URUGUAY / ARGENTINA - FIFA World Cup 2030 bid

[Mojeda101]

Argentina will most likely host 75% of the World Cup as Uruguay only has one major stadium, but with the time until the World cup, they would most likely be able to build 3 more max, Argentina on the other hand could supply the others such as "El Monumental" and the newly renovated "La Plata" stadium, along with the new "Independiente" Stadium, maybe the new "Cordoba", and even "Racing Club" if they fix it up.

Others could possibly be "La Bombonera", it would most likely have been finished as they have 19 years until the World Cup. I say "Rosario" could also have a good chance, it's fairly big and in the time until the cup, it could have a new tray added. Several others have a chance, I will list all those that are worthy.

El Monumental Stadium(River Plate)
Unico De La Plata Stadium(Estudiantes)
Libertadores de América Stadium of Independiente(Independiente)
Colon de Santa Fe Stadium(Colon)
Estadio Presidente Juan Domingo Perón de Racing Club(Racing Club)
La Bombonera(Boca Juniors)
Gigante de Arroyito Stadium(Rosario Central)

These would most likely be the stadiums in the world cup along with the other 3 that Uruguay would contribute with.

[anref2001]

Originally Posted by Nort

In Tacuarembó are you crazy?!!

Yes I am crazy, but why not?
It will open the area

[Nort]

Tacuarembo has a very small population (like 25.000)

[sweet-d]

Originally Posted by RobH

Is 2026 too early for a bid then?

It's all very well staking a claim for 2030, but if a bid from outside Europe wins 2026, then you'd have to feel 2030 is set for Europe. In other words, pray USA doesn't bid for 2026, and bribe as many ExCo members as you can to scrap the rotation system!

Yeah can pray but the U.S. will most likely bid for 2026 maybe you should pray we Americans piss the world off some more so it will lower our chances for getting the 2026. We can do it you know look what we did in the last decade if we work really hard we can make the next decade even worse for the world.

[Jim856796]

if Uruguay and Argentina makes a real bid for the 2030 World Cup, what is proposed for the final venue? Centenario, Monumental, or some white elephant?

[Lord David]

It's gotta be Centenario for sure, purely for symbolic reasons. I would expect an upgrade to 80,000-90,000 just for the Centennial.

It should ideally be 5 stadiums in Uruguay, in 4-5 host cities, with 7 in Argentina in 7 host cities. This is 2030 we're talking about, population should surely boom in Uruguay and be significant enough by then.

[merope]

Originally Posted by TEBC

Dont forget that most of the cities from South of Argentina wouldnt be a good choice because it will be cold. The games are played during winter.

What did they do in '78? Was that an issue?

Originally Posted by Chimbanha

Come on. If South Africa can host a World Cup, so can Argentina....

Indeed. They proved they could more than thirty years ago.

Originally Posted by Bolsilludo

Don't underestimate the importance of both countries in the world football history. That's another important factor. Uruguay and Argentina have won 6 world cups!

4, not 6.

[TEBC]

Originally Posted by merope

What did they do in '78? Was that an issue?


Indeed. They proved they could more than thirty years ago.


4, not 6.

You cant compare WC from 70s with the WC now. The championship is much bigger and complex now, but still can think that Argentina can host it.

In 78 none of the cities that hosted was from the south of the country.

[merope]

Originally Posted by TEBC

You cant compare WC from 70s with the WC now. The championship is much bigger and complex now, but still can think that Argentina can host it.

Sure, but one successful WC is better than none! Whether or not it was smaller, they still did it. And while not as large as it is now, it was still a significant undertaking for a relatively poor nation.

Originally Posted by TEBC

In 78 none of the cities that hosted was from the south of the country.

Hence my question.

[_X_]

The Americas will get 2026 or 2030,but not both.

Everybody knows this

[bolsouru]

Uruguay should have 4 stadiums , two in montevideo and two in punta del este i dont think that any other city in all uruguay could be prepared for a world cup

[Lord David]

Make it 1 or 2 in Montevideo (with Centenario hosting the final) and 3 or 4 in 3/4 other cities.

The other 3/4 can be downsized post World Cup.

Argentina will put up the rest by having stadiums in 7 cities. Buenos Aires will host the opening, in either the existing Estadio Monumental (upgraded to 60,000+) or a new stadium.

