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Old February 9th, 2011, 12:50 PM   #101
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:55 PM   #102
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Nice map.

Interesting the old trams went up Dawson street, just like the cross-city line will, even though Grafton street wasn't pedestrianised in those days.
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 12:14 AM   #103
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COMBINATION OF OLD & NEW SYSTEM

Current route 1 (green line) uses former route 15 from St. Stephens Green to Char Lemont (after that it follows an old suburban rail alignment).

Current route 2 & 3 (red line) crosses many former routes on Abbey Street stop, former route 25 at Museum, former route 21 at James’s and touches former route 19 at Rialto.

The proposed extension of route 1 to Broom Bridge will use former route 26 from St. Stephens Green to Dominick and will cross route 5 & 9 near Grange Gorman.

The proposed new route 5 to Newcastle Road will use former route 21 from Trinity College to James’s.

The proposed new route 7 to Dun drum will touch former route 21 at Christchurch, will use former route 16 & 17 from Harold’s Cross to Rathfarnham. A part of down line will use former route 15 at Terenure.

How history repeats!!!

1) Route 2 & 3 (red line) uses a small part on Abbey street of former network (near the white statue).
2) Route 1 (green line) runs through Char Lemont Street following former route 15 up to Char Lemont.
3) Route 1 extension will run via a tiny part of North Meridian Road, then through Dawson Street, Nassau Street, Westmoreland Street, O Connell Bridge, Sackville Street, Cavendish Row and College Street (for loop completing), and up to Dominick following former route 26. All these streets mentioned here served by tram before 1949.
4) New Route 5 to Newcastle Road will use James Street following former route 21 up to James’s.
5) New Route 7 to Dun drum will use Harold’s Cross Road and Rathfarnham Road following former route 16 & 17 up to Rathfarnham. Part of down line will use Terenure Road following former route 15.

So O’Connell Bridge, Trinity College, College Green, former place of Nelson Pillar, Terenure, Rathfarnham etc. will be served again by tram around 2012!!! Ooooh, I just can’t imagine.



Former Terenure tram terminus. New network will run tram upwards as single line towards left way, and downwards also as single line from straight way. Front side tram tracks were used by steam trams.



Former Sandymount tram depot today.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM   #104
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Harcourt Street station with old tram.



Harcourt Street station with new tram.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 01:49 AM   #105
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Is DART pretty nice and reliable? I would have much preferred to be living along a LUAS line, but alas, later this year I'll be using DART quite often!
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Old March 20th, 2011, 03:30 AM   #106
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Is DART pretty nice and reliable? I would have much preferred to be living along a LUAS line, but alas, later this year I'll be using DART quite often!
I use the DART a bit; it's very quick and reliable. Don't forget to get a smart-card for lower fares.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #107
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I was thinking of getting weekly passes! Seemed like the cheapest method, no?
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Old March 20th, 2011, 10:22 PM   #108
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It probably would be, if you're going to be commuting every day. Check the fares here to see which is cheapest for you.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:08 PM   #109
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A video about proposed St Stephens Green station for Metro and DART underground






Just be wary on the DART - some prick may get on the train with a trumpet at 7am


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Old March 31st, 2011, 07:55 PM   #110
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Please try to answer these -
1) What is the target year of opening new tram route to Dundrum via Rathfarham?
2) Reserved or unreserved, - which type of track layout is common in Dublin tramway network?
3) Which is the busiest tram terminus?
4) Which termini have interchange facility with suburban rail network?
5) Where is/are the depot(s) of the tramway network?
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Old April 12th, 2011, 03:53 AM   #111
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Only one of the three planned Dublin lines will survive:

http://www.subways.net/ireland/dublin.htm

The Transport Minister thinks it will be the airport metro, meaning DART underground is dead for now.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 03:14 PM   #112
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Please try to answer these -
1) What is the target year of opening new tram route to Dundrum via Rathfarham?
2) Reserved or unreserved, - which type of track layout is common in Dublin tramway network?
3) Which is the busiest tram terminus?
4) Which termini have interchange facility with suburban rail network?
5) Where is/are the depot(s) of the tramway network?
1) There isn't one, it's only had a feasibility study.
2) 'Network' is a strong word :P The Green Line is almost completely segregated on an old rail alignment, whereas much of the Red Line runs on streets or medians.
3) My guess would be St. Stephan's Green on the Green Line.
4) Only the Red Line at Conolly Station is directly connected to a train station.
5) The Red Line depot is at the Red Cow M50/N7 junction in West Dublin, the Green Line depot is in Sandyford Industrial Estate.


