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Old December 11th, 2005, 06:16 PM   #81
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That's not the right approach. I'd improve say Lpool-Manc-Shef and similarly simply there where many people live and commute. France also built railways that now by-pass the capital. Once such a decision is taken, the entire country will benefit. Having just a London-The North connection would again help London. First of all I'd connect Ashford and Brum with a cross-London HSR.
A maglev is mighty costly by the way, and consumes way too much energy and literally shoots past its clients who live scattered around the country.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #82
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What's with the anti-Manchester/Liverpool bias? Surely Preston can fit into a bigger vision for the whole NW without being the bitchy cousin of the two great cities?
What do we have to be thankful for from any of the NorthWest agencies. With them, Preston (or the whole of Lancashire for that matter) may as well not exist.
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Old December 12th, 2005, 06:14 AM   #83
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Italian government: work won't start on Alpine rail link until report on impact is ready
10 December 2005

ROME (AP) - Construction of a high-speed rail link between Italy and France will not begin until an expert completes a report on the project's impact on human health and the environment in the Alpine Valley of Susa, the Italian government said Saturday.

Premier Silvio Berlusconi had vowed earlier this week that the construction would begin on the project to link Turin in northwest Italy with Lyon in southeast France.

Proponents say a high-speed train linking Portugal and Ukraine though Italy's Alps region would reduce truck traffic through small towns. But opponents fear that drilling the tunnel would damage the environment and release unhealthy substances into the air.

Clashes between police and protesters in recent days have left 18 injured in the valley. On Saturday, protesters kept a calm vigil at the planned construction site, Italian state TV said.

The government made its promise to wait until the experts' report was finished after a long meeting at the premier's office, which included ministers, leaders from small towns in the valley, an Italian state railways official and the mayor of Turin, which is hosting the 2006 Winter Olympics that include events to be held in the valley.

A government statement said that "a personality of high prestige and recognized professional capability" would prepare the report focusing on the implications for transportation, health and the environment, among other concerns.

The expert was not identified, nor was a date given for the report's completion.

"The work to dig the prospecting tunnel will begin only at the end" of the study and after the report is delivered, the government said.

Participants at Saturday's meeting agreed to "respect" the planned construction site and to allow the construction company to take possession of it, the statement from the premier's office said.

The protests had been aimed at thwarting the start of work.

The premier's office said there would be regular meetings such as the one held Saturday, and that future participants would also include a European Commission official.
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Old December 14th, 2005, 04:31 AM   #84
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UK government set to approve north-south high speed rail line - source
13 December 2005

LONDON (AFX) - The UK government is set to approve the construction of a high speed north-south rail line, according to a source.

A transport report due to be submitted to ministers next year by former British Airways PLC chief executive Rod Eddington is likely to recommend the building of a TGV-style route between London and Scotland.

Treasury officials have indicated they will back the concept, a source close to the matter told AFX News.

However, question marks still remain over funding for the project, which is likely to cost several billion stg.

A spokeswoman for the Department for Transport declined to comment on the report's potential conclusions and the government's response to them. 'It's very early days,' she said.

Last week, high speed train operator Eurostar urged ministers to approve the scheme, saying it would cut journey times, reduce pollution and lift urban regeneration.

Eurostar runs trains at up to 186 mph between London, Paris and Brussels and is operated by a consortium including National Express Group PLC, BA PLC and French and Belgian state railways SNCF and SNCB.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 06:54 AM   #85
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Portuguese high speed train project to create 100,000 jobs - Lino
13 December 2005

LISBON (AFX) - The government's proposed 7.7 bln eur development of two TGV high-speed rail lines in Portugal will create 100,000 jobs from 2010 to 2012, the peak years of the construction phase, Mario Lino, the public works, transport and communications minister, said at the launch of the project.

He wants 60 pct of the work to be contracted to domestic companies, for the rail, telecoms and ICT specialities and for the train interiors, Lusa newsagency reported.

Lino said he believes the increase in orders in the relevant sectors will lead to growth in the economy.

The fact that Portugal is experiencing economic difficulties does not justify suspension of the high speed train project, he said.

The government is prioritising the lines between Lisbon and Porto and between Lisbon and Madrid, because they offer better economic returns.

Construction of the Lisbon-Porto line will require investment of 4.7 bln eur and the Lisbon-Madrid link 3 bln, while rail components will cost another 600 mln and rolling stock 480 mln, according to Lino's projections.

The government estimates that the project will generate operating cash flow covering 38 pct of the investment and the EU will contribute 22 pct, leaving the government to find the remaining 40 pct, Lusa reported.

Diario Economico cited Lino as saying private companies are likely to fund 30-30 pct of the project.

The proposals are 'positive for most players' in the Portuguese construction sector and could also benefit Spanish companies, Bruno Almeida da Silva and Ana Horno of Banco BPI said in a note to clients.

'In our view, construction companies should benefit the most, with Mota Engil and Teixeira Duarte being the obvious winners and Cimpor and Semapa indirectly benefitting due to the expected uplift in cement consumption,' they said, adding that motorway operator Brisa 'could also have a role in the project'.

