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Old July 19th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #1821
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Just checked it on bahn.de . A seat reservation is 5 Euros. However usually the best bet foe this train is to get db's "Globalpreis" (ticket and reservation for a particular connection).
Thank you very much. I am planning the trip to Berlin by EuroNight Metropol and just realised the prices even for private sleeper compartment for two people aren't so expensive. But on every provider's site I have browsed on, there was a note about that compartments are divided by sex to male's and female's. What can I do if I want to travel with my fiancée?
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Old July 19th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #1822
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Thank you very much. I am planning the trip to Berlin by EuroNight Metropol and just realised the prices even for private sleeper compartment for two people aren't so expensive. But on every provider's site I have browsed on, there was a note about that compartments are divided by sex to male's and female's. What can I do if I want to travel with my fiancée?
If you reserve the whole compartment - which is what you intend to do if
I understand well - then you have no problem. It's only when you do not
reserve the whole compartment that they won't mix male and female. The
goal is to avoid mixing people of different sex who do not know each other.
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Old July 19th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #1823
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goal is to avoid mixing people of different sex who do not know each other.


But that's the best way of picking up some strange!




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Old July 20th, 2013, 05:40 PM   #1824
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Go to Russia, they do not separate compartments
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Old July 20th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #1825
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Go to Russia, they do not separate compartments
Compartments are for weak.
Only open layout sleaper, only hardcore
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Old July 20th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #1826
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OPen layout sleepers are third-world-ish. They should be abolished by any respectable railway.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #1827
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OPen layout sleepers are third-world-ish. They should be abolished by any respectable railway.
Well, let's consider something quite opposite. Did anybody try to introduce any "sleeping capsules"? Not luxurious, but pleasant enough inside (warm, soft, air-conditioned, silent) for passenger to have a nap during the night travel. Even if the word "coffin" comes to mind - it could be a viable option, also in railway cars without separate departments...

Just a thought...
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Old July 20th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #1828
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That would resemble some train carrying prisoners on the Soviet Union.

No, thanks.

I actually think night trains are a tiny niche. Long trips should be done by airplanes or daytime-configured high-speed trains if available.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #1829
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That would resemble some train carrying prisoners on the Soviet Union.

No, thanks.

I actually think night trains are a tiny niche. Long trips should be done by airplanes or daytime-configured high-speed trains if available.
Well, it may be now, but I believe that in 20 or so years we would see a lot of night trains due fact that liquid fuels prices are growing quicker, than prices of electricity.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #1830
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OPen layout sleepers are third-world-ish. They should be abolished by any respectable railway.
Well, as a regular (well, not like every week, but regular enough) user of both open layout and compartments, I could state, that once you are asleep - there is no great difference.
And from position of personal security open layout have advantage of so called communal security - you can end up in a compartment with a bad company of 3 pals, who can do something bad to you (but that is really rare in real life anyway), but ending up in car where 51 persons are all in some kind of plot to rob (kill/have sexual abuse/do whatever you fear) you - that's just don't happen.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 10:56 AM   #1831
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Well, as a regular (well, not like every week, but regular enough) user of both open layout and compartments, I could state, that once you are asleep - there is no great difference.
And from position of personal security open layout have advantage of so called communal security - you can end up in a compartment with a bad company of 3 pals, who can do something bad to you (but that is really rare in real life anyway), but ending up in car where 51 persons are all in some kind of plot to rob (kill/have sexual abuse/do whatever you fear) you - that's just don't happen.
Wow stop watching Horror movies
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Old July 21st, 2013, 11:19 AM   #1832
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OPen layout sleepers are third-world-ish. They should be abolished by any respectable railway.
Like the open layout sleepers on air planes know as "Business Class". Should they e abolished too?
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Old July 21st, 2013, 12:01 PM   #1833
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Wow stop watching Horror movies
Well, for last 15 years or so I have read 2 or 3 realistic stories about "3 people came into compartment, drank all night and then started act weirdly/or aggressively". And 0 stories about "30...50 people came into open layout car, drank (or smth) all night and started acting weird"...
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Old July 21st, 2013, 12:07 PM   #1834
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Stories are anecdotal evidence. What are the official data for reported crimes on moving trains?
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Old July 21st, 2013, 12:24 PM   #1835
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Stories are anecdotal evidence. What are the official data for reported crimes on moving trains?
No, I'm only counted proofed stories.
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 02:12 PM   #1836
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Stories are anecdotal evidence. What are the official data for reported crimes on moving trains?
Very low. The only real concern is luggage theft in stations. You can protect yourself against that with a simple cable lock. The stories of people getting robbed in their sleep, or even gassed are urban legends.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 08:39 AM   #1837
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I actually think night trains are a tiny niche. Long trips should be done by airplanes or daytime-configured high-speed trains if available.
Compare to daytime travel, yes, it's a tiny niche, but the interesting contradiction seems to be that at this moment there is more demand than supply.

In Japan long distance night trains like the Sunrise Izumo/Seto are popular as ever, despite the excellent high speed network and available air routes. Especially the more luxury cabins are sold out well in advance.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 08:48 AM   #1838
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Tickets on transatlantic cruise ships sell out months in advance. That doesn't mean there is a large market for cruise ship travel between North America and Europe.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 09:12 AM   #1839
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Recently, I have first time travelled by EuroNight train (EN Metropol). I had expected Eurocity trains to be most comfortable and luxurious (especially if we are talking about night trains). Can't even describe my disappointment. The train was dirty, the carriages doesn't have air condition, the ventilation was not working. I would not like to describe how toilet looked and stink like. Each compartment has a window with negligible opening part. The whole train looked like low-grade passanger train between third world's capital and surroundings.
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Tickets on transatlantic cruise ships sell out months in advance. That doesn't mean there is a large market for cruise ship travel between North America and Europe.
But apparently there is money to be made... I thought that would be enough for you?
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