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Old September 27th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #5701
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Why rio? Did u click on the link to read the whole article?
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Old September 27th, 2009, 09:19 PM   #5702
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I'd like to see the OG for second time in a Latin City...Rio de Janeiro, but you gotta know that is a huge cost in order to organize them. Madrid is a good option too, Chicago hmm could but noooo...let another countries , and Tokyo has already organized the OG in 64.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 09:24 PM   #5703
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Why rio? Did u click on the link to read the whole article?
Just a guess, don't mind.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #5704
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If Chicago doesn't win my second option would be Rio, then Madrid but not Tokyo.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 11:05 PM   #5705
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tokio or Rio i like it ,eeuu they are celebrate too olimpics games(why is it?),tokio present the best economy and atractions,and rio they are beach....and sexy people.....but the first olimpics for latinamerica....,madrid we have the best people the best food,and we are near of very poeple(europe ,north africa,middle west)also we are the best infrastructure,madrid also it is economy and socurity,i think that is the best election
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Old September 27th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #5706
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Go Madrid!!!

People say, give it to Rio for the first South American Olympics. Unfortunatly they are basicly the only country that speak portuguese. In that case give it to Madrid for all the spanish speaking countries in South America hahaha. Salud

Tengo una corazonada Madrid 2016
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Old September 28th, 2009, 12:49 AM   #5707
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You did, but I won't explain how...and congratulations on your 5 languages. Anyone else want to brag about something?
I don´t have to brag anything... Maybe only the fact that I know Brazil´s capital is not Rio de Janeiro!! looks like very difficult to know this for some people.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 01:11 AM   #5708
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Honestly, I think we should stop speculating and wait for the result on the 2nd.

Of course I'd love Brazil to host the Olympics, but what if we don't? At least we have the 2014 WC to host.

Oh and shame on you JRQ, apparently you don't know anything about the world outside your country, do you? Not every country speaks English and you should be glad there are so many other foreigners that speak it. It's ridiculous to point out English mistakes of people whose English isn't the native tongue.

WeimieLvr: Portuguese cannot be compared to English and that's exactly the point, I don't know why you're attacking the Portuguese language.

I give credit for the effort; however, I would rather see someone speak properly in their own language than butcher another. This is my point. I speak Spanish as well, however I know it is not my strong point. Instead of looking ridiculous and and completely ruining the language, I would rather speak in English. No one is forcing any member from Brazil to speak in English. So if you can't, don't.

TEBC, no, you have nothing to brag about. Correct you are, for once. We all know the Capitol city of Sao Paulo is the largest city in Brazil, and would have been a great Olympic host itself. I love reading up on other facts on how Sao Paulo completely dominates Brazil in most areas.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #5709
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I don´t have to brag anything... Maybe only the fact that I know Brazil´s capital is not Rio de Janeiro!! looks like very difficult to know this for some people.
There you go again...trying to make someone else look bad. I'm pretty sure that anyone in this forum knows the capital of Brazil - it's not rocket science...and it's not like Brazil is some obscure nation that most people know nothing about.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:08 AM   #5710
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There you go again...trying to make someone else look bad. I'm pretty sure that anyone in this forum knows the capital of Brazil - it's not rocket science...and it's not like Brazil is some obscure nation that most people know nothing about.
Well, the news source did flame this whole discussion. And to those who're yet to know it (I know there're more of them around here), it's called BRASÍLIA
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:12 AM   #5711
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Rio already hosted the 2007 Pan Am Games. The 2014 FiFa WC is coming up in the next few years. Wait until 2020 or 2024 for the Olympics. Don't be too greedy. After all, Rio is still a poor city. It should not try to handle many major world events in a short time span.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:20 AM   #5712
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haha, I find it funny how a lot of Brazilians are butthurt over the fact that some newspaper said Rio was their capital city.

The Brazilian press is pretty dumb too! A lot of them don't even know the difference between the U.K. and England.

