Zamboanga City - "ASIA'S LATIN CITY"

[el palmesano]

it would have been great if the U.S. had not removed the Philippines to Spain. So Philippine would have the independence from Spain, and the U.S. could not destroy schools and would not have squandered the Hispanic culture. Surely, Philippines would be more united to Spain and Latin America

great city

[el palmesano]

Originally Posted by marlowe_cano

[CENTER]Zamboanga City Projects

oh!! the mayor is called llobregat, that is a river from barcelona, and "na" in catalan(lenguage from catalonia, balearic islands and valencia region in spain) is used
before a woman name, for example: na Maria, na Antonia, etc...

is possible an influence from catalan speakers??

[12jairien14]

Originally Posted by alheaine

i can only a bit understand.. i woke'up with Hiligaynon and English though..
but i had a crash'course in Spanish back in college a few years ago..

hahaha
atleast you know alittle though

Originally Posted by el palmesano

it would have been great if the U.S. had not removed the Philippines to Spain. So Philippine would have the independence from Spain, and the U.S. could not destroy schools and would not have squandered the Hispanic culture. Surely, Philippines would be more united to Spain and Latin America

great city

yeah
but i think some of the Spanish culture is still with us

Originally Posted by el palmesano

oh!! the mayor is called llobregat, that is a river from barcelona, and "na" in catalan(lenguage from catalonia, balearic islands and valencia region in spain) is used
before a woman name, for example: na Maria, na Antonia, etc...

is possible an influence from catalan speakers??

huwow really?
a river ha
hehehe
about the catalan, no idea
hehehe

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by èđđeůx

This is a beautiful city, and this is a nice thread.....minus the long paragraphs of spanish which I can't comprehend.

Hola Amigo! gracias for visiting this thread..
bdw amigo, we don't speak here Spanish but rather we speak here in "Zamboangueño Chavacano Language".;-)

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by alheaine

cheers from iloilo..nice thread..

gracias Alheaine!;-)

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by paul_radley

How are the sentences upon sentences of Spanish/Chavacano at all relevant? It's just taking up space...it's essentially spam.

favor ya lang usted visita aqui na este enlace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by 12jairien14

we are just showing our culture through our language

tupao gat tu!;-)jejejejeje
ta habla ellos que el Lenguaje es Cultura y Indetidad...

[12jairien14]

Originally Posted by marlowe_cano

Zamboanga City Projects

src

Cuando se hace este proyecto?

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by marlowe_cano

i don't remember any. but there are lots of musica en chabacano.. especially cancion por el amor!


By nature, Zamboangueños are romantic. Muy cariñoso y cariñosa!!!

Mapait! cosa ba yo puede habla? siempre! con verdad.... afavor gat yo na tu opinion!;-)

[Acer_Cyle]

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para con Jairen:

Proyectos del Ciudad Autonoma de Latina amboanga


este no hay pa gaja final decision si cuando pero siempre hay precura gat se el alcalde de aton para hace este realiza dentro na su termino.





este ya acaba ya...



este tambien ya acaba ya.



escuela este... ya acaba ya gaja este.

no hay yo idea si cuando con este hay construi,,;-)

[christos-greece]

Its really a beautiful and very nice indeed; some new photos will be nice, i think...

[Luis regio+tapatio]

Gracias por mostrarnos Zamboanga City/ thank you for showing us Zamboanga City it truly looks like a Latin american city I would say It looks a lot like any port in southwest Mexico, you are definatley our BROTHERS.

Keep your identity alive & VIVA Zamboanga City

[Acer_Cyle]

Originally Posted by Luis regio+tapatio

Gracias por mostrarnos Zamboanga City/ thank you for showing us Zamboanga City it truly looks like a Latin american city I would say It looks a lot like any port in southwest Mexico, you are definatley our BROTHERS.

Keep your identity alive & VIVA Zamboanga City

(Escribiendo Na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)

Muchas tambien por visita aqui na de nuestro hilo..;-)
si! verdad! pero el Ciudad Autonoma de Latina Zamboanga el mas latinamejica que el entero Filipino. no solamente por el de nuestra cultura sino por el idioma que nosotros ta conversa.

bueno, saludos mio a todos...
Acer_Cyle, un Latino Zamboangueño

[12jairien14]

Originally Posted by Luis regio+tapatio

Gracias por mostrarnos Zamboanga City/ thank you for showing us Zamboanga City it truly looks like a Latin american city I would say It looks a lot like any port in southwest Mexico, you are definatley our BROTHERS.

