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Old April 7th, 2006, 07:52 AM   #41
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does DART stand for Dublin Area Rapid Transit? or maybe Rail Transit?
lol i find it funny bc here in San Francisco we have BART, or Bay Area Rapid Transit

cheers to my irish friends from a croat

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Old April 7th, 2006, 07:28 PM   #42
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The amount of infrastructure being put in place in Ireland at the moment is incredible. There are motorways being planned left, right and centre.

They'll just have to be carefull that they don't cover the entire island in infrastructure and houses as that would spoil that beautifull country.
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Old May 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM   #43
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What I'm really hoping for is a revamp of the rail network sometime in the future. Right now it's shit compared to other places, isn't extensive at all, and is rediculously overpriced. BTW I've heard rumours about a proposal for a tram here in Cork. If that were to happen I'd be very happy .
Cork used to have trams before but they were dismantled
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Old June 9th, 2006, 03:34 AM   #44
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does DART stand for Dublin Area Rapid Transit? or maybe Rail Transit?
lol i find it funny bc here in San Francisco we have BART, or Bay Area Rapid Transit

cheers to my irish friends from a croat

The R stands for rapid as you surmise. Dublin Area rapid transit originally built in the 1980s.

For your information LUAS is the native Irish language word for Speed.
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Old December 21st, 2006, 10:46 AM   #45
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Ireland finally opens much-delayed Dublin tunnel

DUBLIN, Dec 20 (Reuters) - Ireland opened its largest ever engineering project on Wednesday -- a tunnel diverting commercial traffic out of the clogged streets of Dublin -- following years of delays and controversy.

The 750 million euro ($992 million) Dublin Port Tunnel, a flagship project in efforts to bring Ireland's infrastructure up to speed with its economy, was approved in 1999 with an initial estimated cost of 204 million Irish pounds ($262 million at the time) but was first mooted more than a decade ago.

The longest urban road tunnel in Europe, its opening has suffered repeated setbacks -- from leaks, to objections from residents, to criticism from hauliers, who say the 4.5 km (2.8 miles) long tunnel is too small for modern "supertrucks".

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern formally opened the tunnel to traffic, acknowledging there had been problems with some of the country's other big transport projects, such as the M50 motorway ring road around Dublin that is often choked with traffic.

Noting traffic would be much worse without the M50, Ahern made reference to Ireland's changing society in a speech.

"Irish people used to emigrate to Britain and the United States ... to work on great construction projects, from the London Underground to the trans-continental railway lines of North America, the Sydney Opera House or the Motorways of England," Ahern said.

Once one of the poorest countries in Europe, Ireland has undergone an economic boom in the past decade and now has one of the fastest growing economies in the region.

"Today, as we face into the twenty-first century, we are building twenty-first century infrastructure, and world class infrastructure at that, in our own country, for our own people, with our own resources," Ahern said.

Thousands of immigrants now flood into the country each year for work, many of them in the construction industry, as Ireland races to build roads, railways and housing to meet the needs of a growing, and increasingly wealthy, population.

The Dublin Port Tunnel will carry thousands of vehicles a day on twin-lane routes between Dublin docks and the city's M50 motorway network. Large trucks will be banned from Dublin city streets from February next year.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 04:49 PM   #46
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New LUAS Lines

At last, B1 Line is going ahead. And C1. And probably A1 in the end of the year... The only thing missing is the Bx, to connect Line A and Line B... But it will arrive...
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Old June 30th, 2010, 12:54 PM   #47
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DUBLIN | DART Underground

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Application launched to build underground rail in Dublin



30/06/2010 - 07:40:10
Rail chiefs today sought permission to press ahead with a €2.5bn Dart Underground in Dublin with work expected to begin within two years.

An application lodged with planning authorities maps out the proposed 7.6km twin tunnels to be bored under the city centre in an attempt to treble the number of rail passengers.

The project will connect the Northern and Kildare rail lines, with underground stations built at Spencer Dock, Pearse Station, St Stephen's Green, Christchurch and Heuston Station. A new overground station would also be built at Inchicore.

Transport minister Noel Dempsey refused to disclose how much funding the Government would have to contribute to the public-private partnership scheme.

The Government will apply to the European Investment Bank, which recently pledged €500m towards the Metro North project, for some of the financing.

Potential private backers have until July 20 to express an interest. Investors would take a share in profits under the plans.

"There has already been significant interest," Mr Dempsey's spokesman said.

Under the ambitious proposals, Dart Underground will link all of the capital's rail systems - Dart, Commuter, InterCity, Luas and Metro - to form for the first time a fully integrated rail network.

Iarnród Éireann believes the project could increase passengers three-fold to as many as 100 million journeys on the Greater Dublin rail system every year.

Mr Dempsey claimed the railway order application - the equivalent of planning permission for rail projects - was a major stepping stone towards a mass transit system for the city.

"Not only will this project connect Iarnród Éireann's routes it will also provide links with the Luas and Metro at St Stephens Green, Spencer Dock and Heuston stations," he said.

