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Old September 11th, 2014, 05:54 PM   #2641
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Nice increase, but still way too little money for my liking.
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Old September 12th, 2014, 03:07 AM   #2642
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Another image of the Marseille incident has appeared. The AVE and the TGV are more seriously damaged than expected.

What was the TGV doing and at which speed was it running? That's the question.

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Old September 12th, 2014, 10:11 AM   #2643
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Most of that will probably be visual damage but as long as beneath the sole bar is alright it shouldn't be too bad to do. Both trains will probably need new nose ends and auto couplers.
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Old September 13th, 2014, 01:50 AM   #2644
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Ironical, since the TGV 736 was the first French train ever to enter Barcelona-Sants station, and the AVE 24 was the first AVE ever to enter Paris-Est station... |
Paris Est ? Why a AVE would go in Paris-Est?
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Old September 13th, 2014, 03:02 AM   #2645
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Paris Est ? Why a AVE would go in Paris-Est?
It spent way too much time admiring the Orient Express?
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Old September 13th, 2014, 03:31 AM   #2646
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Paris Est ? Why a AVE would go in Paris-Est?
It was during the Alstom-AVE testings on the French network before their first official services in France and those testings occurred on the LGV Est (I guess that's because it's the most modern French LGV and the fastest one). Here is a picture I posted few months ago about that :

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a nice pic, on which we can see a Spanish Renfe AVE, a German DB ICE and a French SNCF TGV, taken last spring at Paris-Est station during the Renfe Alstom-AVE testings on the French High Speed network :

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Old September 13th, 2014, 04:46 AM   #2647
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Thank you, that's what I thought afterwards.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #2648
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Not sure this has been posted before... a UIC study on nigh trains on high speed era.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 02:33 AM   #2649
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Here are the times for the Beneluxtrein (Intercity train between Amsterdam and Brussels) as per December 14th, 2014. The frequency will be increased back to the original 16 trains per hour, as once was the plan.

From Amsterdam towards Brussels:
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+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Station           |  Arrival | Departure | Stop time |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Amsterdam Central |          |   10:52   |           |
| Schiphol          |   11:05  |   11:07   |    0:02   |
| Den Haag HS       |   11:38  |   11:43   |    0:05   |
| Rotterdam Central |   12:01  |   12:05   |    0:04   |
| Dordrecht         |   12:19  |   12:20   |    0:01   |
| Roosendaal        |   12:45  |   12:47   |    0:02   |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Antwerp Central   |   13:15  |   13:17   |    0:02   |
| Antwerp Berchem   |   13:21  |   13:23   |    0:02   |
| Mechelen          |   13:35  |   13:38   |    0:03   |
| Brussels Airport  |   13:49  |   13:52   |    0:03   |
| Brussels North    |   14:05  |   14:07   |    0:02   |
| Brussels Central  |   14:10  |   14:11   |    0:01   |
| Brussels South    |   14:15  |           |           |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
Total journey time: 3h23

From Brussels towards Amsterdam:
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+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Station           |  Arrival | Departure | Stop time |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Brussels South    |          |   10:45   |           |
| Brussels Central  |   10:48  |   10:49   |    0:01   |
| Brussels North    |   10:53  |   10:55   |    0:02   |
| Brussels Airport  |   11:08  |   11:11   |    0:03   |
| Mechelen          |   11:22  |   11:25   |    0:03   |
| Antwerp Berchem   |   11:37  |   11:39   |    0:02   |
| Antwerp Centraal  |   11:43  |   11:45   |    0:02   |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
| Roosendaal        |   12:11  |   12:12   |    0:01   |
| Dordrecht         |   12:40  |   12:42   |    0:02   |
| Rotterdam Central |   12:56  |   12:59   |    0:03   |
| Den Haag HS       |   13:17  |   13:21   |    0:04   |
| Schiphol          |   13:48  |   13:49   |    0:01   |
| Amsterdam Central |   14:04  |           |           |
+-------------------+----------+-----------+-----------+
Total journey time: 3h19


It will no longer be possible to speed up the journey by changing to/from IC Direct at Rotterdam, due to the changes in the timetable...
- The Benelux train to Brussels has just left Rotterdam when the ICd from Amsterdam arrives. The Benelux leaves at :05 while the ICd arrives at :06.
- The ICd train to Amsterdam has just left Rotterdam when the Benelux train from Brussels arrives, resulting in a 28 minute changeover for the next ICd.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 02:50 AM   #2650
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Weren't they going to run these trains via Breda?
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:07 AM   #2651
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AFAIK only the ones on the HSL avoiding The Hague. And no, I am not following you. You just show up as the last poster in a lot of my User CP
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:09 AM   #2652
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Weren't they going to run these trains via Breda?
That's the plan, but it's not yet possible to do so as the locomotives and rakes aren't yet certified for use on the Belgian part of the HSL. The expectation is that the Benelux will be rerouted via Breda in december 2016.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:09 AM   #2653
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So was I wrong or right?
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:14 AM   #2654
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You're wrong. The trains will continue to serve The Hague, only the south part of the HSL will be used for the Beneluxtrein. From december 2016 it will have the following stops:

Amsterdam Central, Schiphol, The Hague HS, Rotterdam, Breda, Noorderkempen, Antwerp Centraal, Antwerp Berchem, Mechelen, Brussels Airport, Brussels North, Brussels Central, Brussels South.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Beneluxtrein will also call at Antwerp Luchtbal, as the current train between Antwerp Centraal and Noorderkempen also stops in Luchtbal.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:17 AM   #2655
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:23 AM   #2656
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It's okay. It's quite absurd that the Beneluxtrein will continue to serve The Hague while there is fine HSL infrastructure in place which will better serve the majority of the passengers.

The only reason for that stop is to make sure that Arriva will not proceed with the 'Lage Landen Lijn', the alternative connection which was launched shortly after The Hague lost its direct train to Brussels.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 09:02 AM   #2657
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How long does it take to get from Brussels to Amsterdam by Thalys and how big is the price difference?
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Old September 17th, 2014, 10:39 AM   #2658
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How long does it take to get from Brussels to Amsterdam by Thalys and how big is the price difference?
1h51min travel time. Lowest fares are € 29.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 10:54 PM   #2659
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Here are the times for the Beneluxtrein (Intercity train between Amsterdam and Brussels) as per December 14th, 2014. The frequency will be increased back to the original 16 trains per hour,
Per hour? Sure?
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Per hour? Sure?
crap Benelux train = 16x/day
aweosme Thalys train = 12x/day
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