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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:14 PM   #6361
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Impressive speaking from this second speaker, especially when you take into account that English is his second language. Where was this type of speaking from Tokyo?
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:16 PM   #6362
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:17 PM   #6363
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No shock there that they mention the games have never been in S. America. Specifically pointing out the number of games hosted by the US could be seen as taking a shot at the Chicago bid, which could hurt Rio's chances as it could be a sign of a lack of tact.
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OMG!! This video, just perfect!!!
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:19 PM   #6365
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How many more times I wonder they going to mention it hasn't been held in South American. I put the over/under at five.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:21 PM   #6366
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Smart or dumb I am not sure. Taking a direct shot at private finacing of the games.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:21 PM   #6367
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It's funy to see how most of you are talking as if it was only between Rio and Chicago. You should show a little more respect for the other bids, because you could get a great surprise at the end of the day, i hope so, because both, Rio and Chicago are showing themselves so arrogants and sure about them in the final election. Madrid and Tokyo are great cities, with great bids too. Rio is using a false feeling (victimism?) to win this race, and Chicago is using the Obama's figure to catch the attention. The others two are showing only what they are offering in terms of organization, technical viability..etc. Just get down a little bit please
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:23 PM   #6368
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Smart or dumb I am not sure. Taking a direct shot at private finacing of the games.
I don't think it was so smart to mention right off of the bat. Financially, Chicago presents the safest bet and biggest potential revenue and considering that Chicago is Rio's biggest threat, I'd have stayed away from money talk so early on or really, altogether.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:28 PM   #6369
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Why would Rio bring up television? Yes, you're up to #3, but the US is far and away #1 and with the TV rights for 2016 yet to be sold, a Chicago hosted Olympics would caused the TV money to skyrocket even further. They just put into the IOC members' heads Chicago's greatest strength.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:30 PM   #6370
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Great use of languages from Rio. English, French, Spanish and I assume we'll hear Portuguese before long as well.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:32 PM   #6371
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I'm liking VERY MUCH of Rio's presentation!

Overall, it's the best so far, IMO
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:34 PM   #6372
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A very technically sound presentation so far. They're doing very well to establish that part of their bid. There isn't much emotional or spiritual elements so I guess they're relying on bringing the games to S. America for the first time to cover that part.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:36 PM   #6373
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A very technically sound presentation so far. They're doing very well to establish that part of their bid. There isn't much emotional or spiritual elements so I guess they're relying on bringing the games to S. America for the first time to cover that part.
The emotional part is yet to come, with Meirelle's video, I think...
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:39 PM   #6374
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This woman athlete looks like she's angry as she speaks. Not that I think she is, but that's what it looks like.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:40 PM   #6375
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More applause for the speakers or committee members of the Rio bid than any other city's bid. Maybe a sign?
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:44 PM   #6376
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I really don’t get how you people can’t understand that (at least in theory) the Olympic movement is all about world integration through sports.

Of course the right to host the games should not be awarded to countries or cities which are not capable to handle them, but as long two cities, countries, continents, prove they can, it’s totally logic that they should be awarded to the one which hadn’t had the chance before.

Rio is not trying to compete with the US to say that we are stronger, richer, or that we are going to make more revenues, the Olympic Games shouldn’t be about that. They are just trying to show that Rio can make it to a good standard.

Everyone is already inclined to bring the games to Rio, so the committee is just trying to prove that they can handle it. They are not trying to compete with Chicago or any other candidate city, that would be just dumb.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:44 PM   #6377
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President Lula specifically taking shots at the other countries bidding. A poor move IMO and showing a lack of class. No other bid mentioned the other bids and some of its shortcomings. Everyone else focused only on their own bid and I with President Lula would as well.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:46 PM   #6378
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He is just saying other countries already hosted the olympics games, but Brazil didnt
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:46 PM   #6379
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I really don’t get how you people can’t understand that (at least in theory) the Olympic movement is all about world integration through sports.

Of course the right to host the games should not be awarded to countries or cities which are not capable to handle them, but as long two cities, countries, continents, prove they can, it’s totally logic that they should be awarded to the one which hadn’t had the chance before.

Rio is not trying to compete which the US to say that we are stronger, richer, or that we are going to make more revenues, the Olympic Games shouldn’t be about that. They are just trying to show that Rio can make it to a good standard.

Everyone is already inclined to bring the games to Rio, so the committee is just trying to prove that we they can handle it. They are not trying to compete with Chicago or any other candidate city.
Sorry, but bidding is a competition. It's proving why you can host the best games in comparison to the rest of the bidding countries. The city that could host the best games is the one that should host and while the amount of money one could generate is not in the spirit of the Olympic movement, to ignore it as a factor is foolish. Money always plays a part, rightly or wrongly.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:47 PM   #6380
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I think you're really taking out the worst side of the whole thing...
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