"It will also provide for new stations at Inchicore and Christchurch, thus opening up new areas for travel by train."

The plans are being submitted under the Government's Transport 21 investment programme.

The work involves building 8.6km of new railway - 7.6km of which will be in tunnels - from the CIE Inchicore Works to tie into the Northern mainline, south of East Wall Road and north of the Docklands area.

Iarnród Éireann said construction, involving two boring machines tunnelling under the city at an average depth of 24 metres, would be completed and the system up and running by 2018.

Up to 7,000 jobs are to be created during construction and thousands more indirectly with improved access to retail, commercial, leisure and tourist destinations in the city, it is claimed.

Frequency and capacity on the Dart Northern, Maynooth and Kildare lines would be increased while the Dart would be extended to Maynooth, Hazelhatch/Celbridge and the Northern line.

Pearse Station will become a central transport hub connecting all lines.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/a...#ixzz0sKO4VRIV

The Metro underground line is due planning permission before the end of the month. Both lines will probrably be built in tandem.

Schematic Underground DART (Interconnecter)



Metro North Map (blue line)

http://www.transport21.ie/Maps/uploa...nRailMapBG.jpg


I think we are beginning to see the start of less focus on roads in Ireland.

These two lines are massive and will revolutionise transport in the city by linking all modes of transport. Metro, Tram, Electric Rail and core bus services.


More on both projects here

Interconnector

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=842626


Metro North (Dublin City Center - Dublin Airport - Northern Suburbs)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=709326
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Old July 1st, 2010, 12:28 AM   #48
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I wonder if they will take the opportunity to start switchover to standard gauge or will continue to use Broad gauge.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 03:04 AM   #49
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I wonder if they will take the opportunity to start switchover to standard gauge or will continue to use Broad gauge.
Metro North is probably going to be built in standard gauge while any new DART lines will still be broad gauge.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 03:26 PM   #50
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I wonder if they will take the opportunity to start switchover to standard gauge or will continue to use Broad gauge.
There next to no benefit in changing gauge.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 05:28 PM   #51
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This tunnel is connecting to the existing rail network so it has to be Irish gauge.

The Metro project will be standard gauge though, it's a completely new line and system.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 08:09 PM   #52
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Good to see not one, but two metro networks in Dublin.
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So, just to clarify, is this correct?:

1). DART = Electrified suburban rail (may have at-grade crossings)
2). Metro = Grade-separated heavy-rail (similar to L.U./Berlin U-Bahn/NYC Subway)
3). Luas = Tram (street running/some separate ROW)

From what I understand, Dublin also has suburban rail that doesn't fall under DART, and National Rail Service.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 10:40 PM   #54
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So, just to clarify, is this correct?:

1). DART = Electrified suburban rail (may have at-grade crossings)
2). Metro = Grade-separated heavy-rail (similar to L.U./Berlin U-Bahn/NYC Subway)
3). Luas = Tram (street running/some separate ROW)

From what I understand, Dublin also has suburban rail that doesn't fall under DART, and National Rail Service.
Yes, that is correct except Metro North may be a light style rail in the end. None of the systems are particularly large atm. Dart lines currently only on the coast whilst the Luas lines are not connected yet. Integration is the major issue that has to be addressed.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 10:45 PM   #55
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Yes, that is correct except Metro North may be a light style rail in the end. None of the systems are particularly large atm. Dart lines currently only on the coast whilst the Luas lines are not connected yet. Integration is the major issue that has to be addressed.
I envision it as being a lighter metro, similar to the Copenhagen Metro or the Hamburg U-bahn.
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So, just to clarify, is this correct?:

1). DART = Electrified suburban rail (may have at-grade crossings)
2). Metro = Grade-separated heavy-rail (similar to L.U./Berlin U-Bahn/NYC Subway)
3). Luas = Tram (street running/some separate ROW)

From what I understand, Dublin also has suburban rail that doesn't fall under DART, and National Rail Service.
Yeah it is quite messy. The Metro is light rail though like the Porto Metro rather than New York, London etc. Essentially same as Luas but longer trains (90m vs 50) and full grade separation. The Metro and Luas are supposed to be inter-operable in theory anyway.

The suburban trains are simply branded as "Commuter" trains. Some of these lines will be electrified and upgraded to DART as part of this project, creating 2 cross-city lines instead of the one coastal DART line now.
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Interesting, the title caught my eye, DART (Dallas Area Rapid Transit)
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 01:06 PM   #58
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I envision it as being a lighter metro, similar to the Copenhagen Metro or the Hamburg U-bahn.
Hamburg U-bahn is not a light metro, is a full metro.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 04:24 PM   #59
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Interesting, the title caught my eye, DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit)

Fixed that for you :p


I thought someone from Dallas would point that out. Hello fellow DART user.
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Old July 5th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #60
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May as well stick the latest videos up here to safe sifting through threads...

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