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Old July 14th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #441
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SMART ordered six 2-car Diesel Multiple Unit (DMU) FRA-compliant train sets from Sumitomo of America / Nippon Sharyo at a cost of $40 million ($6.67 million for each 2-car set).
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Old July 15th, 2012, 06:38 AM   #442
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Well, some third-rail systems collect current from top of rail (like UK Railways in South England), some from bottom of rail (like all Soviet metros). It easy to cover bottom collection type (you don't need the top side of rail anyway), but you can't cover top collection type (the top side must be accessible to current collector of the train)
Your statement seems to contradict with reality a little lol.

LUL and other english 3rd rail systems are the only major one's I know that don't cover their rails.

All other top collection 3rd rails that I know of are covered (NYCT, BART, LIRR). The MNR, which runs bottom collection 3rd rail actually doesn't cover their rail because it is harder to accidentally make contact with it.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:30 AM   #443
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SMART ordered six 2-car Diesel Multiple Unit (DMU) FRA-compliant train sets from Sumitomo of America / Nippon Sharyo at a cost of $40 million ($6.67 million for each 2-car set).
Sounds like a winner!

North San Diego County went with DMUs.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:51 AM   #444
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Sounds like a winner!

North San Diego County went with DMUs.
Yep. SMART actually used video of the Sprinter on its website to show what the rail system will look like. The Sprinter uses "Desiro" cars made by Seimens and are not FRA compliant.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 09:48 AM   #445
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Should have posted this here in the first place. Railfanning Caltrain at the Cab Car railfan window. Local train with nice K2 horn and bell, followed by an express run with a crappy K2 and bell.


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Old July 17th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #446
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Speaking of BART, here are some clips from the system that I shot two days ago on my trip to SF. Enjoy the amazing acceleration =) The riding videos should be up in a few days.
Wow!!!Super fast even! I would love to travel on BART.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 07:20 AM   #447
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another SMART update:


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Old July 18th, 2012, 08:08 AM   #448
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Looks great!

The SMART way to go also happens to be the cost-effective way to go!
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Old July 18th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #449
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That's quite a generous-sized right of way. Could put in a double track easily with room to spare, though who knows if it will ever be needed.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 12:25 PM   #450
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It's an existing freight ROW (NWP), so other than the "downtown" areas in San Rafael, Petaluma, etc. where they've built up to the tracks, the default cross-section should be about 100 ft wide. Apparently, they're going to build a bike / ped path right next to it, though, which will probably take off a minimum of 10 or 15 feet from that.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #451
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SMART construction updates from yesterday/today:











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Old July 20th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #452
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Wow!!!Super fast even! I would love to travel on BART.
Andy hope you can make it up sometime!

Things will be even better when the new BART cars come into service.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 05:20 AM   #453
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Andy hope you can make it up sometime!

Things will be even better when the new BART cars come into service.
yes, quite. I am hoping that they raise operations back to PL (performance level) 1 once the new cars are in service. Trains will actually travel closer to the advertised speed of 80 mph instead of the 66-70 they do now under PL2 lol.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 03:34 AM   #454
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yes, quite. I am hoping that they raise operations back to PL (performance level) 1 once the new cars are in service. Trains will actually travel closer to the advertised speed of 80 mph instead of the 66-70 they do now under PL2 lol.
However, often as not, lower/higher speeds in operations like BART owe less to do with capability, rather than union rules, etc.
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However, often as not, lower/higher speeds in operations like BART owe less to do with capability, rather than union rules, etc.
Interesting. Would you perhaps mind explaining a little more in depth?

In the mean time, enjoy a final batch of videos from my visit to the Bay Area, including VTA light rail, ACE commuter trains, and Capitol Corridor trains, in addition to a WHEELS tri-valley bus:







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Old July 25th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #456
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More SMARTness:

The Tamper, which 'surfaces' and aligns the tracks


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Old July 25th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #457
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Old August 6th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #458
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I've recently been to San Francisco and since I know the city and the Muni system quite well i've been taking advantage of the weekpass to get around the city.

But I'm curious and have some questions, I hope someone local can help.

- why do Muni Metro trains ride at such a low speed in the old streetcar tunnel under the twin peaks (Castro <-> West Portal)?
- why isn't the E Embarcadero line not running yet? I usually saw some backup oldtimer streetcars in this section and since the platforms at Folsom also have a lowfloor section I imagine the infrastructure would be read right? Is it because of the tight Muni budget?
- What about the extension of the F Market line from the Fishermans Wharf further to Fort Mason and Marina, any news there?

Thanks in advance!
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Old August 7th, 2012, 05:13 AM   #459
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I've recently been to San Francisco and since I know the city and the Muni system quite well i've been taking advantage of the weekpass to get around the city.

But I'm curious and have some questions, I hope someone local can help.

- why do Muni Metro trains ride at such a low speed in the old streetcar tunnel under the twin peaks (Castro <-> West Portal)?
- why isn't the E Embarcadero line not running yet? I usually saw some backup oldtimer streetcars in this section and since the platforms at Folsom also have a lowfloor section I imagine the infrastructure would be read right? Is it because of the tight Muni budget?
- What about the extension of the F Market line from the Fishermans Wharf further to Fort Mason and Marina, any news there?

Thanks in advance!
Good questions:

The old streetcar tunnel under Twin Peaks dates from circa 1912. Also there were some accidents in the downhill turn segment, thus the very slow speeds for the light rail trains entering under Market.

Plus, the Muni Metro signal "system" was done by inept political hacks without engineering backgrounds.

The F Line includes both the vintage streetcars on market as well as the segment on the NE Embarcadero.

F line extension to Ft Mason and Marina have been planned for many years, but its not a big priority.

Perhaps much like Greece, yes Muni has been living far above its means!
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The old streetcar tunnel under Twin Peaks dates from circa 1912.
I always thought it was 1918.
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