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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old June 25th, 2005, 04:56 AM   #1861
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Old June 25th, 2005, 08:36 AM   #1862
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"The International Olympic Committee has the honour of announcing that the 30th Olympic Summer Games in 2012 are awarded to the city of............" - Jacque Rogge.


That is what the IOC President will say on the stage.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 12:19 PM   #1863
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Madrid will get it.
You could be right.As long as Madrid eliminates the great obstacle that is Paris then it shouldn't be a problem.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 01:38 PM   #1864
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Peshu having ago at taking the piss.

and cphdude....the decision will be made in 11 days
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Old June 25th, 2005, 01:58 PM   #1865
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My musings on the matter:

#Moscow and Russia itself has bigger fish to fry than a circus like this plus they held it in 1980 already. Russia on the whole needs to build a decent middle class and forget about the sideshows. Come back to us when people truely have a voice and the GDP per head is at least double what they have currently.

#New York and the USA have held the Olympics already a bunch of times in the last 30 years. Winter and Summer. Give somebody else a go. Not to mention that their foreign policy has not exactly endeared it to the rest of the world's nations.

#Madrid, Spain held the Summer games in 1992. Too soon and no doubt the rest of the EU will be thankful it doesn't have to pour even more of their money into the Iberian Penisula.

#London, a truely global city. When you get tired of this place, you might as hang yourself off Tower Bridge. You can never get bored of the place. Last time it staged an Olympics was in 1948. They have it all in place and would do a simply superb job.

#Paris, again a wonderful city. I get the feeling Paris might win it too. Last held in Paris for the "Chariots of Fire" games in the 20's. The city itself is what practically every other city dreams that it could be. Bravo Napoleon!
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Old June 25th, 2005, 07:01 PM   #1866
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Only two US cities have hosted the olympics and those were LA and Atlanta, but never NYC.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 07:04 PM   #1867
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GO MADRID... WE ARE READY!!!

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Mediterranean Games Boost For Madrid 2012 – Greenpeace Supports Bid
Posted 12:39 pm ET (GamesBids.com)

Madrid 2012 hopes the Mediterranean Games which opened Friday in Almeria will boost Madrid 2012’s Summer Olympic Games.

The Mediterranean Games will feature more than 4,000 athletes from 21 countries bordering the Mediterranean. Europe has 14 countries taking part, Africa has five countries and Asia two.

Spain’s King Juan Carlos joined International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Jacques Rogge and former IOC President Juan Antonio Samaranch for the opening ceremony Friday and Madrid’s Mayor is also in Almeria.

Madrid 2012 bid organizers said, “the Spanish Olympic Committee counts on the success of this competition as an important guarantee to present to the IOC members who will decide the host city for the 2012 Olympic Games”.

Meanwhile Greenpeace is supporting the “100 per cent Renewable Energies” project of Madrid’s 2012 bid, which was included in its bid book.

Juan Lopez Uralde, Greenpeace Spain Executive Director said “the commitment of Madrid 2012 with renewable energies is taking shape” and that the “Madrid 2012 Preliminary Energetic Plan” document, “is a clear approach to the energetic efficiency and the renewable energies which marks a very good precedent”.

He added that he is sure the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games will involve “a great chance to definitely encourage clean energy in Madrid, in the whole Spain and also on a global level”.

Madrid’s Mayor Alberto Ruiz-Gallardon said that the city of Madrid “has formulated a long-term plan which gathers together high technology, investigation, development and innovation applied to the fight against climate change, energetic inefficiency and the massive utilization of limited resources”.

The plan is based on seven general criterions: own and nearby supply as the energy source, diversification of renewable sources, competitive edge and demonstration, distributed electricity generation, co-generation and district heating and cooling, minimum impact in the Olympic zone, and integration to the environment.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 07:47 PM   #1868
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Old June 25th, 2005, 08:14 PM   #1869
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WEll if the number of supporters which have an avatar in support has any affect, then we've got the games in the bag!
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Old June 25th, 2005, 08:46 PM   #1870
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#Moscow and Russia itself has bigger fish to fry than a circus like this plus they held it in 1980 already. Russia on the whole needs to build a decent middle class and forget about the sideshows. Come back to us when people truely have a voice and the GDP per head is at least double what they have currently.
just for stats.
City of Moscow:
Area: 1081 sq. km.
Population: 10,5mln
GDP PPP 2005 forecast: $290bln
GDP PPP per capita 2005 forecast: $27600
Registered unemployment 2004: 0,04%
Mobile penetration 2004: 150% (15mln subscribers of 10,5mln population)
Consolidated budget, expenditures, 2004: $15bln

ps. Moscow is away not richest region in Russia

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i still with my opnion that New York will eliminated first. then, fighting will be very unfair. it is highly possible that in final round will be madrid and moscow, because supporters of london and paris will vote for them to eliminate each other...
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #1871
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Only two US cities have hosted the olympics and those were LA and Atlanta, but never NYC.
Didn't St Louis also hold it in 1904?
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:38 AM   #1872
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between London and Paris i pick London
Parisian ppl just seem too boring, english are way more enthiastics about sports!
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:41 AM   #1873
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I just hope politics doesnt take over...

If it does...Paris will win...if it doesnt London will have a 50/50 chance of winning.

Our legacy is the best...and we got a 10 for ours.


Someone said our Olympic stadium is being built no matter what, yet ive seen to evidence supporting that.

I know just about every other venue is being built though, some as we speak.

