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Old October 2nd, 2013, 05:21 AM   #1901
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Ballast on high(er) speed tracks is so yesterday... railways at this point should be aiming to convert their tracks to ballastless tracks. Those sleek concrete bases with rails make for so much better quality...
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 09:51 PM   #1902
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yet another of your ridiculous statements.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 06:59 PM   #1903
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yet another of your ridiculous statements.
More than ridiculous... expensive.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 07:34 PM   #1904
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Eurostar confirms launch of London – Amsterdam services in December 2016

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I love the news, but the question is, how are they going to attract more tavellers if KLM/BA remain the cheaper way to get to London?
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Old October 4th, 2013, 11:15 AM   #1905
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4 hours of travel time city center to center I find will not completely do away with the airline competition, but will get rail a fair share of the market.
By the way, I would recommend you not to participate in an international discussion forum with a poem as motto that could be understood as irredentist.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 12:45 PM   #1906
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By the way, I would recommend you not to participate in an international discussion forum with a poem as motto that could be understood as irredentist.
Out of curiosity I just put that poem into Google translate...and it makes no sense to me at all.

What's it about please?
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Old October 4th, 2013, 02:28 PM   #1907
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The poem is written from the perspective of a German inhabitant of Silesia in 1945 who deplores that the German "fatherland lies bleeding from a thousand wounds." The narrator is speechless due to the fact that (s)he has been deported from the province of Silesia (annexed by Poland) to a more Western part of Germany.
While one should not belittle the trauma of deportation to ethnic Germans after WWII, it is of questionable taste to portray this without the wider context of German aggression and crimes against the people of Eastern Europe.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 04:43 PM   #1908
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While one should not belittle the trauma of deportation to ethnic Germans after WWII, it is of questionable taste to portray this without the wider context of German aggression and crimes against the people of Eastern Europe.
Yep, I can totally see now why such a poem is a little bit out of place on this thread...
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Old October 5th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #1909
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I love the news, but the question is, how are they going to attract more tavellers if KLM/BA remain the cheaper way to get to London?
Eurostar already offers 99,- UKP returns from London to Amsterdam.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #1910
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Eurostar already offers 99,- UKP returns from London to Amsterdam.
Eurostar + Thalys or Eurostar + crappy 1980s IC train?
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Old October 8th, 2013, 07:57 PM   #1911
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A forumer just posted this in the Spanish forum.
I wonder what it means:

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Old October 8th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #1912
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Looks like we now have a date for the direct TGV services between France and Spain
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Old October 8th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #1913
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Old October 9th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #1914
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Thello trains reduce services

Thello night trains between Paris and Roma will be cancelled this December due to low ridership.
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Old October 13th, 2013, 10:38 AM   #1915
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This December The Berlin-Moscow service will be canceled due to poor demand.

The Train No. 23/24 Paris-Moscow 39 hours service will still run. It stops in Berlin. New modern coaches and specially trained staff will make this a good option for long distance travellers that dislike flying (like me). Have in mind that a train passenger can bring a lot more luggage onto the train compared to the airplane.
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Old October 13th, 2013, 10:44 AM   #1916
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You can bring as much crap as you like on the plane. You only pay a bit more. Also, the train isn't that much cheaper and takes a hell of a lot longer. Returns from Munich to Moscow or St Petersburg on a plane costs as little as 180€.
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Old October 13th, 2013, 11:11 AM   #1917
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You can bring as much crap as you like on the plane. You only pay a bit more. Also, the train isn't that much cheaper and takes a hell of a lot longer. Returns from Munich to Moscow or St Petersburg on a plane costs as little as 180€.
Long distance train travel will never be entirely outcompeted by airlines. There will always be a demand for it for several reasons.

Luggage: no check in and you can carry as heavy bags as you're capable of.

Comfort: Plenty of space. Get some fresh air at the platforms during the stops. No turbulence, no shaky take offs/landings.

Access: You arrive in central Paris/Moscow not 15km outside the city centre.

Environmental friendly Zero pollution

Scenery: See the changing landscape or the bland clouds.

Options: If you change your mind you can exit at any station.

Many people travel long distance trains because they simply dont like to fly. Who wants to be trapped in a metalcylinder 10000m up in the sky?
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Old October 13th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #1918
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It's a niche service and yes the demand won't go completely to zero, however railways aren't making much of a profit from such services therefore they are liable to be shifted aside when capacity issues arise.

There is still one coach a day going from Basel to Moscow and one to Minsk.
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Old October 13th, 2013, 11:48 AM   #1919
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Long distance train travel will never be entirely outcompeted by airlines. There will always be a demand for it for several reasons.

Luggage: no check in and you can carry as heavy bags as you're capable of.

Comfort: Plenty of space. Get some fresh air at the platforms during the stops. No turbulence, no shaky take offs/landings.

Access: You arrive in central Paris/Moscow not 15km outside the city centre.

Environmental friendly Zero pollution

Scenery: See the changing landscape or the bland clouds.

Options: If you change your mind you can exit at any station.

Many people travel long distance trains because they simply dont like to fly. Who wants to be trapped in a metalcylinder 10000m up in the sky?
I do. It's only for a couple of hours, it's cheaper and better than being cooked up on a train for two days. And yes, long distance train services are being cancelled because it's so much quicker and often cheaper to fly. But around Europe I usually drive anyway. I use the plane a lot when I've got urgent matters to sort out in Holland or the UK.
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Old October 13th, 2013, 12:11 PM   #1920
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I've never used a train service longer than one night, but I imagine it must be incredibly boring to have to spend an entire day in one small room with several other people.

Road_UK: Of course most people prefer flying on such routes, but there is still 5-10% who'd rather take a train even if it means a travel time five times as long.
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