THE BELGIAN DREAM

[joshsam]

Originally Posted by Dahlis

Those houses look nice, or at least they would if they didnt all look the same. How about some colour belgium? Maybe some wood or plaster? Why all brick?

We build all brick yes...We just love bricks. Wooden houses are very rare. Some brick houses have a wooden structure but in most cases even the structure of the house is brick. It's very common in most of the N-european countries to build in brick...

@vovin: Mostly Flanders. In the south (Wallonia) people like to use nature stone like in this example:



@gonzo: It is, well Flanders at least, Wallonia is much less populated. Why is it striking? Flanders can be compaired with a big outspreaded metro area in the USA... There is almost no open space left in Flanders so it really doesn't matter that much anymore...

[Dahlis]

Originally Posted by joshsam

It's very common in most of the N-european countries to build in brick...

Not really, up here in the north (Sweden), we mostly use wood. And brick facades are often covered by painted plaster.

[joshsam]

Originally Posted by Dahlis

Not really, up here in the north (Sweden), we mostly use wood. And brick facades are often covered by painted plaster.

Well, France, Benelux, N-Germany and the UK...

[Jonesy55]

Also Denmark has a lot of exposed brick, so does Poland, I think the Baltic states maybe too, so that is most of Northern Europe.

[Iluminat]

In Poland we cover buildings(both new and old) with styrofoam and mineral wool routinely but brick imitations are used quite often.

[joshsam]

Is it also common to use red bricks like this for the supporting structure?
In Belgium almost every house is constructed like this...





This is mostly how the walls of Belgiam houses look. Inner layer of red fast building bricks, isolation layer(s), and then an outer layer of exposed brick availeble in all types and colors and sizes...

[Iluminat]

Is it also common to use red bricks like this for the supporting structure?

Yes both red and white bricks although for multi-family housing it's usually concrete skeleton filled with bricks("rama H"):

[Cedar Teeth]

Originally Posted by Yuri S Andrade

But, calm down: majority of Brazil people do NOT live in shit tiny houses. Proper sewer? In my state (11 million people), for example, virtually 100% of the houses get sewer.

Hahahahahahah where the hell did you get that data from? 100% of homes have sewer?

http://www2.rpc.com.br/aguasdoamanha/?p=413

http://www.parana-online.com.br/edit...ARES+DO+ESTADO

http://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/vidae...tml?id=1038157

Less than half of the people in your state have access to proper sanitation. And let's not forget Paraná is a role-model state by Brazilian standards, its above the average. The amount of people with access to sewer in the more average and poorer areas of the country is far less than that.

I, for example am a very hygienic person, so I can't tolerate people who say they live in a marvelous house by the beach, when they need to call the "limpa-fossa" every week to clean their home's basement. For those who are unfamiliar: limpa fossa is a massive vaccum cleaner attached to a tanker truck used by the most privilleged in Brazil to clean the feces they had stored under their homes for the week due to not having access to sanitation.
Just google limpa fossa and you will find hundreds of results for this business. The wealthy people living in those theresian mansions are privillged enough to afford a weekly limpa fossa service. They pay a hefty price for it, and it is a sign of status in the Brazilian upper class, because unlike the poor who just dump their raw excrements in cannals and lakes, the rich are classy enough to have their doodoo vacuumed by a truck and then dumped in those same rivers and cannals.

[joshsam]

There is no nedd to bring that up again...
We all know Brazilians like to see their country better than in reality. But don't we all?

[Cedar Teeth]

Originally Posted by joshsam

There is no nedd to bring that up again...
We all know Brazilians like to see their country better than in reality. But don't we all?

Yes we all do, the difference is that some fellow Brazilians can't do that without despising other countries. Its almost as if they needed to belittle random countries in order to feel good about their own. For example, its very hard to tell if Maria Thereza's first post was an attack on Belgium and Europe in general or a compliment to Brazil.

Its just this childish, sneaky, masked way some Brazilian forumers have to say "hey, my country is better than yours" in threads that had nothing to do with Brazil in the first place that disgusts me. That and limpa fossas

[joshsam]

Agree

[engenx4]

[joshsam]

So, what? It's not true?

[Yuri S Andrade]

Originally Posted by Cedar Teeth

Hahahahahahah where the hell did you get that data from? 100% of homes have sewer?

http://www2.rpc.com.br/aguasdoamanha/?p=413

http://www.parana-online.com.br/edit...ARES+DO+ESTADO

http://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/vidae...tml?id=1038157

Less than half of the people in your state have access to proper sanitation. And let's not forget Paraná is a role-model state by Brazilian standards, its above the average. The amount of people with access to sewer in the more average and poorer areas of the country is far less than that.

I, for example am a very hygienic person, so I can't tolerate people who say they live in a marvelous house by the beach, when they need to call the "limpa-fossa" every week to clean their home's basement. For those who are unfamiliar: limpa fossa is a massive vaccum cleaner attached to a tanker truck used by the most privilleged in Brazil to clean the feces they had stored under their homes for the week due to not having access to sanitation.
Just google limpa fossa and you will find hundreds of results for this business. The wealthy people living in those theresian mansions are privillged enough to afford a weekly limpa fossa service. They pay a hefty price for it, and it is a sign of status in the Brazilian upper class, because unlike the poor who just dump their raw excrements in cannals and lakes, the rich are classy enough to have their doodoo vacuumed by a truck and then dumped in those same rivers and cannals.

Originally Posted by Cedar Teeth

Yes we all do, the difference is that some fellow Brazilians can't do that without despising other countries. Its almost as if they needed to belittle random countries in order to feel good about their own. For example, its very hard to tell if Maria Thereza's first post was an attack on Belgium and Europe in general or a compliment to Brazil.

Its just this childish, sneaky, masked way some Brazilian forumers have to say "hey, my country is better than yours" in threads that had nothing to do with Brazil in the first place that disgusts me. That and limpa fossas

Well, on my city (the second largest in the state) is virtually 100% (link).

And could you please don't take me out of context. I have absolutely nothing to do with Mary T or her jingoistic attitudes. However, Joshsam did an unfair comment about Brazilian housing and my post was about this only.

[Ricbit]

Just love Belgium. Beautiful country indeed and all that suburbs shown there are quite nice. Urbanism is great.

[Turbosnail]

The Belgian dream is beer and chocolate.

[mhays]

These areas are almost as bad as the US.

[daneo2]

no offense, but what's the difference between the American dream, the Belgian dream, the Nigerian dream or wathever?
its all the same; living in a large , alone standing house with 2 cars in a suburban area.
i think its more or less the same, worldwide.

[Suburbanist]

Exactly! And we, in Europe, should feel fortunate we could strive for that dream, to a greater or lesser extent! Netherlands should loosen up its planning laws to allow more stand-alone houses in the Vinex and other new development.

[Dahlis]

Originally Posted by daneo2

no offense, but what's the difference between the American dream, the Belgian dream, the Nigerian dream or wathever?
its all the same; living in a large , alone standing house with 2 cars in a suburban area.
i think its more or less the same, worldwide.

I dont think any young people dream of that anymore.