Whenever a list of countries shows up in a Brazilian newspaper or magazine(e.g. GDP rank, exports, literacy etc), its England, not the UK that shows up. I have even heard stupidities like "the English Prime Minister Gordon Brown".
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:24 AM   #5713
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Lula demands South America, Africa support for Rio 2016 bid

(AFP) – 1 hour ago

PORLAMAR, Venezuela — Brazil president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva on Sunday pleaded with South American and African International Olympic Committee (IOC) delegates to throw their votes behind Rio's campaign to stage the 2016 Olympics.

Ahead of the IOC vote on the host city, which will take place in Copenhagen on Friday, Lula told a South American-African political summit here: "I'd like to ask your delegates in the IOC to vote for Rio de Janeiro on October 2 which would bring the Games to the South American continent for the first time."

Rio faces competition from Chicago, Madrid and Tokyo in the race for the 2016 Olympics with 100 delegates due to vote on Friday.

"Brazil is the only great world economy never to have staged the Olympics. South American has never organised the Olympics and in Latin America, only Mexico has staged the Games in 1968.

"This cannot be a privilege reserved for the rich nations."

IOC president Jacques Rogge has predicted that Friday's vote "will be very tight" and will come down to "a few votes".
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This guy is such a jerk!! Stop blaming rich countries and blue eyed people (which I happen to be one and am very offended over) for everything and start finding your own way in the world!! It's not our fault you haven't developed as fast as we have! These kinds of people really make me angry, he's going to try to play the guilty card just to win! Yet, this is an INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION! Should we just give all Brazilian athletes gold medals too?? Forget the Olympic games, it doesn’t matter who wins! Why do we even bid for the best city? They can just give the games to any city out there....
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:37 AM   #5714
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Lula is really getting crass. Sorry, but Brazil is entitled to nothing just because they don't have a high PCI anymore then the U.S. "deserves" the games for having a high PCI. If it is important it should be a determination that delegates make for themselves. He would be best to keep the populist talk for his domestic constituents.

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I give credit for the effort; however, I would rather see someone speak properly in their own language than butcher another. This is my point. I speak Spanish as well, however I know it is not my strong point. Instead of looking ridiculous and and completely ruining the language, I would rather speak in English. No one is forcing any member from Brazil to speak in English. So if you can't, don't.

TEBC, no, you have nothing to brag about. Correct you are, for once. We all know the Capitol city of Sao Paulo is the largest city in Brazil, and would have been a great Olympic host itself. I love reading up on other facts on how Sao Paulo completely dominates Brazil in most areas.
Sorry dude, that is f'n arrogant. I appreciate the effort of someone attempting to communicate outside their comfort zone. These are international forums and it is best not to try to have cross conversations in different languages if we can help it and not discourage people away it. Beggars can't be choosers unless you are willing to communicate in the others language you are the beggar. There is nothing sacrosanct about a language that one need worry about butchering as the worst that can happen is that someone else can't understand you. If they are that hard to understand then just move on and don't read their post.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:41 AM   #5715
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Onn, don't be mad.

He is just another Latin-America commie. This is very typical of him, in fact it is a very bad part of Latin-American culture: we tend to blame everyone but ourselves for our problems and cultivate poverty as a merit.
Just look at Hugo Chavez, Morales etc.

I mean, just look at the arguments used by most Brazilians: BAAAAAWWWW, ITS OUR TURN NOW, BAAAAAWWW
Its like someone with no qualifications applying for a job and saying he deserves it because he never had one and its his turn now.

But please don't go thinking that we are all like that. Oh, you have no idea how lucky your country is for not having a victim's complex and a socialist mentality enrooted in your people.

Thank god the presidential elections are coming up in 2010 already, hopefully we will get rid of him
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #5716
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Why rio? Did u click on the link to read the whole article?
I read the whole article and it still doesn't make sense. There a not 230,000 arab-americans living in the city of Chicago. Maybe in the whole country, but not within the actual borders of Chicago. Which probably explains why they don't get more city jobs, since you have to live in the city to get those jobs. And.......as far as immigrants are concerned.....Arab-Americans are at the top.....when it comes to economic success and assimilation in Chicago. There isn't a giant Arab-American ghetto or anything like that. Theres no reason to complain.

