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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:16 AM   #6301
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I do think the brazilian committee HAS something beneath their sleaves... I'm expecting nothing less than OUTSTANDING from their presentation, in which they've been working and rehearsing for the last two months! It will include, among other things, a short film directed by renowned brazilian filmmaker Fernando Meirelles, who's films been nominated to the Academy Awards several times! The olny thing I'm really worried, like colleague TEBC said, is Lula's speach. Hope he doesn't say anything stupid
I've felt for a while now that Chicago had the edge and Rio would have to win it in their final presentation by doing such a great job that the voters are left thinking, "how can we not take the games to Rio." I've seen Fernando Meirelles' work and think he's fantastic so I expect great things from the videos.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:18 AM   #6302
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Yes. Los Angeles.



I liked the videos with the people, but I thought it lacked that one great image. I would have killed for one of the video to finish with a medal ceremony at Millennium Park, then zooming out to see how great the park looks, then the skyline behind it.
Chicago presententions began here at 3:45, Rio only at 7.. and the announcement only at 13!! I will take some red bulls to stay awake!!

What would be a great and emotional video: American olympic champions doing things around the city!! Like Shawn Jhonson helping an old lady cross the street, Michael Jhonson playing basketball with kids, Soldier Field Full of people, Phelps doing something too.. would be great.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:23 AM   #6303
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Here comes Tokyo...
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:27 AM   #6304
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That is funny because I though they didn't play up the diversity in the videos as much as they might or could. Those shots are selective shooting, Chicago is one of the most diverse nations by both race and ethnicity in the world.

I am guessing that Rio will play up their racial diversity with their selection of people photos/video.
I don´t think so, Rio is more mixed culture than Sao Paulo for instance, Sao Paulo is really multicultural. Even though it is possible that Rio will use the Black/White/Coloured/Indigenous people. There are not many Indigenous in Rio´s people but they are very brazilian "brand" so it may be used.
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I know he is a very busy guy but considering how committed he has been to Rio's bid and for diplomacies own sake I am a bit surprised he hasn't tried to take some crash course English lessons over the last few years. It would be a skill that would serve him well beyond this event.

I'm glad that Madrid is going last to be honest.
The president of Brazil - and I'll say that with all the applicable courtesy, is an ignorant. He was born very poor, never graduated college, worked as a lathe before coming into politics. He doesn't have the "smarts" to take a high-league intellectual position, nor ever will, I think. But he's a charismatic figure, VERY MUCH. And has a sense of what's good and what's not, what's fair and what's not, and the most important thing, he's REALLY committed to the people's cause and the nation's interests, in every decision he makes, almost "altruistically" (not so much, though). For the technical sides, he has an excellent team of advisors who help his decision making...

Haven't that said, for more he'd be willow to learn even javanese to help the bid (and he "indeed" speaks english), he would do and does it very primarily and without elegance, it just looks bloody awkward and there's a big chance he'll end up compromising himself.

So, for that matter, I think is more appropriate for him to talk in the language of his knowledge and experience and doing it beautifully and with soul and excitement than trying to deliver something he's not. I at least hope he follows that path, ‘cause no one knows what they're preparing, though, ultimately, it would be nice to conciliate both aspects...
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All of the members of Tokyo's delegation are in uniform. Those on stage, with one exception, all have uniform (albeit different uniforms for men and women) and each member not on stage have their own matching uniform.

It's actually a bit disconcerting, as if an army is marching in.
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They started very well with this girls discurse.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:32 AM   #6308
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I can hardly understand what he is saying!!!
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:33 AM   #6309
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There wasn't much I will take from the opening speech by the girl, but it did a good job of setting the tone of the presentation.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:34 AM   #6310
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He is so boring!!
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:34 AM   #6311
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English lessons to IOC members...

Seriously
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:36 AM   #6312
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I already don't want to vote for Tokyo if I'm an IOC member.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:39 AM   #6313
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Is he that new and weird prime minister they've just ellected??
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:43 AM   #6315
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It would help with these presentations if they were allowed to dim the lights. It looks like they are speaking in a university lecture hall.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:45 AM   #6316
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great video though
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:48 AM   #6317
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Great video. Maybe Tokyo could do an hour and 10 minutes of video as their presentation?
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:49 AM   #6318
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"Japanese are not good in showing their emotions!!"
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I'm liking very much the whole japanese-feelings thought! It's a reality, and it's approach is a display of commitment and openness

Liked the video very much! The music could be better
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Video was ok. Both Chicago and Tokyos videos have been too clinical and faux-drama for my taste. Mediocre music to go with both as well.
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