you’re crazy, why would the majority of European members want to vote for Rio over Chicago? If you look at their prior picks, there is nothing to suggest Rio has the advantage over Chicago. I don't know why you think Chinese delegates would vote for Rio either, the Asian votes would likely go to Chicago once Tokyo gets knocked out. It's really anyone's game.
And what in heaven makes you think those absurdities?
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And what in heaven makes you think those absurdities?
Simple logic my friend, but you're welcome to believe what you want.
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Er... IOC decisions do not always make sense.

Also there's a lot of politics involved and ONE DAY South America is gonna have to get it.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 05:48 AM   #5632
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Er... IOC decisions do not always make sense.

Also there's a lot of politics involved and ONE DAY South America is gonna have to get it.
I agree. But right now Brazil is thinking they're China, and they're not. Brazil's going to try to play the guilty card to win, forget that this is a competition between cities! The question is if the IOC members will buy it. I'm guessing they won't.

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Chicago... Our Great City will win the 2016 Olympics!!!!!!!!!!We are the best City on Earth....................................................................................................
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:25 AM   #5634
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Fraudulent Anti-Chicago 2016 Website Traced To Rio

Earlier this week, GamesBids.com reported that website ChicagoansForRio.com is backed by a group of Chicagoans who don’t want to see the Olympic Games come to Chicago. This may be true – but only if those Chicagoans are in Rio de Janeiro.

GamesBids.com has discovered evidence through emails, web forum posts and web server logs that indicate promoters of this site are likely based in a city that’s Chicago’s biggest rival for the 2016 Olympic Games – Rio.

While the true identity of the individuals or group involved remains unknown, and there is no evidence to suggest a connection with the Rio bid committee, the professional and organized effort seems to be a deliberate ploy to sabotage Chicago 2016.

A representative of the Organization wrote in an email that “hundreds have submitted e-mails to the IOC, and one IOC office sent a response that said, 'We've been bombarded. You've made your point.'”

IOC Director of Communications Mark Adams denied this was the case.

“As far as I know there is absolutely no truth in this story” Adams told GamesBids.com.

When told the IOC’s position, the representative wrote “we understand the pessimism that comes with anonymity. Emails from the site are being sent to the email addresses we were able to confirm. There are roughly 20. Many are connected to specific countries' olympics offices.”

A webmaster of the GamesBids.com Forums server examined various posts in a topic about the new site after they failed a routine compliance check. He found that a new member had taken on the persona of a Chicagoan who was against her city’s bid and then continued as a cheerleader for the site in question. Server logs indicated that the member’s computer connecting to the forum website was located in Rio.

But suspicion piqued after discovering another member who appeared somewhat pro-Chicago in his initial post before starting the topic linking to chicagoansforrio.com. That member connected from the same computer address in Rio as the “cheerleader”. That activity violated the terms and conditions of the GamesBids.com Forums because it indicates the likelihood that a single person is using more than one alias to deceive readers.
.......read more[/U]
Very disappointing. Hope none of the trails lead back to the official Rio committee.
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Brazil will probably get for sure:
Zhenliang (He), da China, Fok (Timothy Tsun Ting, de Hong Kong), Mzali (Mohamed, da Tunísia) and Olegário (Vásquez Raña, do México)

here some predictions made by a forumer:

Originally Posted by maurocsf
Price Nawaf Faisal Fahd Abdulaziz - Saudi Arabia - Chicago
yu Zaiqing - PR China - Rio de Janeiro
Kan Zelezny - Czech Republic - Rio de Janeiro


Rio de Janeiro - 39
Chicago - 29
Madrid - 21
Tokyo - 11
Buddy,
What makes u think most of the European votes will b for Rio, cos even if Rio or Chicago, it wud b non european and virtual rotational policy wud help them.
Or is there some Games preparation gaurantee from Rio to European countries alone.
But the misinformation camgain in the form of ChicagoansforRIO is bad. But history shows that such gimmicky one had won the bids. Say Sydney & Manchester conjured up together to keep Beijing out (Still only by 2 votes).
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Simple logic my friend, but you're welcome to believe what you want.
No, logic is made of tautologies (ie, self-sufficient asserts), and there's no logic in your statement... in the best case scenario it's a high probability based upon previous data, in the worst, your bias.
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No, logic is made of tautologies (ie, self-sufficient asserts), and there's no logic in your statement... in the best case scenario it's a high probability based upon previous data, in the worst, your bias.
Why in the world would China delegates vote for Rio over Chicago? It's logical they would vote for Chicago because they see money. You have to be kidding me, you don't see the logic there? I'm not being bias in this case, look at history. Look at where most of the previous Olympics have been, that's a pretty good indictor of where this vote is going.

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Really? Rio 39? Looks like some of you can make a really good fortune, so why wait?

2016 Olympic Games Host Set To Be Announced As Chicago According To Latest Betting Odds

Friday 25 September 2009 at 10:33

OtherSeveral bookies are betting on who will host the 2016 Olympic games and with an announcement coming in just a week’s time (2nd October) the betting odds are proving extremely popular and give a great insight into who has best chance of winning the Olympic vote.

Chicago Almost A Certainty To Land Olympics

The hot favourites to land the Olympic games are Chicago, those wishing to bet on Chicago being announced as the winner next week can get 8/11 with Bet365 and Boylesports. Chicago have always been the front runners to land the Olympic games and it seems judging by the odds the city of Chicago will be hosting the 2016 Olympic Games.

What If Chicago Miss Out?
If Chicago is surprisingly overlooked than it seems that Rio de Janeiro will get the nod, the Brazilian capital is the second favourite and can be backed at 5/2 with Bet365. Tokyo is next best at 6/1 with Coral whilst the complete outsider is Madrid at 12/1 with Coral. For more 2016 Olympic Games Betting Odds click on any of the bookie links above.

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Chicago - 29
Madrid - 21
Tokyo - 11
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Brazilian capital?
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I just realized the winner is announced on the 2nd. Ill be in Chicago until the 1st. It would have been sweet if I was there for the announcement.
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