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London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old May 26th, 2005, 12:01 PM   #1041
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those must be your personal votes, because there have been no voting, and if it was, i don't think you could know it.
To be a 'future bid chairman', you should be more impartial, and more carefull with the things you say. i hope, the IOC members are acting other way, if not, where is the olympic spirit?
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Old May 26th, 2005, 12:13 PM   #1042
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:01 PM   #1043
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Observo mucha prepotencia inglesa,... I´m sorry I don´t remember that you don´t know to speak spanish very well, you don´t worry you must read a dictionary spanisjh-english.

Viva Madrid!!!! Puxa Madrid!!! Visca Madrid!!! Gora Madrid!!! Go Madrid!!!!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:14 PM   #1044
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:15 PM   #1045
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:17 PM   #1046
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:22 PM   #1047
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #1048
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I also agree, I would like to hear some more about how New York will win the 2012 Olympics in a few weeks.
Yes, we have yet to read some positive reasons for New York to be the host. Maybe the New Yorkers are sick of the rest of the world, and the population is not really behind the idea. I voted for London for 2012.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 06:56 PM   #1049
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ok, to put some peace on this, and to keep the idea of the thread, it's obvious that nobody knows which city will get the games, because it's the opinion of the IOC members, and i'm sure that it's more than wich one is the 'richest', 'important', and all the things 'we' the forumers had said with passion about our cities. (sometimes too much passionated)
the five cities are more or less playing in the same league of world cities, actually, the differences are smaller, you can find almost the same things in paris, london, new york, madrid, and don't know in moskow, because i haven't been.
so, the question is about the project, nothing else. i like more three of them between the five, madrid, london and paris, in this order. i think madrid is an underrated city, with a great project, less known than the others, and should have the chance to proove it. that's why i said that london, new york and paris don't need the games ( i did'n say: don't deserve them, it's different) because are great cities, well known in all terms.
last thing to close the 'war' with englishkevin(please take this with humor) sorry if you can't understand my english, i try the best that i can, it's not my idiom, but, please, show more respect for a language wich talk more than 400.000.000 people in the world, some of them english who learned it at school
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Old May 26th, 2005, 07:11 PM   #1050
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so, the question is about the project, nothing else. i like more three of them between the five, madrid, london and paris, in this order. i think madrid is an underrated city, with a great project, less known than the others, and should have the chance to proove it. that's why i said that london, new york and paris don't need the games ( i did'n say: don't deserve them, it's different) because are great cities, well known in all terms.
If it's about the project than without being biased I truly think London has the best bid. It will have top world class facilities which are under construction now with some great world famous places such as Wembley and Wimbledon. Great transport links contrary to popular belief, and close to the centre of London. You say Madrid has a bid less known than the others and should be allowed to prove itself but that isn't a reason to have the olympics at all. All the cities will want to prove themselves so being less well known is not a reason to host the olympic games.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 07:21 PM   #1051
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I expect any of them to win but london, just to laugh off with sure English Kevin inteligent remarks
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Old May 26th, 2005, 08:07 PM   #1052
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In my opinion, Madrid has the best project.

Reasons:

-Madrid has the best public transport system, and the best conexion between the city center and the Olimpic village and stadium, in acordance with the time and with the km.

-Madrid in 2007 will have 277km of Metro and it is say that Madrid will have more than 330km of Metro in 2012. (only Metro, not Lights Rail systems)

-Madrid has the nearest airport to the Olimpic Village. (Barajas Airport, just some km from Olimpic Village and about 5 minutes by car)

-Madrid has the nearest Olimpic Village to the Olimpic Stadium. (not london, Madrid just 200 metres more or less, I mean, nearby)

-The Madrid´s project is the only one wich have more sports areas near the Olimpic Stadium and olimpic sports.

-Madrid has the best weather in July.

-Madrid has the best green project.

-Madrid has the bests supports out of all candidates cities: 90% of the population and all the regions and spanish institutions.

-Madrid has the cheapest project.

-Madrid has the 70% of the sport infranstructures built or under construction. (right now)

-Madrid is the only city in the world wich has 3 world championships in 2005 (and several european competitions).

-Madrid has the world record of visitors in a Master Series of Tennis (2004) and in a World Taekwondo Championship. (2005). Madrid and Spain is involved in sports more than other cities/countries.

-Madrid have right now 40.000 volunteers, and it is hope to get in 6th of July more than 60.000, the city with the most number of volunteers of the candidates.

-Madrid don´t have economic and ecologic problems (like Paris or London, were they have problems in the projects, with firms and ecological groups against the projects)

-Madrid city, spaniards, politics, institutions, firms, ... are all together involved in the project.

-Madrid don´t have "fisical" or "economic" problems as weakness points. The only problme that it has got is the Barcelona 92 (that 20 years between both, just a stupid problem if we compare the number of Olimpic Years of Paris and London).

-Madrid is the only big capital in Europe that hasn´t celebrated the Olimpic Games yet.

So, in brief, Madrid has the best project.

