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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #2081
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He doesn't like using English names. Everything is Milano and München instead of Milan and Munich. And in his mind South Tyrol is fully Italian, also in language. He once said that all place names should be written in local language only. A very backward opinion if you ask me, but there you go.
He's however not very consistent at this...
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #2082
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I haven't seen him using any names in English so far...
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:26 PM   #2083
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I haven't seen him using any names in English so far...
But sometimes he called places by names that weren't English, and weren't local either...
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #2084
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But in the language of the vast local majority that pass is called "Brenner" and not "Brennero", on both sides. ->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_2011,_de.png

Of course it is true that Italian speakers, refer to it as Brennero and the Italian speaking minority in Südtirol calls it that way as well (and the province is officiall bilingual therefore). But why would anyone who is not Italian speaking call it like that?
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Old November 18th, 2013, 01:40 AM   #2085
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All roadsigns in Austria displaying place names in Südtirol are in German only. (signs to all other countries are displayed in the language of that particular country) however, the local ÖBB S-bahn from Innsbruck to Brenner is displayed as Brennero - Brenner.
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Old November 18th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #2086
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But in the language of the vast local majority that pass is called "Brenner" and not "Brennero", on both sides. ->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_2011,_de.png
Umm, what a useless debate. Would you call this municipality Sele or Zell in this thread?
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Old November 18th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #2087
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Umm, what a useless debate. Would you call this municipality Sele or Zell in this thread?
Possibly Zell, because my mother tongue is German. (Suburbanists mother tongue isn't Italian, is it?) But I might also call it the way the local majority calls it. I don't know. Both makes sense.
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All roadsigns in Austria displaying place names in Südtirol are in German only. (signs to all other countries are displayed in the language of that particular country) however, the local ÖBB S-bahn from Innsbruck to Brenner is displayed as Brennero - Brenner.
Because Südtirol is officially bilingual and this is a cross border service. Still, only a small minority of locals south of the Brenner will call it Brennero.

It is most certainly not wrong it call it Brennero but it is not what the local majority would call it and it is not the proper English term either. So using it here in this context is a funny choice of words. It makes as much sense as calling it here "Prëner". But lets get back on topic again. I think I have said more about it than is reasonable.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:10 AM   #2088
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(Suburbanists mother tongue isn't Italian, is it?)
He's from many places and has sth with Italy as well, yes (but not with Austria apparently).
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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #2089
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Suburbanist is Brazilian who has lived in Italy, but now resides in Netherlands. If you check his activity ca 1/4 of his posts are in Portuguese.

Although I think we'd be better off talking about trains
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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:33 AM   #2090
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Oh, well, just forget about it. If I had known that I had never started it, I thought he was Dutch. Lets get back on topic.

What is about railway connections between Ljubljana and Vienna btw? Those could be better, couldn't they? 6 hours doesn sound terribly fast and all I found was a single direct connection per day. What is the projected time after the Südbahn upgrades are realized and is there anything going on in Slovenia to upgrade the connections to Austria?
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Old November 19th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #2091
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Possibly Zell, because my mother tongue is German. (Suburbanists mother tongue isn't Italian, is it?) But I might also call it the way the local majority calls it. I don't know. Both makes sense.

Because Südtirol is officially bilingual and this is a cross border service. Still, only a small minority of locals south of the Brenner will call it Brennero.

It is most certainly not wrong it call it Brennero but it is not what the local majority would call it and it is not the proper English term either. So using it here in this context is a funny choice of words. It makes as much sense as calling it here "Prëner". But lets get back on topic again. I think I have said more about it than is reasonable.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the official name of that particular railway station is Brennero - Brenner.
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What is about railway connections between Ljubljana and Vienna btw? Those could be better, couldn't they? 6 hours doesn sound terribly fast and all I found was a single direct connection per day. What is the projected time after the Südbahn upgrades are realized and is there anything going on in Slovenia to upgrade the connections to Austria?
In short: nope. The fastest way would be to drive by Pendolino from Ljubljana to Spielfeld-Straß (doesn't drive any more, only to Maribor) and from there to Vienna by Railjet, but you'd have to change trains once. Railjet Ljubljana-Vienna would be better too.

PS: you need 10 hours from Ljubljana to Budapest.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that the official name of that particular railway station is Brennero - Brenner.
Interesting. But I think I have written already far too much on this.
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According to this website the Paris - Barcelona TGV's will not start on December 15th, yet no other date is given.
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According to this website the Paris - Barcelona TGV's will not start on December 15th, yet no other date is given.
The Spanish Minister for Development, Ana Pastor, has declared today that the direct TGV Paris-Barcelona will start running on December the 15th, 2013, as we were guessing. Tickets aren´t available yet.

Source (in Spanish): La Vanguardia

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Woohoo!

Now to see what a ticket will cost...
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They aren´t uploaded yet, but the trains will be LOADED the weekends and school holidays, I tell you.

We still have to confirm the date for the Toulouse, Marseille and Lyon services, but it´s possible that they could start on December 15 too.

Next goals: Bordeaux, Nice, Lille, Brussels and Geneva... ... and then London, maybe?
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We'll see as well which one of those services are extended to Madrid
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Looks like there will be a Marseille-Madrid. To be confirmed yet.
If that were the case, it will be interesting to know wether it will call at Camp de Tarragona (for Salou, Cambrils, La Pineda & etc), and at Zaragoza (big city, pop. more than 500,000).
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Is it known in which French cities Barcelona-Paris TGV will have a stop?
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