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Old June 25th, 2015, 09:01 PM   #3061
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There's about as much chance of anything like this happening in the short term as there is Greece getting it's finances sorted out.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 09:02 PM   #3062
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To complicate matters a little, the only cargo capable HS-trainsets in existence, the TGV La Poste vehicles that you refer to, are being scrapped.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 10:00 PM   #3063
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There is really very little need for a high speed freight delivery. At least for the kind of delivery railways would be good at (large volumes).
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Old June 25th, 2015, 10:10 PM   #3064
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Most network management companies use nighttime to do regular maintenance and repairs on high-speed tracks, reason for which they are rarely closed during daytime. If regular nigh traffic starts using them, this philosophy would have to change.
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Old June 28th, 2015, 03:24 AM   #3065
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Old June 29th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #3066
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Why is the area surrounding Rhine in Germany classed as a metropolis, but Benelux not?

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italy and germany both are pretty similar since the population is more equally distributed. spain and france don't instead. fully visible in maps at night with artificial lights.

just see the huge "stain" in the Po valley and the adriatic coast.

What surprises me is how undeveloped British HSR is considering how dense and close it's populations are. We are expecting 4 new HSR right? And maybe two tunnels to Ireland?

Then there's a route between Germany and Moscow waiting to be built.


But does anyone here wonder whether EU should invest in long distance Mag-Lev?
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Old June 29th, 2015, 09:28 PM   #3067
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But does anyone here wonder whether EU should invest in long distance Mag-Lev?

Only those who are insane in the membrane will wonder about such a thing.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 09:31 PM   #3068
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What surprises me is how undeveloped British HSR is considering how dense and close it's populations are. We are expecting 4 new HSR right? And maybe two tunnels to Ireland?
I can't think of any valid reason but there must have been some national policy decision back in the 80s that they would not develop hsr, unlike france and germany.
And a Tunnel to Ireland will probably never come true since digging 80-90 km will cost you a pretty penny.
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Then there's a route between Germany and Moscow waiting to be built.
Planes are probably far too competitive at those distances. Plus the russians use broad gauge.
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But does anyone here wonder whether EU should invest in long distance Mag-Lev?
maglev is currently being build in Japan but it is incredibly expensive and runs in tunnels for much of the line. it might be just a giant financial black hole. time will tell.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #3069
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I can't think of any valid reason but there must have been some national policy decision back in the 80s that they would not develop hsr, unlike france and germany.

Britain in the 1980s was certainly not a place that was embracing the idea of high speed railways as France was. France in fact had kicked-off research into the HS train idea back in the 1970s.

The 1970s and 1980s were two very difficult decades in Britain. And with the arrival of the Margaret Thatcher led Conservative administration in 1979 anything that was taxpayer-funded was under the spotlight.

Check out the infamous Serpell Report, for example.

But we live in more logical times now, thankfully.
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Old June 30th, 2015, 12:00 PM   #3070
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EC identifies rail investment priorities
Monday, June 29, 2015



THE European Commission (EC) revealed its rail investment priorities for the next five years on June 29, when transport commissioner Mrs Violeta Bulc unveiled a shortlist of 276 transport projects which are being put forward to share €13.1bn in funding from the European Union's (EU) Connecting Europe Facility (CEF)

The EC says it has received more than 700 applications from member states requesting a total of €36bn in funding for transport projects since the CEF was launched last September. The EU's contribution to selected projects will range from 20% to 85%, with nearly €4.8bn allocated to member states eligible for cohesion funding.

The EC says the investment will unlock additional public and private co-financing which will increase the total value to €28.8bn

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The list largely focuses on enhancements to the core trans-European network and includes flagship projects including Rail Baltica, the Fehmarn Belt Fixed Link, Lyon - Turin, Austria's Brenner Base Tunnel, and Spain's Mediterranean Corridor upgrade, as well as a range of smaller-scale initiatives including studies on the reopening of the Iron Rhine, upgrading of the cross-border link between Groningen and Bremen, and capacity enhancements on the Kiruna - Narvik line in northern Sweden

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Old June 30th, 2015, 04:49 PM   #3071
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Looks like even a Slovenian commissioner can't provide us with any mentionworthy money from EU. Then again, it's our own fault.
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Are there any news about Euro Carex?


Last post for French high-speed freight as postal TGVs bow out
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Old July 1st, 2015, 06:23 PM   #3073
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What surprises me is how undeveloped British HSR is considering how dense and close it's populations are.
It's exactly because it's close and dense that HSR made less sense in the UK. The largest and second largest cities in the UK are already less than two hours apart by train. The situation in for example France is very different.

However building new dedicated lines will make it possible to fix some of the problems plagueing British railways, like the constrained loading gauge and short platforms.
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Old July 1st, 2015, 08:17 PM   #3074
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Found the exact list of projects entitled to funding and amounts/quotas: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/themes...n-awp-2014.pdf
And do not worry, Slovenia is in. There is funding for a second tube for the Karawankentunnel between Slovenia and Austria (although applied for by Austria).
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Old July 1st, 2015, 09:41 PM   #3075
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3.7 million euros, that's nothing. We need more than a billion for the second rail to the port of Koper. Even Austria and Hungary are getting annoyed with lack of it.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 02:42 AM   #3076
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I suppose Slovenia is still eligible for grants out of the Cohesion Fund anyway.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 10:20 AM   #3077
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Found the exact list of projects entitled to funding and amounts/quotas
From this text, the description of a project :

MEDAS 3.0 - Greening the automotive supply
chain with trusted collaborative networks to
bundle cargo and operate a sustainable `just
in time? Mediterranean rail shuttle service

Was this the result of a contest to insert a maximum of today's buzzwords
in one single sentence ? And do project really have to be described that way
to be taken in consideration by the european commission ?
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 06:31 AM   #3078
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It's exactly because it's close and dense that HSR made less sense in the UK. The largest and second largest cities in the UK are already less than two hours apart by train. The situation in for example France is very different.

However building new dedicated lines will make it possible to fix some of the problems plagueing British railways, like the constrained loading gauge and short platforms.
I agree that UK has different population distribution compared to France. But Britain is also increasingly American in it's approach to socialism and liberalism, and this must have played a role in railways investment.

UK needs more capacity and I agree that investment in HSR is a perfect way to solve this problem. I would add that the next HSR3 should be built in between Glasgow and Edinburgh to help spread out investment away from London.

I also think the new Euston/St Pancreas/Kings Cross area will be very intresting, especially if it merges with a new train station east of Euston... London may have it's own "Northern Station" soon...
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 12:24 PM   #3079
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I agree that UK has different population distribution compared to France. But Britain is also increasingly American in it's approach to socialism and liberalism, and this must have played a role in railways investment.

UK needs more capacity and I agree that investment in HSR is a perfect way to solve this problem. I would add that the next HSR3 should be built in between Glasgow and Edinburgh to help spread out investment away from London.

I also think the new Euston/St Pancreas/Kings Cross area will be very intresting, especially if it merges with a new train station east of Euston... London may have it's own "Northern Station" soon...
There's already a planned HSR between Glasgow & Edinburgh. Its due to be completed by 2024.

As for your first point, can I have a pint of what you've been drinking?!
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Old July 12th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #3080
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I was thinking whether an international rail link between Gibraltar and Algeciras could be built, with a tunnel crossing under La Linea and the border.
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