[hngcm]

Originally Posted by _X_

The Americas will get 2026 or 2030,but not both.

Everybody knows this

Yup.

Europe and Asia can't bid for 2026 so it's almost guaranteed.

Then again I said the same thing about 2022...

[cornelinho]

logic...


as Europe and Asia can't bid for 2026 and Oceania having no potential hosting nation, South america would not have other bidders... Brazil can't bid arg&urg go for 2030 and the others are not wchosting material... that means that nourth america and africa will get 2026... the problem being that europe wil be eligible for 2030 and its more pisible tos see the 2030wc in europe then south america

[Nort]

I don´t think so ¿Spain? ¿england?

[Cirdan]

Originally Posted by cornelinho

logic...


as Europe and Asia can't bid for 2026 and Oceania having no potential hosting nation, South america would not have other bidders... Brazil can't bid arg&urg go for 2030 and the others are not wchosting material... that means that nourth america and africa will get 2026... the problem being that europe wil be eligible for 2030 and its more pisible tos see the 2030wc in europe then south america

I believe the anniversary may be a strong enough argument to get it.

I doubt the no-2-consecutive-times-in-America is true, btw, and it's definitely nothing "everybody knows". FIFA goes by continental organisations. Quatar and Russia will be way closer to each other than Argentina and the US would be.

[gonzabar_77]

For me

Buenos Aires (opening)
Córdoba
Rosario
Mendoza
Tucumán
Mar del Plata
Rivera-Maldonado
Punta del Este
Montevideo (final)

The most probable host cities.

[Cirdan]

This is roughly what I'd plan with:

Uruguay:

~60k Montevideo I (Centenario refurbished)
4 gs, incl opening match, R2, QF, SF
~40k Montevideo II (Gran Parque Central or new stadium)
4 gs, R2, 3rd place
~40k not Montevideo (new stadium, Salta, Melo, Las Piedras, Maldonado being options, depending on where they want to build the infrastructure - rail & road more than the actual stadium, which should have many temporary seats)
4 gs, R2

Argentina:
~80k Buenos Aires I (Monumental refurbished)
4 gs, R2, SF, F
~55k Córdoba (Mario Kempes refurbished?)
4 gs, R2, QF
~50k Buenos Aires II (La Bombonera refurbished or one of the many other stadia)
5 gs, QF
~40-55k Rosario (Colos del Parque refurbished or reconstructed)
5 gs, R2
~40-55k North (brand new stadium in Tucumán, Jujuy, Salta or Corrientes)
5 gs, QF
~45k Avellaneda (Independiente, possibly one of the others refurbished/reconstructed)
4 gs, R2
~40k La Plata (Unico)
4 gs, R2
~40k Mendoza (Malvinas Argentinas refurbished)
5 gs, R2


So that makes:

3 Uru stadiums, 8 in Argentina.

I'd give the opening match to Uruguay, not the final, partly because Argentina is the big partner, but also because I think it makes much more sense to have the "return to the origins" theme in the beginning of the tournament with the opening ceremony and all, and just concentrate on the football in the final.

2 groups, 3 2nd round matches, a quarter, a semi and the 3rd place match in Uruguay, meaning 18 of 64 matches, works well with 3 of 11 stadia. Slightly skewed towards knock-out matches, but then, Argentina gets the final.

I know the Argentinan stadia are skewed towards Buenos Aires with 2 stadia in the city, another in greater BA and one in La Plata, but that's where the big clubs are, and while they are in no condition to contribute to stadium construction now, I think they'll have to be involved in 6-8 years if the bid wants to stand a chance. If they aren't, we can replace Avellaneda with another northern stadium and Rosario with Santa Fe (provincial capital) and they'll probably leave out La Bombonera as well, after all it was never used for a big international tournament.

[Nort]

Punta del este!!

[MS20]

Only in football can we talk about events 20 years down the line.

It's hard to envisage what any of these countries will look like in two decades. What might seem a certainty now (and vice versa) may not by then. As always though its fun to speculate. Copa America will also have a considerable impact on how infrastructure looks like til that point. Personally, as unlikely as it might be now, I'd like to see Argentina co host with Paraguay, Chile or Bolivia.