EUROPE | Eurostar and Inter-country Railways

[Maxx☢Power]

Originally Posted by DiggerD21

You mean the posters and brand names in the beginning at the central station? I think they belong to the station and are not intentionally put into this video. Otherwise they also would have shown the Lufthansa Self-Check-Ins completely and not without the brand name.

I mean the out-of-place single frames from -2:13 to -2:02. I've watched the entire clip now though, and they're from the end of the movie, so it's probably just a transcoding problem. There's one particular frame that says "Fritz Steuber Productions" which made me think it was put in there on purpose, but I see now that it's from the end.

Back on topic: Hope they do actually build it.

[Fugit]

When will be open lines: LGV Belgium L.4 and HSL Zuid from Antwerpen to Amsterdam and also when will be open the line LGV Belge L.3 from Liege to Aachen?

[sweek]

Originally Posted by Fugit

When will be open lines: LGV Belgium L.4 and HSL Zuid from Antwerpen to Amsterdam and also when will be open the line LGV Belge L.3 from Liege to Aachen?

They should've both been open yet, but aren't. It's hard to tell when they will actually solve all the problems surrounding them.

[Songoten2554]

as i found out a study of a bridge or a tunnel for the Strait of Gibraltar is possible i am imagining that with this tunnel its possible to have high speed rail in it since it will be a new tunnel

since it will be rail it will be electric making it a higher chance to be like the channel tunnel and like my big project the Asiatunnels that will carry international High Speed Rail, Shuttle trains (that ferries cars, buses, motocycles, trucks, etc), International Night Trains (that are slower and that is more scenic and more of a romatiac transportation and also to serve overnight passengers), and Freight trains which is another important thing

this project which will mark an important link and important income to Africa and Europe

much the same way my grand scheme Asia project will bring Income to Asia

there is a problem the depth and earthquake

well the depth i think we will leave it to the professionals

but the earthquake problem can be solved like the tunnel in san francisco it carries the BART trains and it has several protection mechisams to protect it from earthquakes

but anyways this can mean it can finally bring High Speed Rail to Africa

so what do all of you think i think it can be build and its more possible then the bridge of Gibraltar

since the tunnels will use electric trains high speed rail is more possible

[RawLee]

strange idea...EU pays for a project this size,although half of the members dont have railroads that can do 160...
BTW,how can be a tunnel romantic?

[Songoten2554]

i don't mean the tunnel to be romantic i mean the sceney when you get out of the african side or the european side and when you hop on a train to go to another country it makes it all unique

[RawLee]

Originally Posted by Songoten2554

i don't mean the tunnel to be romantic i mean the sceney when you get out of the african side or the european side and when you hop on a train to go to another country it makes it all unique

where did you get the 2008 date? Even the producers of extreme engineering(discovery) admitted that the bridge is highly unprobable in the near future.

[Songoten2554]

by the way it will be paid between the spanish and monoroco governments as they conducted the research that the tunnel is more feasible then the bridge

[Songoten2554]

it said 2008 in wikipedia thats where i got it from and it said ends construction in 2025

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar_Tunnel

[Songoten2554]

also they said that they conducted a three year research study starting in 2003 on a bridge or tunnel and both governments said that a Railway tunnel like the channel tunnel is more possible and more feasible to be built

[keber]

There are much more important things in Europe's railway than Gibraltar tunnel. Like new Frejus tunnel and Brenner tunnel. They will cost immense amount of money, but at least they will pay itself in not so very distant future.

Even Channel tunnel still produces constant losses, I very much doubt, that Gibraltar tunnel will start construction in near future. And especially not in 2008.

[RawLee]

Originally Posted by keber

There are much more important things in Europe's railway than Gibraltar tunnel. Like new Frejus tunnel and Brenner tunnel. They will cost immense amount of money, but at least they will pay itself in not so very distant future.

Even Channel tunnel still produces constant losses, I very much doubt, that Gibraltar tunnel will start construction in near future. And especially not in 2008.

And why would EU fund the whole project(since no way a single country in the region could pay its cost),if it is not located totally in Europe? The EU wont even pay the whole cost of a new bridge in the member states...ships do the job there...this is like that super-texas corridor or what..has no meaning.

[Songoten2554]

like i said it will be paid by the spanish and monroco governments so its europe and Africa that it will be paying for this as well

so we humans have built great engineering feats and you people say it can't be built like i said look at the link i gave it gives a better idea on what is the scope of this project

[RawLee]

Originally Posted by Songoten2554

like i said it will be paid by the spanish and monroco governments so its europe and Africa that it will be paying for this as well

so we humans have built great engineering feats and you people say it can't be built like i said look at the link i gave it gives a better idea on what is the scope of this project

http://www.opacengineers.com/index.p...heet,gibraltar
Client:
Date:
Construction cost (estimated): Prof. T.Y. Lin, San Francisco, California
Study completed 1996
US$ 15,000,000,000

you think Morocco and Spain can spare 15billion USD(10,969,815,314EUR)?
and its only got more expensive...

[Songoten2554]

well maybe we might never know plus wikipedia has the article about the tunnel so it could be possible

[keber]

Of course it could be possible, but not now or in 2008. I highly doubt even, that construction will begin before 2020, if ever.

[RawLee]

Until Africa is not a huge trading partner,this project has no meaning. For such an investment,extensive highway and HSR network is needed on both sides,and not just in Morocco and Spain,but on the whole northwestern part of Africa.

[ChrisZwolle]

So this will be a financial disaster like the Eurotunnel? No thanks. Better build a combined road/rail tunnel. There are a lot of trucks for Morocco, and ofcourse, a huge wave of Moroccan immigrants in Europe travelling back to Morocco each summer.

[Songoten2554]

what do you mean a finicial dieaster it the channel tunnel still opreate and well it still works

[RawLee]

Originally Posted by Songoten2554

what do you mean a finicial dieaster it the channel tunnel still opreate and well it still works

It doesnt bring in funds...doesnt make profit.