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Old November 2nd, 2008, 10:41 AM   #381
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Well, it is not the first fire in the tunnel. Maybe sabotage? Why there is fire inside the car? No fire in the sips carrying hundreds of cars for example.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 06:19 PM   #382
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A few sparks can start a fire. Again it's proven that tunnels are very vulnerable when it comes to a fires. A small fire gives big problems.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 06:37 PM   #383
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Aren't cars engines turned off during the crossing? How can the breaking system catch fire if the vehicle is not running?
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 03:17 PM   #384
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A few sparks can start a fire. Again it's proven that tunnels are very vulnerable when it comes to a fires. A small fire gives big problems.
The authorities who built the tunnel didn't put sprinklers in the shuttle vehicles because their risk assessment said fire would occur once every 1000 years. 10 years and two fires later.....
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 11:30 PM   #385
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The Seikan tunnel is longer, but "only" 23 km of it are under the sea, the rest are under mountains.

The Eurotunnel is 50 km long of which about 40 km are under the sea.
lol.. i like the way you said "only" in quotes.

I guess the way the reporter wrote it was a bit deceiving. Seikan is the longer "undersea link" (by a touch). The reason for its length is because of the depth, if I'm not mistaken, which requires a longer run-up.

The Chunnel's undersea portion is definitely longer, though.

Doesn't matter, really... they're both marvels.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #386
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The Seikan Tunnel is deeper and pass also under mountains (maximum coverage is about 500 meters), the Eurotunnel lies in a flat region.

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The Channel Tunnel (French: Le tunnel sous la Manche), also known by the portmanteau Chunnel, is a 50.5 km (31.4 mi) undersea rail tunnel linking Folkestone, Kent in England with Coquelles near Calais in northern France beneath the English Channel at the Strait of Dover. At its lowest point it is 75 m (250 ft) deep. It has the longest undersea portion of any tunnel in the world, although Japan's Seikan Tunnel is longer overall at 53.85 km (33.5 mi) and reaches a depth of 240 m (790 ft).
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Old November 14th, 2008, 11:36 AM   #387
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What is the current situation of the tunnel? Have all damages been repaired and train services restored back to normal?
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Old November 14th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #388
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No. The remaining third of the north tunnel will be reopened in spring 2009.
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Old November 17th, 2008, 11:01 AM   #389
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Is that effecting operations greatly?
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Old November 17th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #390
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Yeah its adding lots of delays, I think eurostar is running with an extra 20minutes timetabled in.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 03:55 PM   #391
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Are there any crossovers in the tunnel so trains can switch from tube to tube?
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:24 PM   #392
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Are there any crossovers in the tunnel so trains can switch from tube to tube?
Yes, there are 2 crossovers, which can be sealed in case of an incident.
With those 2 crossovers, there are 3 intervals in each tube, that makes 6 intervals in each direction.
Since the last incident there is 1 interval out of service, if i'm not mistaking, at the French side of the tunnel.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #393
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Is the Tunnel still in single-track operation?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #394
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Is the Tunnel still in single-track operation?
As I said, 5 out of 6 intervals are in service, so only the first section on the French side of the tunnel is in single-track operation, the middle part and the British side are in dual track operation.
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Old November 25th, 2008, 02:02 PM   #395
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So essentially theres a big bottleneck at the French end. Does anyone know if trains are stopping in the tunnels at this bottleneck, or is this against safety?
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Old November 25th, 2008, 02:21 PM   #396
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I've stoppped in the Chunnel before under normal circumstances, on a shuttle, near the French end. Obviously traffic was in the way, so I don't think its against regs.
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Old November 25th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #397
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As I said, 5 out of 6 intervals are in service, so only the first section on the French side of the tunnel is in single-track operation, the middle part and the British side are in dual track operation.
Is the closed part in Britain-bound tube or France-bound tube?
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Old November 25th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #398
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Is the closed part in Britain-bound tube or France-bound tube?
The closed part is in the north tunnel, which is normally used for trains, coming from the UK, going towards France.
So the damaged section is the last part in the direction of France.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 01:19 AM   #399
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We’ll buy UK’s share of Eurostar - and run it better, say Germans

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Old December 16th, 2008, 09:31 PM   #400
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Why doesn't Germany just come and run the bloody country? It seems so hell bent on telling the UK it's wrong at everything it does these days. Doing herself no favours amongst the impressions of the British populace.

I hope the government does not sell its stake. Yet another industry bought up by Europeans, whose own governments protect and protect from foreign buyers. We already have German owned trains running on French electricity in the UK.

There are no excuses as to why the UK can't run its share of Eurostar better. However, it's a complicated organisation, and I don't think the Germans would be any better sorting it out... even if DB is better to book through tickets with

The government should wait until 2010 and open access agreement take its toll. That will force Eurostar to perform better with competitors. It will also hopefully reduce the costs that companies have to pay to pass through the tunnel.

EDIT: Only a year ago DB said it had no intention of utilising the Channel Tunnel. What's with the lies?

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