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Old October 2nd, 2009, 04:24 AM   #6221
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yeah i hate to break it to you, but London has never hosted them before. NEVER!!! tell me the years it hosted them. What is the IOC gonna prefer a world class city in a continent which hosted the olympics recently, and hosted it before in the 60's as well, and can hardly house its own citizens?, not to mention traffic is already horrible over there, and the infrastructure is inflated beyond belief. Chicago has never hosted the cities, it is a world class city, very beautiful, and has little traffic, great infrastructure, and is very capable.
1908 and 1948 - London hosted the Olympics.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 04:38 AM   #6222
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Alphonse Gabriel "Al" Capone (January 17, 1899 – January 25, 1947) was an American gangster who led a crime syndicate dedicated to smuggling and bootlegging of liquor and other illegal activities during the Prohibition Era of the 1920s and 1930s.

Born in Brooklyn to Southwestern Italian immigrants Gabriele and Teresina Capone, Capone began his career in Brooklyn before moving to Chicago and becoming the boss of the criminal organization known as the Chicago Outfit – though his business card reportedly described him as a used furniture dealer.[1]

Although he was never successfully convicted of racketeering charges, Capone's criminal career ended in 1931, when he was indicted and convicted by the federal government for income-tax evasion.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 04:39 AM   #6223
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 04:51 AM   #6224
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 04:56 AM   #6225
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Dude. You obviously haven't done any research what so ever. WOW! One question for ya. Who is Juan Antonio Samaranch? Better yet. Who is Jacques Rogge?
haha sorry i actually admit that was my mistake i looked at wikipedia and rushed through the years focusing on the last years and didnt see it so i assumed it didnt get them, anyway it still hasnt had them for 60 years, while tokyo had its last 40 years ago
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:04 AM   #6226
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:05 AM   #6227
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haha sorry i actually admit that was my mistake i looked at wikipedia and rushed through the years focusing on the last years and didnt see it so i assumed it didnt get them, anyway it still hasnt had them for 60 years, while tokyo had its last 40 years ago
Just do your research next time man. WOO HOO! GET DRUNK!!!!!
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:10 AM   #6228
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Those are awesome pictures!!
I cannot sleep thinking about tomorrow.. go riooo
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:14 AM   #6229
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1908 and 1948 - London hosted the Olympics.
i already acknowledged it
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:23 AM   #6230
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:58 AM   #6231
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Just do your research next time man. WOO HOO! GET DRUNK!!!!!
regardless i still hold my position on CHicago, it should get the olympics and when it does i will get drunk
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:00 AM   #6232
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Obama Heads To Denmark To Lobby For 2016 Olympics
| 10/ 1/09 07:02 PM |



WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is on his way to Denmark to help his adopted hometown of Chicago try to land the 2016 Summer Olympic Games.

Obama departed the White House on Thursday evening for an overnight flight to Copenhagen.

On Friday, he and first lady Michelle Obama are scheduled to make presentations before members of the International Olympic Committee, which will choose a host for the 2016 Games.

The Obamas' hometown of Chicago is competing against Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro and Madrid.

Mrs. Obama arrived in Copenhagen on Wednesday and has met with several IOC members.

The president is scheduled to return to the White House on Friday afternoon.

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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:12 AM   #6233
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Its between Rio and Chicago with Rio being the Slight favourite.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:13 AM   #6234
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Does anyone know the exact time its going to be announced? Lawl.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:27 AM   #6235
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US Eastern time
2h45 to 3h55 - Chicago's Presentation
4h25 to 5h35 - Tokyo's Presentation
6h05 to 7h15 - Rio's Presentation
8h45 to 9h55 - Madrid's Presentation

10h - IOC Committee of Avaliation's Presentation

11h10 to 11h40 - Voting

12h30 - Winner's Announcement

13h30 to 14h30 - Press Conference
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:40 AM   #6236
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US Eastern time
2h45 to 3h55 - Chicago's Presentation
4h25 to 5h35 - Tokyo's Presentation
6h05 to 7h15 - Rio's Presentation
8h45 to 9h55 - Madrid's Presentation

10h - IOC Committee of Avaliation's Presentation

11h10 to 11h40 - Voting

12h30 - Winner's Announcement

13h30 to 14h30 - Press Conference
Channel? on directv perhaps?
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:48 AM   #6237
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Olympics bids out of control — againBy Lee Benson

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Published: Thursday, Oct. 1, 2009 9:21 p.m. MDT


It's been 14 years since Salt Lake City won the 2002 Winter Olympics and 11 years since the investigation into Salt Lake's tactics resulted in 50 new rules for bidding cities, including the elimination of visits to bid cities by IOC voting delegates.