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Only one of the three planned Dublin lines will survive:

http://www.subways.net/ireland/dublin.htm

The Transport Minister thinks it will be the airport metro, meaning DART underground is dead for now.
Leo Varadker hasn't indicated which project is likely to go ahead, just given the usual talk about each project being reviewed. Nothing really new there, just saying something that was already obvious.Metro North (which isn't an 'airport metro', that's just one of many stops along the line) is the furthest progressed in the planning process and is therefore seen as the most likely.

Also, you may want to link to a different website as there is a lot of misinformation on that one. Barely a sentence goes by without something wrong

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Old April 16th, 2011, 06:56 PM   #113
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What was incorrect on it?

Also, of the three lines, I read that one has already begun construction. Is this true?

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Old April 16th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #114
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What was incorrect on it?
Almost every sentence. Unfortunately I'm not exaggerating

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Also, of the three lines, I read that one has already begun construction. Is this true?
No. Enabling works only so far for Metro North (I think over €100million), contracts have yet to be signed
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Old June 21st, 2011, 09:12 PM   #115
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Citywest Luas link to open 2 July
Updated: 16:28, Tuesday, 21 June 2011



The Rail Procurement Agency has announced the Citywest Luas extension will open on 2 July.

The RPA says the 4km extension, part funded by property developers, will add two million passengers a year to the light rail network.

The link will add five new stops to the Red Line line, including a park and ride facility at Cheeverstown, and will terminate in Saggart.

A group of developers - Davy Hickey Properties, Harcourt Developments and Jim Mansfield's HSS - contributed 55% of the total cost of €150m.

It is the third addition to the Luas system following the Cherrywood extension and the opening of the Docklands line.

The RPA is awaiting a decision from An Bord Pleanála and a decision on Government funding concerning the future of the BXD project which would link up the Red and Green lines in Dublin city centre.

Story from RTÉ News:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0621/luas.html
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:12 AM   #116
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But they are giant projects. The Dublin Metro will be by far the largest project in the EU next year. And the DART underground is basically the same as London's crossrail.

If these two projects were smaller I would agree. But they are not. They are huge.

Also the Ireland forum was only started recently. It is growing but obviously it takes time to filter down. I don't want these projects in one thread because they are so big and complicated that other users will lose track (pardon the pun!) and switch off. We have a transport forum in the Ireland section.........but we also have dedicated threads for these projects. And it works very well.

In my view these projects should not be in the one thread. They are too big and complicated. Please keep it to two threads. One for DART underground the other for Metro. They are two completely different big projects.
Isn't Crossrail in London something like £16 Billion?
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 11:59 PM   #117
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But the most important project should be completed as soon as possible the connection of RED & GREEN tram lines.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #118
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http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/new...extension.html

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Citywest PPP adds third Luas extension

04 July 2011

IRELAND: Minister for Transport, Tourism & Sport Leo Varadkar opened the western branch of Dublin’s Luas Red Line to Citywest and Saggart on July 2. Following the Red Line eastern link to Docklands and the Green Line southern extension to Sandyford, it is the third city’s third light rail extension to open in the past 18 months.

The 4·2 km Citywest branch diverges from the existing Red Line at Belgard and runs to Garter Lane in Saggart. It serves five stops including a 312 space Park & Ride facility at Cheeverstown, and is expected to generate around 2 million passenger journeys per year.

Journey time from Saggart to central Dublin will be around 50 min. Around one tram in three on the Red Line will run to Citywest, giving a 10 min headway on the branch and a 6 min headway on the existing Red Line to Tallaght at peak times.

Designated Line A1, the €150m extension has been developed under a PPP joint venture between Railway Procurement Agency and the Citywest Luas Ltd grouping of landowners and business interests developing new suburbs to the west of the capital, such as Cairnwood, Ambervale, Belgard Green, Fettercairn, Kilmartin, Brookview and Ard Mor. CLL brings together Davy Hickey Properties, Harcourt Development Ltd and HSS (Mansfield Group). Having originated the proposal, CLL provided land for the new line, and undertook construction works on behalf of RPA, before handing it over on completion. CLL’s total contribution is put at around 55% of the overall project cost.

Speaking at the launch ceremony in Fettercairn, RPA Chief Executive Frank Allen said ‘the high frequency service provided by Luas Citywest will improve the quality of life for the residents of West Tallaght and will improve the competitiveness of business in the area.’ Describing Luas as ‘Dublin's best public transport success story’, Varadkar said the two light rail lines had carried more than 177 million passengers since the first section opened seven years ago. ‘Uniquely among rail lines in Ireland, it has operated a surplus and has not needed a subsidy. Luas has been a great success. This new line will make it even better, and I hope it will not be the last.’
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Old October 18th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #119
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Old October 18th, 2011, 04:27 AM   #120
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