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Old September 28th, 2009, 03:07 AM   #5717
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Onn, don't be mad.

He is just another Latin-America commie. This is very typical of him, in fact it is a very bad part of Latin-American culture: we tend to blame everyone but ourselves for our problems and cultivate poverty as a merit.
Just look at Hugo Chavez, Morales etc.

I mean, just look at the arguments used by most Brazilians: BAAAAAWWWW, ITS OUR TURN NOW, BAAAAAWWW
Its like someone with no qualifications applying for a job and saying he deserves it because he never had one and its his turn now.

But please don't go thinking that we are all like that. Oh, you have no idea how lucky your country is for not having a victim's complex and a socialist mentality enrooted in your people.

Thank god the presidential elections are coming up in 2010 already, hopefully we will get rid of him
I don't think most Brazilians are like that at all, politicians just make me angry. I don't mean to single out Lula, our politicians do it too sometimes. But I don't like it when he starts blaming people because of who they are. So, I'm blue eyed? Does that mean I had anything to do with problems that some western countries caused in South America in earlier times? My blue eyes come from an equally poor and pushed around country in Europe, just like many South American countries.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 03:22 AM   #5718
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Lula is really getting crass. Sorry, but Brazil is entitled to nothing just because they don't have a high PCI anymore then the U.S. "deserves" the games for having a high PCI. If it is important it should be a determination that delegates make for themselves. He would be best to keep the populist talk for his domestic constituents.



Sorry dude, that is f'n arrogant. I appreciate the effort of someone attempting to communicate outside their comfort zone. These are international forums and it is best not to try to have cross conversations in different languages if we can help it and not discourage people away it. Beggars can't be choosers unless you are willing to communicate in the others language you are the beggar. There is nothing sacrosanct about a language that one need worry about butchering as the worst that can happen is that someone else can't understand you. If they are that hard to understand then just move on and don't read their post.
In all honesty, I will not sit back and let select Rio forumers bash Chicago, U.S. forumers, etc, and not do something about it. Everyone else may, but I will not. When we have several Rio forumers constantly harass and complain about an ARTICLE from a news source that secondcity had nothing to do with? Honestly, chill out. If they will stoop to that level of rudeness, so will I. If you're going to bitch him out, then do it in proper English, or don't post at all. Just shows the lack of intellectual quality on their part. So to sum it up, I'm not arrogant, just defensive towards rude behavior by select Rio forumers.
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I read the whole article and it still doesn't make sense. There a not 230,000 arab-americans living in the city of Chicago. Maybe in the whole country, but not within the actual borders of Chicago. Which probably explains why they don't get more city jobs, since you have to live in the city to get those jobs. And.......as far as immigrants are concerned.....Arab-Americans are at the top.....when it comes to economic success and assimilation in Chicago. There isn't a giant Arab-American ghetto or anything like that. There's no reason to complain.
Precisely, the numbers and accusations in that article just don't seem to ring true. From what I know the majority of Arabs as far as I know live in the southwest burbs for one thing. Any article that is "Zionist this Zionist that" should raise a few eyebrows. It is highly ironic that he wrote the piece in a journal from a nation and region that truly treats migrant workers and ex-pats like absolute garbage. Looking at the front page of that rag pub it looks like a Saudi version of Fox News on crack.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 03:25 AM   #5720
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Rio already hosted the 2007 Pan Am Games. The 2014 FiFa WC is coming up in the next few years. Wait until 2020 or 2024 for the Olympics. Don't be too greedy. After all, Rio is still a poor city. It should not try to handle many major world events in a short time span.
No, it isn't that poor city.

The problem is the segregation and socioeconomic inequalities. That's one of the reasons to the Olympics being held here, to make some social improvements.
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