The high speed train is likely to directly compete with air connections between Porto and Lisbon, with air traffic estimated to be slashed by 40 pct, Da Silva and Horno said.

Between Lisbon and Madrid, the rail line is likely to absorb 'around 30 pct of the air traffic,' the BPI analysts said.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 07:10 AM   #86
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To complete the story, it had been planned on the Spanish side for quite some time. There was more ambivalence on the project on the Portuguese side.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 03:16 PM   #87
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Great project, is that so unusual for a highspeed rail service to carry cargo?
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Old December 16th, 2005, 05:00 PM   #88
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I believe so.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 05:38 PM   #89
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Seems like a really good idea!
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Old December 16th, 2005, 07:36 PM   #90
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Why not use the old Lisbon-Madrid line for freight?

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Old December 16th, 2005, 07:51 PM   #91
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yeh, what´s the hurry with cargo...
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Old December 16th, 2005, 08:02 PM   #92
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All in all though, this is fantastic news, for both Spain and Portugal. Even if there is freight, as long as the journey time is less than 3 hours as promised, it is still a very fast speed on average, about 200 km/h, and will be fast enough to compete with more dirty cars and airplanes.

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Old December 19th, 2005, 04:48 AM   #93
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Turin Mayor Slams Attack On European Parliament Lawmaker
18 December 2005

ROME (AP)--The mayor of Turin, which will host the Winter Olympics in February, Sunday decried an attack on a European parliament lawmaker on a train on the city's outskirts allegedly by youths who had earlier marched against an Alpine valley rail project.

Mario Borghezio, who represents the right-wing Northern League party, suffered a broken nose in the beating, said Libero Tubino, a doctor at Chivasso hospital near Turin, where the lawmaker was scheduled to have surgery on Monday.

"I express my firm condemnation of the act and full solidarity" with Borghezio, the Italian news agency ANSA quoted Mayor Sergio Chiamparino as saying in Turin.

A few hours before the incident Saturday night, thousands of people had peacefully marched through Turin and attended a rally to protest plans to drill a tunnel in Susa Valley for a high-speed rail link between Turin and Lyon, France.

Authorities had warned recently that anarchists and left-wing extremists could infiltrate anti-rail link protests in and near Turin in the run-up to the Olympics, but Saturday afternoon's march ended without incident.

Borghezio was assaulted by youths who, according to authorities, are involved in anti-globalization movements and who had joined in the march. The assault came shortly after the train had left Turin, en route to Venice.

The lawmaker, who happened to be on the same train as the demonstrators, told reporters at the hospital that the youths beating him up "made death threats, threatening to throw me off the train. It was an attempt at a lynching."

Borghezio said two police officers aboard the train came to his rescue.

ANSA reported that 55 youths were taken off the train during a stop in Padua for identification by police as part of the probe into the assault.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 05:16 AM   #94
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geez, send em to Canada. Here we have no chance of a HSR ever being built so i'd think they'd like it
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:44 AM   #95
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In Italy 99% of pubblic opinion is in favour of HSR Turin-Lyon
Maybe these 99% should organize a protest too. In favour of the HSR Line.
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Old December 19th, 2005, 10:06 PM   #96
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trucks sucks, HSR rulz!!!
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Old December 20th, 2005, 04:03 PM   #97
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Interesting Genius Loci. When would Corridor 5 be built?
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Old April 22nd, 2006, 06:49 PM   #98
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Eurostar Hopes to be Profitable in 2008

Eurostar CEO says profit possible in 2008 -paper

BRUSSELS, April 22 (Reuters) - Eurostar, the train service linking London to Paris and other European cities, could become profitable in 2008, its Chief Executive Richard Brown told the Saturday edition of the Belgian De Morgen daily.

"The passenger total has grown a little while our costs have not risen. That means that there is profit on the horizon. I think in 2008, but it is difficult to make forecasts," he said.

Brown said Eurostar profits depended largely on the actions of railway operators SNCF in France and SNCB in Belgium.

"They are the operators there of Eurostar... In the end our profit lies in their hands. But both in Belgium and in France we are on course in terms of both passenger numbers and income," he said.

On Tuesday Eurostar said first-quarter sales rose 7 percent from a year earlier to reach record levels of 125 million pounds ($219 million).

The group said 1.7 million travellers used the service during the first quarter and added it had benefited from a surge in the number of business travellers.

The train operator has had to contend with stiff competition from budget airlines but said on Tuesday it was winning market share at their expense.

Eurostar forecast a strong performance in the second quarter and said it expected to benefit from the summer World Cup soccer tournament in Germany and also the release of "The Da Vinci Code" movie, which is set in Paris and London.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 09:47 PM   #99
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Private rail companies in Europe: how much rail is left ?

I was wondering how the European train operators are facing the open market.
In the UK , Germany and the Netherlands private companies are coming along but how far reach their potential ?

What is your opinion about this ?
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Old June 12th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #100
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Well the privatisation of Britains railways has been a complete mess from day one. Only now are things slowly starting to change and franchises being removed for bad performance on the part of rail operators. In addition with the formation of Network Rail which oversees the maintenance, since the collapse of Railtrack following poor management and accidents, there has been alot of cash pumped in but a long way to go yet...
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