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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:04 PM   #1053
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It does sound like a good bid, but I don't think Madrid will get it, all due to Barcelona 92'. And July is a bit early for the games, isn't it?
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:15 PM   #1054
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ok, to put some peace on this, and to keep the idea of the thread, it's obvious that nobody knows which city will get the games, because it's the opinion of the IOC members, and i'm sure that it's more than wich one is the 'richest', 'important', and all the things 'we' the forumers had said with passion about our cities. (sometimes too much passionated)
the five cities are more or less playing in the same league of world cities, actually, the differences are smaller, you can find almost the same things in paris, london, new york, madrid, and don't know in moskow, because i haven't been.
so, the question is about the project, nothing else. i like more three of them between the five, madrid, london and paris, in this order. i think madrid is an underrated city, with a great project, less known than the others, and should have the chance to proove it. that's why i said that london, new york and paris don't need the games ( i did'n say: don't deserve them, it's different) because are great cities, well known in all terms.
last thing to close the 'war' with englishkevin(please take this with humor) sorry if you can't understand my english, i try the best that i can, it's not my idiom, but, please, show more respect for a language wich talk more than 400.000.000 people in the world, some of them english who learned it at school
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An entirely reasonable and sensible post Exciter . THe problem here is that I have picked up on foreign sarcasm and uncharitable remarks and responded in kind . They haven't liked it . If people don't want to be shot at they should be careful about what they and how they say it . Simple as that . If you want to fight then take the punches . If you don't - be reasonable . Makes sense doesn't it ? I also have a low tolerance for sarcasm and there is way too much of that here .

I think petty nationalism is tiresome but I can certainly do it if I'm provoked .

No to Madrid . Barcelona is too recent . The Spanish are being greedy . Paris is the most deserving competitor to London .
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:19 PM   #1055
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[QUOTE=Englishman]Sometimes it bothers me that our screen names and avatars are so similar.[/QUOTE
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Get over yourself martyrboy . I'm responding in kind not advocating another holocaust . Now take your pills , kiss a tree . press a wild flower and give my love to Bangladesh . Btw ......you're free to change your name and your avatar ..........if you're so affected .
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:23 PM   #1056
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In my opinion, Madrid has the best project.

Reasons:

-Madrid has the best public transport system, and the best conexion between the city center and the Olimpic village and stadium, in acordance with the time and with the km.

-Madrid in 2007 will have 277km of Metro and it is say that Madrid will have more than 330km of Metro in 2012. (only Metro, not Lights Rail systems)

-Madrid has the nearest airport to the Olimpic Village. (Barajas Airport, just some km from Olimpic Village and about 5 minutes by car)

-Madrid has the nearest Olimpic Village to the Olimpic Stadium. (not london, Madrid just 200 metres more or less, I mean, nearby)

-The Madrid´s project is the only one wich have more sports areas near the Olimpic Stadium and olimpic sports.

-Madrid has the best weather in July.

-Madrid has the best green project.

-Madrid has the bests supports out of all candidates cities: 90% of the population and all the regions and spanish institutions.

-Madrid has the cheapest project.

-Madrid has the 70% of the sport infranstructures built or under construction. (right now)

-Madrid is the only city in the world wich has 3 world championships in 2005 (and several european competitions).

-Madrid has the world record of visitors in a Master Series of Tennis (2004) and in a World Taekwondo Championship. (2005). Madrid and Spain is involved in sports more than other cities/countries.

-Madrid will have 40.000 volunteers in 6th of July, the city with the most number of volunteers of the candidates.

-Madrid don´t have economic and ecologic problems (like Paris or London, were they have problems in the projects, with firms and ecological groups against the projects)

-Madrid city, spaniards, politics, institutions, firms, ... are all together involved in the project.

-Madrid don´t have "fisical" or "economic" problems as weakness points. The only problme that it has got is the Barcelona 92 (that 20 years between both, just a stupid problem if we compare the number of Olimpic Years of Paris and London).

-Madrid is the only big capital in Europe that hasn´t celebrated the Olimpic Games yet.

So, in brief, Madrid has the best project.

Regards!
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I was with you until you stated that Madrid and Spain are more involved in sport that anyone else on the planet . Obviously your grip on reality is fleeting and inconsistent because that was an absolutely ridiculous statement to make .
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:28 PM   #1057
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Well Done Liverpool !

Congratulations Liverpool ! 3-0 down in the first half but still 5-time winners of The European Cup and now permanent holders . I think the nation is proud !
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Old May 26th, 2005, 10:24 PM   #1058
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Don't worry . We don't want to speak third world .
yeah.... sure.... madrid, Barcelona, Los Anegeles,miami, New York are the third world..... you're *******!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 10:45 PM   #1059
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Don't worry . We don't want to speak third world .
You're completely ignorant men, stop saying nonsense!
Moderators??? Where are y'all???

The battle is between Madrid and Paris! Got it?
Go Madrid 2012!!

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Old May 26th, 2005, 10:50 PM   #1060
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Madrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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