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Old June 18th, 2005, 11:45 PM   #61
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its a suburb....Lol... I said LA, the city...

suburbs...dont count..........to me...from that list...
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Old June 19th, 2005, 12:17 AM   #62
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for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponnesus
The Roman Antiquities of Dionysius of Halicarnassus

Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9

But north of the gulf, the first inhabitants are Greeks called Epirotes....

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Old June 19th, 2005, 01:43 AM   #63
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LA, the city, covers a lot of land
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Old June 19th, 2005, 01:59 AM   #64
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cities, areas that have a forward plan for the future are the most sustainable and progressive areas such as in the northwest and california should be of no suprise that they are the top of the list.

texas' cities very from houston (spot on for its lack of sustainability) to austin with its high marks. austin has ambitious plans concering its future beyond short term fixes while houston does not and just builds another freeway and its development is so short sighted that i'm afraid it will crash harder than buffalo, new york or detroit in the 70's as the infastructure further deteriotates, the population booms and the economy stagnates.
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Old June 19th, 2005, 02:21 AM   #65
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I would say: Great Lake States/Provinces, Quebec, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon etc.
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Old June 19th, 2005, 10:14 AM   #66
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The cities in Texas do vary as far as sustainability. Houston and Dallas are much better off than the fast growing cities on the border.Austin is doing good by planning ahead, but they werent prepared for all the people that have recently moved there in the last 10 yrs, the traffic is bad for a city that size. Houston is at least on the right track in lightrail just 15 years late. There are alot of reserviors and lakes in northeast and east TX and more could easily be built.
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Originally Posted by SILVERLAKE
Cali has more ecosytems than you can shake a stick at BABY!!!!! All beautiful places are prone to natural disasters, but dying in an earthquake in LA sure as hell beats the slow death of the MIDWEST!!!!
Great argument.. i'm convinced now
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Old August 29th, 2005, 01:02 PM   #68
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California is the most sustainable state and Quebec is the most sustainable province.
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Old August 29th, 2005, 02:19 PM   #69
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I wouldn't say Saskatchewan, since they depend on rain. Whenever there's a drought, they're in trouble.
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Old May 30th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #70
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BC or Quebec.

Both have enormous resource wealth which would sustain their provincial populations for centuries. They are rich in almost every valuable mineral and are blessed with hundreds of thousands of square miles of renewable wood lands.

Both BC and Quebec have very low population densities which would allow for small footprints on the lands the people occupy.

Both have large agricultural outputs although Quebec is geared towards dairy while BC is more wine and fruit oriented.

The trump card that both hold is vast supplies of cheap renewable hydro-electric power. Almost all electricity in both jurisdictions is hydro-electric, and both export sizable amounts of their output. Another benefit of the topography they are blessed with, is an abundance of fresh clean water.

All the requirements to build a sustainable society are present in these 2 provinces. Not only sustainable, but the ability to maintain a very rich population at the same time. I would give the edge to BC due to it's varied topography. Almost every ecosystem on earth exists in BC from plains to mountains, rainforest to desert, temperate to arctic, lakes/rivers to ocean. BC is unrivalled. It really is paradise.

In the USA, I would have to say Washington or Alaska, but they are not as fortunately endowed as BC or Quebec. Alaska loses points due to it's limited agricultural potential and reliance on oil and gas rather than clean hydro-electric. Washington has almost everything that BC has, but in smaller quantities. Washington has double the population in a jurisdiction a fraction the size of BC. Although not a huge problem, it is still less desirable if we are talking about sustainability.

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Old May 30th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #71
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As far as the world's most sustainable large city/county goes, Honolulu is the only American city that won this award from the U.N. (United Nation). It's also the only city that is constantly on the list of the world's most sustainable large cities. It won against cities like Singapore.

In 2004...

" The United Nations-endorsed International Awards for Livable Communities (LivCom) has awarded Honolulu the 1st place Gold Award as the most livable, sustainable large city in the world. Honolulu was one of 48 communities from 20 counties selected as finalists to participate in the competition held last week in Niagara, Canada. "

LivCom judges praised the City for advancing initiatives aimed at cutting pollution, decreasing dependence on imported oil, and expanding recycling of solid waste and wastewater. Examples of Honolulu’s progress in this area include the use of H-Power to reduce landfill disposal by 90 percent, and the Honouliuli water reclamation facility’s recycling of wastewater for commercial and agricultural purposes. "

LivCom cited Honolulu’s comprehensive energy program aimed at slashing electrical demand by utilizing renewable energy. In recent years the City’s co-generation facility at Honolulu Hale has reduced grid energy demand by as much as 80 percent. Honolulu has also converted more than 1,000 city vehicles to use biodiesel fuel and installed LED traffic lights at an annual electrical savings of more than $250,000. "

" A panel of international judges presented the City with the coveted 1st place Gold Award as a result of its innovation and leadership in planning, building and managing Honolulu sustainably. "

Honolulu is also on the United Nation list again for 2007. It also won numerous awards from other organizations like NewsWeek USA and environmental groups.


Or you could just to go U.N. site or Honolulu Advertiser (Main newspaper).

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