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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old June 26th, 2005, 01:11 PM   #1881
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well well
but Moscow completed on 75%. and could host 2008 games if anything happens to Pekin...
I wasnt bragging at what we had completed...

I was showing my fellow englishmen what the current status is of all the venues and what will happen to the facilities afterwards.

I was carrying on from my post before that...when I said...

"Someone said our Olympic stadium is being built no matter what, yet ive seen to evidence supporting that.

I know just about every other venue is being built though, some as we speak."
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Old June 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM   #1882
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Bomb targets Madrid Olympic venue
A bomb has exploded outside a sports stadium in the Spanish capital, Madrid, after a warning was given in the name of the Basque separatist group Eta.

No injuries were reported as a result of the car bomb which went off at 1700 GMT outside the Peineta sports stadium.

The venue is under construction as part of the Spanish capital's bid to host the 2012 Olympic Games.

The International Olympic Committee is due to announce the winner of the race in Singapore on 6 July.

Earlier this month, Eta said it was ending attacks on Spanish politicians.

The militants, who are fighting for an independent Basque nation in a northern region of Spain and parts of south-western France, have been blamed for more than 800 deaths since they began a campaign of violence in 1968.

Madrid faces competition from Paris, London, New York and Moscow to stage the 2012 games.



What shits!

ETA just wanted to spoil our bid

terrorist bastards...
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Old June 26th, 2005, 02:29 PM   #1883
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Peshu having ago at taking the piss.

and cphdude....the decision will be made in 11 days
Cool, i'll keep my fingers crossed for old london town
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Old June 26th, 2005, 03:51 PM   #1884
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My point about Russia/Moscow forgetting about wasting resources on hosting an Olympics games because there is massive inequalities in its society. They should be addressed first. The government should steer clear of these cynical diversions to keep peoples minds of the real issues. This is a classic ploy straight from the old Caesers in Rome. 'Give the people their circuses and bread and they won't want democracy!'

Russia should get unemployment down, inflation down, stability in the economy and improve peoples standards of living and sure we would love to bring the Olympics to Moscow someday. But not now.

Another point is Moscow has already staged it, in 1980 which is not that long ago. Why do they want it so soon. Give another country a go.

My personal gripe is visitors to Russia/Moscow have to go through so much trouble to just enter the country with that bizarre visa system they have where you need to be 'invited' to enter the country. A ridiculous beaureucratic hang-over from their Commie days. Why can't they just have a system where they just give you a stamp at the airport which gives you 30 days to visit like everywhere else in the world? Old Soviet states like Lithuania and Latvia have no problems at all. They tossed that system out the day the Hammer and Sickle came down.

Now if that is the sort of trouble you have to go to just entering the country how hard must it be to get anything else done in Russia, let alone stage something like an Olympics?
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:07 PM   #1885
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Not long now. I think Moscow/New York will be first out followed by Madrid and then it will be neck and neck between London and Paris.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:14 PM   #1886
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That i'm talking about. You views on Russia based on stereotypes and russophobic populistic statements. Nothing on facts and realities.

afair you live in Moscow...

anyway,

the visa problem is present everywhere, in Russia, UK, France, Spain, USA. you mistaken on this, being from first world. first world don't have visas between themself. but Russian, Chinese, Indians, Brazilians etc should have visa to visit first world, like second class people. and most probably you will not take this visa being just typical fun man. USA for example, regulary refuse without explanations. Of course you can spent some month in court until they will force them to give you visa, but olympic games will finished much early.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:24 PM   #1887
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ETA just wanted to spoil our bid

terrorist bastards...
It's shit isn't it. If London wasn't in the running I'd want MAdrid to win just to show ETa how pathetic they are.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 04:48 PM   #1888
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coth, look I care a great deal about Russia so don't take my negativity about this bid for the games the wrong way. I still have a 'Misha' from 1980 when I was last in Moscow for the games. So I know what you lot are capable of.

I just think they should be concentrating on getting other things in order first. Like 'Gross-National-Happiness' for its citizens.

Now as for the visa business, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, all former Soviet republics changed that situation as soon as they jumped ship from the USSR. Their citizens used to cop it from EU nations as well before they joined up, the USA, Canada and Oz as well but they still dropped the barriers. So why is it such an issue in Russia? I read a story of an English tourist in the 1890's who managed to cross Russia with only a library card from his local library in London to prove his id because he forgot to bring his passport. Pity things are not so laid back in Russia anymore.

Also from what you say the main reason is, because you guys get stuffed around from us because developed nations are worried about getting Russian economic migrants then you want to stuff us around back? Tit-for-tat style. That attitude is not going to go down so well when people have to vote for a city to host the games.

Look I don't mind paying a reasonable fee for a visa to be a tourist, but just some ridiculous system like they have in Russia is counter-productive and stops a lot of tourists from visiting. Russia stands to gain so much by opening its Iron Curtain to us decadant foreigners. Remember you have to compete to attract the tourists from other destinations and not make it so difficult only the most keen go.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:00 PM   #1889
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Vote for Olympics 2012(2)

This is the where the "Vote for Olympics 2012"thread continues because the other thread was way too big.

Begin of the old "Vote for Olympics 2012"thread

End of the old "Vote for the Olympics 2012"thread


Mods, where you sleeping? Please close the old thread. It's too big and the thread and the forum works slower.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:05 PM   #1890
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In the old thread there were 1110 voters including me, I voted Paris.
The results of the old poll were:

Madrid: 342
London: 280
New York: 206
Paris: 192
Moscow: 90

Have you changed you're opinion, or you just want to discuss further, go on.
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:07 PM   #1891
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Thread is too big and has to close, continue thread here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=228791

Mods, do you're jobs
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:12 PM   #1892
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NY:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=224078




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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:15 PM   #1893
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Paris:
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:18 PM   #1894
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Madrid:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217801




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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:20 PM   #1895
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Moscow:

No ssc thread found(didn't do my best to find one tough :p)



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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:22 PM   #1896
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London:

No ssc thread found(didn't do my best to find one tough :p)




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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:26 PM   #1897
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Well, which one should it be, post pics and make statements.
I would go for Paris because that's teh closest from my home so I can see some games
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:27 PM   #1898
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London!
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:44 PM   #1899
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Still London for me if you hadn't guessed from my avatar ! but i have steeled myself for a Parisian victory - its only 3hr by train if they get it

Viva Londres!!!
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Old June 26th, 2005, 05:44 PM   #1900
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@Soufian: here is the official spanish thread for Madrid 2012:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=217801
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