So if reforms were instituted and sanity was restored, just one question:

Why have each of the four cities bidding for the 2016 summer Olympics outspent Salt Lake's bid budget by more than five to one?

In 1995 Salt Lake spent $6.3 million to get the Olympics.

Adjusted for inflation, $6.3 million equates to $9.1 million in today's dollars.

And yet, Chicago, Rio, Tokyo and Madrid — one of which will be awarded the 2016 summer Games in a vote today in Copenhagen — have each spent $50 million or more on their respective bids.

And on what?

Salt Lake's budget had to not only cover expenses for meeting IOC delegates here and abroad, but also the costs of those infamous university scholarships for IOC relatives — none of which is allowed any more.

That must be some multimedia presentation they're going to give today in Denmark.

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Chicago — America's choice for 2016 — had already spent $48 million on its bid by Aug. 19. By the time the final accounting is in, factoring in expenses of President Barack Obama's visit to Copenhagen, no one will be surprised if Chicago spends the entire $77 million it raised through private donations.

That would be 12 times what Salt Lake spent just 14 years ago.

Clearly, the more the Olympic bidding process changes, the more it spins out of control.

Obama's visit is the first by a U.S. president to an IOC vote in history. He'll be joined by the king of Spain, the president of Brazil and the prime minister of Japan.

Yesterday it was scholarships and salt water taffy; today it's one-on-ones with heads of state.

Obama's charisma is expected to greatly help Chicago's cause, particularly with the 16 votes up for grabs from Africa.

In 1995, Salt Lake got almost all the African votes. Much of the success was attributed to charismatic lobbying by Utah businessman Bennie Smith, an African-American. (And OK, those scholarships might have also had something to do with it.)

The African votes helped Salt Lake get 54 votes out of 92 possible in the first round of voting. The majority total resulted in a rare opening-round victory.

For America today, it could be deja vu all over again. Obama's appearance might make the difference.

In a just and equitable world, however, Chicago wouldn't get the 2016 Games. Rio de Janeiro would. That's because no city in Central America or South America has ever hosted an Olympics.

America, on the other hand, has hosted the Olympics eight times, counting winter and summer. Japan has had the Games three times and Spain held the summer Olympics as recently as 1992.

It remains to be seen who will prevail in today's vote in Copenhagen. But whoever it is, Salt Lake can say it spent a lot less per vote. Heck, we bought them for a fifth of what these guys are paying.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...l-2-again.html
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:54 AM   #6238
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The Smart Choice for Olympic Host

By CONSTANTINE COURCOULAS and GEORGE HAY
Published: October 1, 2009

Will it be Chicago, Madrid, Rio de Janeiro or Tokyo? The grandees of the International Olympic Committee will announce the location of the 2016 Summer Olympics on Friday evening in Copenhagen. But in this contest, most of the bidders stand to lose more than they stand to gain.

The benefits of hosting the event include jobs, investment, a rise in tourism and a facelift for city and country. Even so, Olympic investments rarely pay off.

Look at Athens. Greece spent around 9 billion euros ($13 billion) “bringing the games back home” in 2004. That’s about 4 percent of gross domestic product, money that might have been put to better use later. Politicians are now bickering about whether the country can afford an economic stimulus package of similar size.

True, the new transportation system in Athens is more than welcome, as the regeneration of east London for the 2012 Olympics will be. But the Greek capital now has more stadiums than it can use. In fact, the Olympics have often lost money and left host cities with the wrong sorts of infrastructure.

That said, most of the 2016 contestants are making an effort to keep the cost of the Olympics reasonable, though history suggests that parsimony in bidding is usually a distant memory when the closing ceremony comes around.