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Rod Sheard, Principal of HOK Sport, the world's largest and most influential sports architecture practice, said: "London is creating a stadium that retains Athletics as its long-term primary sport and this has not been done in recent Olympic history.

"And they are creating a state-of-the-art stadium that is able to shrink or grow to meet the demands of the sport it will be built for."

"The ensuing decades will see stadia like London 2012's proposed Olympic Stadium."

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Australian Swimming gold medallist Grant Hackett said: "The interior design of the new Aquatic Centre in the east of London is fantastic.

"I was impressed by the outside visuals, but these new images are great - each competition pool has a spectator arena around it, which means there will be a great atmosphere for the events."

The Aquatics Centre will be built regardless of the result of London's bid and work on the site is already underway.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 02:12 AM   #1874
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These are the London Venues and their status...

Main Athletics Stadium - Approved

Aquatics Centre - Groundwork has Begun...Construction late 05 early 06

Hockey Stadium - Grounwork Begun...Construction 06

3 small Multi-Purpose Arenas - Approved...Not really sure about these, as two are to be moved to elsewhere in the UK after the games.

Wembley - Under Construction, Completion Early 2006

Velo Park - Approved, Will Be Built Regardless of Outcome

The O2 Arena - Under Construction, Opens 2007

ExCel - Completed

Greenwich Arena - Apporved, Will Only be Temporary

Royal Artillery Barracks - Completed

Weald Country Park - Approved, The Facilites used for mountain biking will be removed after games.

Hyde Park - Completed, The Facilites used for Triathlon will be removed after games.

Lords - Completed

Regents Park - Completed, Softball Field Will be Left after Games.

Broxbourne - Approved

Eton Dorney - Completed

Wimbledon - Completed (Retractable roof to be added to main court in a year or two)

Horse Gaurds Parade - Completed, Olympic Facilities will pe temporary.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 02:19 AM   #1875
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just for stats.
City of Moscow:
Area: 1081 sq. km.
Population: 10,5mln
GDP PPP 2005 forecast: $290bln
GDP PPP per capita 2005 forecast: $27600
Registered unemployment 2004: 0,04%
Mobile penetration 2004: 150% (15mln subscribers of 10,5mln population)
Consolidated budget, expenditures, 2004: $15bln

ps. Moscow is away not richest region in Russia

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i still with my opnion that New York will eliminated first. then, fighting will be very unfair. it is highly possible that in final round will be madrid and moscow, because supporters of london and paris will vote for them to eliminate each other...
Christ if your stats are right, that would mean the population of Russia (exluding Moscow) as 132,920,309 has an economy of roughly around 1,295,478,000,000! Or a GDP per capita (PPP) of around $9,746. Never knew there was such a drastic difference between the national average and Moscow's average - dread to think of the inequality!

Keep up with the developing Russia - you'll be a MEDC soon
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Old June 26th, 2005, 03:40 AM   #1876
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Christ if your stats are right, that would mean the population of Russia (exluding Moscow) as 132,920,309 has an economy of roughly around 1,295,478,000,000! Or a GDP per capita (PPP) of around $9,746. Never knew there was such a drastic difference between the national average and Moscow's average - dread to think of the inequality!

Keep up with the developing Russia - you'll be a MEDC soon
actually on Northern Ural average GDP PPP per capita is about $68000 in 2005
as I remember average OECD is about $28000...

average ppp in 2004 for entire federation is $9700.
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These are the London Venues and their status...

Main Athletics Stadium - Approved

Aquatics Centre - Groundwork has Begun...Construction late 05 early 06

Hockey Stadium - Grounwork Begun...Construction 06

3 small Multi-Purpose Arenas - Approved...Not really sure about these, as two are to be moved to elsewhere in the UK after the games.

Wembley - Under Construction, Completion Early 2006

Velo Park - Approved, Will Be Built Regardless of Outcome

The O2 Arena - Under Construction, Opens 2007

ExCel - Completed

Greenwich Arena - Apporved, Will Only be Temporary

Royal Artillery Barracks - Completed

Weald Country Park - Approved, The Facilites used for mountain biking will be removed after games.

Hyde Park - Completed, The Facilites used for Triathlon will be removed after games.

Lords - Completed

Regents Park - Completed, Softball Field Will be Left after Games.

Broxbourne - Approved

Eton Dorney - Completed

Wimbledon - Completed (Retractable roof to be added to main court in a year or two)

Horse Gaurds Parade - Completed, Olympic Facilities will pe temporary.
well well
but Moscow completed on 75%. and could host 2008 games if anything happens to Pekin...
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:19 AM   #1878
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Annual GDP isn't a major factor in choosing a country to host the games if China got them.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:25 AM   #1879
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y is everybody against new york? cmn u shud give the big apple a chance for the olympics...
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4623153.stm


Bomb targets Madrid Olympic venue
A bomb has exploded outside a sports stadium in the Spanish capital, Madrid, after a warning was given in the name of the Basque separatist group Eta.

No injuries were reported as a result of the car bomb which went off at 1700 GMT outside the Peineta sports stadium.

The venue is under construction as part of the Spanish capital's bid to host the 2012 Olympic Games.

The International Olympic Committee is due to announce the winner of the race in Singapore on 6 July.

Earlier this month, Eta said it was ending attacks on Spanish politicians.

The militants, who are fighting for an independent Basque nation in a northern region of Spain and parts of south-western France, have been blamed for more than 800 deaths since they began a campaign of violence in 1968.

Madrid faces competition from Paris, London, New York and Moscow to stage the 2012 games.



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