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Old February 1st, 2013, 06:49 PM   #1581
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The eurostar does stop at Ashford, are there the same type of passport and luggage checks there ?
Yes, with less added queueing.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #1582
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If what this press article says (in french) is true :

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...f-en-2016.html

DB would be planning (in 2016) to exit from Thalys and launch its own service
between Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Köln.

It will be nice to see some competition on this service, which is for the time
being a real milk cow but with not much effort in terms of price and comfort.
Hopefully the competition between Thalys and DB will bring some progress...
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Old February 12th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #1583
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If what this press article says (in french) is true :

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...f-en-2016.html

DB would be planning (in 2016) to exit from Thalys and launch its own service
between Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Köln.

It will be nice to see some competition on this service, which is for the time
being a real milk cow but with not much effort in terms of price and comfort.
Hopefully the competition between Thalys and DB will bring some progress...
Well, the service was first announced as launching in 2013 so this is quite disappointing.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 05:33 PM   #1584
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Well, the service was first announced as launching in 2013 so this is quite disappointing.
What was announced for 'launching in 2013' is the ICE from Frankfurt and Amsterdam to London. It's uncertain when that service will start, this is due to the heavy delay of the Velaro D.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #1585
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Thanks for your input and the link to that detailed official map. I updated my map accordingly.
The so called HSR in britain is 'poor' when i compare to some european countries.

I didn't expect to be so disapointing with this "revolutionnary"british network.
Everytime i read HSR2 HSR2 HSR2 and i notice that the network is very poor.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 12:59 PM   #1586
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The so called HSR in britain is 'poor' when i compare to some european countries.

I didn't expect to be so disapointing with this "revolutionnary"british network.
Everytime i read HSR2 HSR2 HSR2 and i notice that the network is very poor.
That's the existing network. HS2 is the planned one.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 02:26 AM   #1587
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The so called HSR in britain is 'poor' when i compare to some european countries.

I didn't expect to be so disapointing with this "revolutionnary"british network.
Everytime i read HSR2 HSR2 HSR2 and i notice that the network is very poor.
Not quite correct.


There are GAPS in the french TGV network BIGGER than the entire great britain.
And one must check the FREQUENCY of services on those few yellow routes in the UK ...

Sidenote: jn the portuguese section of the map it should be orange almost instead of yellow (224km/h) and ALL the 30.000+ cities are already served by HSR over here (Alfa Pendular 224km/h / Intercity 200km/h)

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Old February 19th, 2013, 03:04 AM   #1588
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Not quite correct.


There are GAPS in the french TGV network BIGGER than the entire great britain.
And one must check the FREQUENCY of services on those few yellow routes in the UK ...

Sidenote: jn the portuguese section of the map it should be orange almost instead of yellow (224km/h) and ALL the 30.000+ cities are already served by HSR over here (Alfa Pendular 224km/h / Intercity 200km/h)

What are the black lines ?
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Old February 19th, 2013, 03:18 AM   #1589
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below 200km/h
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Old February 19th, 2013, 06:14 AM   #1590
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Not quite correct.


There are GAPS in the french TGV network BIGGER than the entire great britain.
And one must check the FREQUENCY of services on those few yellow routes in the UK ...

Sidenote: jn the portuguese section of the map it should be orange almost instead of yellow (224km/h) and ALL the 30.000+ cities are already served by HSR over here (Alfa Pendular 224km/h / Intercity 200km/h)

Btw Tangier and Kenitra (the moroccan network) the speed is up to 320km/h, and btw Kenitra and Casablanca the speed limit is 220km/h
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #1591
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I think there are some 200 km/h railways in Poland. Not long parts but still.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #1592
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Yes, but most of them will be opened next year between Gdańsk, Warsaw and Kraków.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #1593
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I think there are some 200 km/h railways in Poland. Not long parts but still.
Central Rail Line (CMK) completed in 1977 was designed for speeds up to 250 km/h. Line is 224 km long. Regular services are limited to 160km/h. The line is being prepared to upgrade speed up to 200(230)km/h - it's equipped with new ETCS L1, overhead contact system, power supply. PKP Intercity obtained 20 ETR610 EMUs - first will arrive Poland in summer this year.

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200km/h is also planned on line Warszawa - Gdynia.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 03:44 PM   #1594
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I think there are some 200 km/h railways in Poland. Not long parts but still.
Further to what Markfos said, this map only shows operational service speeds. So any line capable of, but not actually used, above 200km/h, is not shown.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 10:38 PM   #1595
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Further to what Markfos said, this map only shows operational service speeds. So any line capable of, but not actually used, above 200km/h, is not shown.
I see. Any map of 200+ km/h railroads U/C?
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Old April 5th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #1596
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For those of you who are interested, there is a parallel discussion on the Asian high-speed lines in these threads:

ASIA | Pan Asian Railway
CHINA | High Speed Rail

Also I started a thread on making maps, Presenting maps and geographical information — tips and best practices

The East Asian High-Speed map in Wikipedia...




... is modelled upon the European High-Speed map in Wikipedia...



... and those two maps (and any future maps) should be consistent with each other.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #1597
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are both up to date??
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They are mostly up to date. At the time of this writing it marks the Harbin-Dalian line as under construction while it has actually been running for several months. I think the Europe map is up to date, but at least for the Bothnia link there is a discrepancy. The map says 250 km/h. It is supposed to be operational speed, not design speed, but according to the article:
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The Bothnia Line (Swedish: Botniabanan) is a high-speed railway line in northern Sweden. The 190 km (120 mi) long route, from Kramfors airport via Örnsköldsvik to Umeå, was opened in 2010 and trains are allowed to travel at speeds up to 250 km/h (160 mph) (although no train capable of more than 200 km/h (120 mph) uses the railway as of 2013).
Thus the operational speed should be below 200 km/h if the paranthesis is right, or the article should be updated if not.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 07:47 PM   #1599
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Construction of the Perpignan - Barcelona high speed railway has finished, too. There are already some Spanish AVE trains running from Figueres Vilafant, in the near future international TGV services will use the line as well.
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The Asian map doesn't show any of the Japanese lines under construction (Hokuriku and Hokkaido shinkansen). That's a major omission. European map is mostly right, but also some small mistakes like non-existant construction projects in Italy.
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