Chicago’s bid, which has lured the president and first lady to Copenhagen, promises to finance the games entirely in the private sector. Madrid claims that close to 80 percent of its buildings are either built or under construction, limiting its further outlays. And Tokyo says its investment in environmentally friendly structures will reap future dividends.

Meanwhile, Rio de Janeiro’s $14.4 billion bid towers above the rest in terms of cost. Oddly enough, though, it probably also makes the most economic sense, even though the required public investment in transportation and security will add significantly to the expense.

Brazil has a developing commodity-driven economy that has done relatively well despite the global slowdown. Its debt has recently been accorded investment grade status. And it’s a populous place: the Olympics would only cost 1 percent of G.D.P.

Rio itself is a fast-growing city whose infrastructure could do with an Olympic upgrade. It needs the event more than the others. And Brazil would be better able to absorb the cost, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/bu...a/02views.html
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:56 AM   #6239
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In a just and equitable world, however, Chicago wouldn't get the 2016 Games. Rio de Janeiro would. That's because no city in Central America or South America has ever hosted an Olympics.

America, on the other hand, has hosted the Olympics eight times, counting winter and summer. Japan has had the Games three times and Spain held the summer Olympics as recently as 1992.http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...l-2-again.html
Great article, and the spending is out of control. 50-100 million can go a long way to some vital services in cities like Chicago, Rio, or Madrid.

The last two lines lost me though. Are we saying all the nations and cities have to host a games before they get a second turn? Loony idea of "fair" and just.
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Published: Thursday, Oct. 1, 2009 9:21 p.m. MDT


It's been 14 years since Salt Lake City won the 2002 Winter Olympics and 11 years since the investigation into Salt Lake's tactics resulted in 50 new rules for bidding cities, including the elimination of visits to bid cities by IOC voting delegates.

So if reforms were instituted and sanity was restored, just one question:

Why have each of the four cities bidding for the 2016 summer Olympics outspent Salt Lake's bid budget by more than five to one?

In 1995 Salt Lake spent $6.3 million to get the Olympics.

Adjusted for inflation, $6.3 million equates to $9.1 million in today's dollars.

And yet, Chicago, Rio, Tokyo and Madrid — one of which will be awarded the 2016 summer Games in a vote today in Copenhagen — have each spent $50 million or more on their respective bids.

And on what?

Salt Lake's budget had to not only cover expenses for meeting IOC delegates here and abroad, but also the costs of those infamous university scholarships for IOC relatives — none of which is allowed any more.

That must be some multimedia presentation they're going to give today in Denmark.

Story continues below
Chicago — America's choice for 2016 — had already spent $48 million on its bid by Aug. 19. By the time the final accounting is in, factoring in expenses of President Barack Obama's visit to Copenhagen, no one will be surprised if Chicago spends the entire $77 million it raised through private donations.

That would be 12 times what Salt Lake spent just 14 years ago.

Clearly, the more the Olympic bidding process changes, the more it spins out of control.

Obama's visit is the first by a U.S. president to an IOC vote in history. He'll be joined by the king of Spain, the president of Brazil and the prime minister of Japan.

Yesterday it was scholarships and salt water taffy; today it's one-on-ones with heads of state.

Obama's charisma is expected to greatly help Chicago's cause, particularly with the 16 votes up for grabs from Africa.

In 1995, Salt Lake got almost all the African votes. Much of the success was attributed to charismatic lobbying by Utah businessman Bennie Smith, an African-American. (And OK, those scholarships might have also had something to do with it.)

The African votes helped Salt Lake get 54 votes out of 92 possible in the first round of voting. The majority total resulted in a rare opening-round victory.

For America today, it could be deja vu all over again. Obama's appearance might make the difference.

In a just and equitable world, however, Chicago wouldn't get the 2016 Games. Rio de Janeiro would. That's because no city in Central America or South America has ever hosted an Olympics.

America, on the other hand, has hosted the Olympics eight times, counting winter and summer. Japan has had the Games three times and Spain held the summer Olympics as recently as 1992.

It remains to be seen who will prevail in today's vote in Copenhagen. But whoever it is, Salt Lake can say it spent a lot less per vote. Heck, we bought them for a fifth of what these guys are paying.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...l-2-again.html
I love this article! I loved Salt Lake 2002!
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