Keep your identity alive & VIVA Zamboanga City

Gracias, señor hermanos o debería decir que ...
Así que venga a visitarnos aquí!
Estaremos muy contentos si vendrá

[12jairien14]

[Acer_Cyle]

pasa pasa lang yo aqui. . .

ARCHITECT, THE TRUE BUILDER

We are so engrossed trying to foil the civil engineers into signing architectural documents which do not belong to them; we forget and ignore that construction, the other half of architecture, also belongs to us. It is a misconception that when we say construction and structural design of buildings, it is civil engineering.

Architectural Design is our legacy and nobody and no profession should mess on it. But we should not concentrate on design alone griping that we are invaded by aliens. There is not so much money in design anyway. It is in construction of buildings where we could rake big money. We have to put more emphasis in construction. In fact, an architect who only knows how to design and totally ignores its construction is only an artist or a paper architect. There are many prominent architects who affirm that construction belong to the civil engineers and not architectural in nature. It is a common understanding that when we think architecture, it is drawing of buildings only. That is why the civil engineers said that architects are “drawing lang ng drawing”.

Civil engineers have no expertise unlike the electrical, mechanical, chemical, sanitary and mining engineers and architects who are proficient in the design and execution of their callings. If there is,it has nothing to do with architecture for they don't have any single architectural subject in college.

The course of civil engineering in school is a preparation for them to work in the government after the board examination. The government is their kingdom. That’s the reason there are 90% civil engineers in the Dept. of Public Works and Highways nationwide, while the expert engineers and the architects comprise only 10%. They even hold the lowest position. Even in the most remote and undeveloped municipality, with a BPWH branch, is headed by a civil engineer. All government agencies like the DENR, DOJ, DOH and the like has at least one civil engineer employed to them. In RA 544 (Civil Engineering Law), a civil engineer cannot be punished for incompetence; but in RA 545(former Architecture Law), architects can be suspended or his licensed revoked if he is found incompetent. Unfair, yes, but government engineers do not necessarily be competent. Please see it for yourself.

It is a wrong notion to link construction and structural design to civil engineers. Architects are better constructor and structural designers of building. In my 4 decades as a construction man (construction draftsman and inspector, supervisor, project manager and area manager), I observe that in proportion, there are more constructing architects than the civil engineers especially in big construction companies. With 24,000 architects and 125,000 civil engineers or a 1 to 5 ratio, there are at least 3 architects to 5 civil engineers in the field of construction.

During my professional time, I worked with three U.S. agencies for a total of 9 ½ years, namely Getty Oil (6 years), USAID (2 ½ years) and Clark Air Base (1 year). My designation in Getty Oil is Supervising Architect; in USAID, Construction Architect. In both, our Operations Manager is a civil engineer. It is sad that there is no such calling in our country, because even those who are mandating our architectural documents do not care or probably do not believe in it. These callings are legitimately ours.

A building (vertical structure) is a delicate and more complicated to construct than the infrastructures (horizontal structure). An ordinary 6-storey building has an average of 25 items to work on, compared to a road or a bridge with the same amount which has not more than 8 items. The same building is 30 to 35% structural, 55 to 60% architectural or finishing, and 10% electrical and plumbing combined. In the road or bridge, about 90% is structural and more or less 10% finishing. Plumbing and electrical is optional. The building employs more manpower and tool power and less equipment. The road or the bridge employs much less manpower but more heavy equipments.

If there is one architect and one civil engineer who passed the board examination yesterday, and you want your ordinary two storey building constructed by picking only one of them, whom would you trust the construction, the architect, who could fully interpret your architectural design and who have already a two years experience as an architect, or the civil engineer, who could barely read architectural drawings and have no experience at all? Common sense dictates whom to give the work. How much more if the structure is a delicate mansion or a compound building like a big mall?

We should reinforce the knowledge and skill in the building construction technology and project management through seminars, workshops, forums, or even integrating it as one of the subjects in school. I took up a 36-hour course of Building Technology and Project Management at USAID in the Kingdom of Laos under the tutorship of the U.S. Marine Engineering Corps. In addition is a 3-time visit and lecture to the construction site. Each site visit is not less than 3 hours.
According to BoA Chair Armando Alli, there are only about 5,000 architects and about 70,000 civil engineers who are practicing architecture, and at the moment, we are still helpless to stop the civil engineers. They are even bold in taking out structural design from us which is ours in RA 545.

