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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
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Old April 7th, 2005, 09:52 AM   #681
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Is it though, the rest of the world hates the arrogance of New Yorkers or americans who make stupid statements like 'the worlds second home' or 'capital of the world'. How is New York the cultural centre of the world?
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Old April 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM   #682
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^You guys do the same thing that you claim Americans do.
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Old April 7th, 2005, 10:49 AM   #683
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Does London have a slogan like the 'capital of the world'?

London is the city that proves those arrogant statements wrong.
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Old April 7th, 2005, 11:05 AM   #684
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No, but its posters believe that it is in their hearts. Anything London, anywhere on the stadium board is believed to be the best to your hearts. Only difference is that NY is not afraid to officially say what they feel. That video of Wembley sure wasn't afraid to proclaim it the best stadium in the world.
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Old April 7th, 2005, 11:09 AM   #685
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I take it you mean the London 2012 slogan 'sport at heart'. That really isn't the same, it means that sport is at the heart of the bid, and that Londoners are unbelievably passionate about sport. Its not quite the same as the whole city declaring itself 'capital of the world'.
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Old April 7th, 2005, 12:42 PM   #686
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If I remember rightly Paris has had it twice as well.
That's is right! But first time was in 1900 when there was maybe a dozen nations represented... and the last time was in 1924...
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Old April 7th, 2005, 01:02 PM   #687
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you forgot the most important: Brussels (belgium) or flanders in a 3-way host city(Gent-Antwerp-Brussels)
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Old April 7th, 2005, 07:53 PM   #688
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Delhia, India: The worlds 2nd most populous conntry, never an olympics held. I would love to see the games in such a foreign place then ive seen lately.
Delhi is hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2010, which will be a hugely useful indicator of its ability to host the Olympics...
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Old April 7th, 2005, 09:07 PM   #689
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Delhi is hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2010, which will be a hugely useful indicator of its ability to host the Olympics...
hahahaha delhi can hardly cope with commonwealth games asia will only get games after europe 2012 africa south america
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BID INDEX EARLY RESULTS /70

Minneapolis 62.6
Lisbon 64.89
Milan 60.46
Hamburg 64.36
Buenos Aires 66.25
St Petersburg 55.69
I'd love to see the Olympics in Buenos Aires. And it's doing pretty good so far!
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Old April 7th, 2005, 09:25 PM   #691
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St. Petersburg, Russia (According to Vice Governor, December 29, 2003)
St. Paul/Minneapolis, USA (According to August 7, 2003 Report)
I didn't realize these places had summer. I guess they're counting on a little global warming by 2016

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Old April 7th, 2005, 11:17 PM   #692
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Well if NYC doesnt win 2012 then it will be the Paris of 2016.
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We Americans aren't being arrogant when we call New York the cultural and economic center of the world. I never called New York the capital of the world, but you have to agree it is one of the most culturally diverse places on the planet. An Olympic games here in New York would appeal to everyone.
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Old April 8th, 2005, 10:28 AM   #694
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Just as it would in Madrid, Paris and London, even maybe Moscow.
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Old April 9th, 2005, 07:31 AM   #695
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Maybe in London, but Paris and Moscow? I don't think so.
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Paris, particularly, is a very diverse city. You only need to enter Paris on Eurostar to see how diverse the place really is (and grimy/rundown!).
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Old April 9th, 2005, 08:11 PM   #697
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so is it a good statement or a bad statement ?
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Old April 9th, 2005, 10:34 PM   #698
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Its generally a good statement, i'm saying that it is foolish to believe that New York appeals most to people, when it is against the likes of Paris and London, cities that i believe are just as diverse (and before some NYers come up with pages and pages of data - diversity is not all about numbers).

The mention of rundown areas relates to the sad fact that areas of large immigration are generally on the shabby side (and besides i didn't want to complement Paris too much being British )

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Old April 9th, 2005, 11:19 PM   #699
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Its generally a good statement, i'm saying that it is foolish to believe that New York appeals most to people, when it is against the likes of Paris and London, cities that i believe are just as diverse (and before some NYers come up with pages and pages of data - diversity is not all about numbers).

The mention of rundown areas relates to the sad fact that areas of large immigration are generally on the shabby side (and besides i didn't want to complement Paris too much being British )
ok, i take it as a complement then...i guess the feeling u get when u enter paris by eurostar is the same, me as a parisian i get when entering london by eurostar : the feeling of getting in a tottally different international and busy city !

The London waterloo environment and huge railways tracks are quite impressive (especially with all those advetisements for shows and theaters along the tracks) and also when going back to paris, the fact that the first paris monument you see from the Eurostar is the sacre-Coeur (and not he Eiffel Tower) has always made me happy, because sacré-coeur represents the multicultural northern part of paris, which i'm close to (whereas Eiffel tower sits in a posh southern paris area)...
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Old April 12th, 2005, 03:39 AM   #700
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If New York was given the Olympics, there is a distinct advantage to it. Money. I am not trying to gloat over the vast wealth of the U.S., but you have to know the U.S. will put as much money as possible to create a great Olympic games. With London and Paris, there are no guarantees that as much money as needed will be put forth.
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