If they challenge us in architectural design, we should counter by giving the construction of our designs to our co-architects. If we could delegate drafting, specification writing and estimates to other architects, we could also delegate the construction and project management to our compatriot, especially the young ones. In this case, we are also training them until they become skill in the practice of construction by Administration, Design-Build, Cost-Plus, Project Management or even contracting the project package-deal or what we call “archi-prenuership”. This is architecture in its totality.

Whether you concur with me or not in this manuscript is not my point. My main focus is to give construction and architectural technology equal grip with design. As architects and civil engineers have equal legal rights to construct buildings, we could do better because we are the designers. They cannot complain and grumble if we starve them in the practice of construction.

“And is it not inspiring to see the building which was once on a paper grows and materialized before your eyes, fellow architects?"

A REMINDER FROM THE ARCHIVES

The first Gold Medal of Merit Award and Certificate was bestowed by the Philippine Institute of Architects to Arch. Andres Luna de San Pedro in 1950 not only for design, service and loyalty to the institute and public service, but also to the science of construction. Aside from many distinctions given to him in 1990, one of these is Arch. Leando V. Locsin’s precision in engineering technology. One of Arch. Juan F. Nakpil’s outstanding talents is also the execution of his created edifices. This only discloses that our ancestral architects, distinguished or not, are also in the field of exercising their profession in architectural engineering, technology and construction; and they are having grand times on it.*********Arch.CCNieves fuap caaif
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[Acer_Cyle]

"ARCHITECTURE BEGINS WHERE ENGINEERING ENDS". It was quoted by a German Architect named "Walter Gropius"

By: Asiddin K. Arabain Uap

Architects today are really facing a tragic when it comes to the profession but the two trades are off course play a vital role.

In connection to a project especially on building design before the appearance or I should say the building envelope comes out, it has to have an extensive research, design composition, client relation to architect to achieve a unified concept and subject to evaluation by the client. If the whole idea was then final and transferred by the architect into some series of design drawing then comes the Engineers, remember not only civil engineer, but also includes other engineering services like electrical mechanical and plumbing works. The point here is that without the Architects transferring the ideas of the client into a 2D designs, ("of course in connection to all existing laws and ordinances to conceive the project") there should not be any engineering works in building construction.

You cannot just start a project with a series of columns, or I should say with generators and other equipments without first obtaining what is the "general building ideas that suit the client", it all start first with the architect working with the client before anything else comes into work. So its all in respect the architects role in building industry, do what work you must do and leave what works are for other profession. It is a matter of respecting each others profession and function.




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[12jairien14]

sana maging ganito ang Zamboanga City sa Near Future

Welcome to city of future
Welcome to the city of the future. Tianjin is China's first eco-city, designed by the Surbana Urban Planning Group, and is set to be completed in 2020. See more at www.surbana.com



The sustainable community will encompass 30 square kilometers and will take advantage of energy-saving technologies like wind and solar power, as well as rainwater recycling. See more at www.surbana.com



City will be built
The city will be built for an estimated 350,000 residents, who can choose to live in environments such as the sun-powered Solarscape or the greenery-filled Earthscape. See more at www.surbana.com



Solarscape will be civic center
The Solarscape will be the civic center. Located on the waterfront, the area will feature a floating stage for public events. See more at www.surbana.com.



Dense Urbanscape is at core of city
The dense Urbanscape is at the core of the city. Buildings connected by sky bridges will reduce the need for cars. See more at www.surbana.com.



View of Urbanscape
Another view of the Urbanscape, which makes use of vertical space. See more at www.surbana.com.



Earthscape is residential, suburban place
The Earthscape is the residential, suburban place to live. The stepped architecture maximizes public and green space. See more at www.surbana.com. (Photo courtesy of Surbana Urban Planning Group)




Windscape corridor
The Windscape corridor. The city will be serviced by an advanced light-rail system. See more at www.surbana.com.

ganda nu?
Green na Green
hehehe

[alheaine]

Originally Posted by Acer_Cyle

gracias Alheaine!;-)

de nada.

[alheaine]

Originally Posted by 12jairien14

hahaha
atleast you know alittle though

yeah..at the very least..hehehehehe..