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Old August 30th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #2001
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The digging of foundations began on July 20. A huge factory was built to manufature modules of steel and concrete for Sky City. Is that real info?


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Old August 30th, 2013, 07:52 PM   #2002
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They keep pushing it back. I haven't read any of the prior pages but I'm skeptical given how August 2013 has now turned to April 2014. At this rate, it will begin construction November 3005.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #2003
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yes they are digging for foundations, that indeed is true.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 08:53 PM   #2004
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i don't think it will take too long until they really start with the foundations itself
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Old August 30th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #2005
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yes they are digging for foundations, that indeed is true.
According to nytimes they don't (they stopped).
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Old August 31st, 2013, 05:28 AM   #2007
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Beautiful building, it is like a bigger version of the Sears Tower in Chicago. How exciting!
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Old August 31st, 2013, 05:28 AM   #2008
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Any news about the mini sky city?
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Old August 31st, 2013, 07:34 AM   #2009
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This should of been built to fit into a skyline, not a barren landscape.
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Old August 31st, 2013, 07:43 AM   #2010
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Nice update, thats good news! I like the diagram comparison which shows how big is the future supertall...!
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Old August 31st, 2013, 04:42 PM   #2011
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This should of been built to fit into a skyline, not a barren landscape.
Try to think of it this way: How many single family houses would be built and how much land would they occupy compared to this tower? Consider streets, fire hydrants, powerlines, curbs, Traffic lights, sidewalks, etc. Now imagine a world where this 'urban sprawl' is eliminated and only nature surrounds our towers. One train line between each tower, or group of towers. No roads. No traffic.

MUCH better idea.
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Old September 1st, 2013, 06:57 AM   #2012
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MUCH better idea.
If you like living in a hi-rise and many people do not. Forcing people to be unhappy 'because it is what is best' does not work.
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Old September 1st, 2013, 08:04 AM   #2013
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No ones forcing you to live in it. Of course highrise living isn't for everyone, but it is increasing in popularity around the world, which is a great thing!
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 07:32 AM   #2014
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Try to think of it this way: How many single family houses would be built and how much land would they occupy compared to this tower? Consider streets, fire hydrants, powerlines, curbs, Traffic lights, sidewalks, etc. Now imagine a world where this 'urban sprawl' is eliminated and only nature surrounds our towers. One train line between each tower, or group of towers. No roads. No traffic.

MUCH better idea.
Unless a majority the building's offices and retail employees are all housed in that very same building, "no traffic" isn't quite correct. Instead, you would have an enormous demand on the transport system going to/from that site.

Plus, I think the problem that people like me have with continually building supertall skycrapers in developing countries is that you lose the "cohesiveness" of a city and the connection btwn people. All of these buildings are built on huge swathes of land, with wide roads and plazas separating them from the next plot of land/building. Sure, all of this setback from the street opens up the sidewalk so the skies and allows for more trees and plantings, something that conventional European and American crowded cities don't have. But the new approach creates a solitary environment, where you just stay in your building b/c going out means having to walk long, empty blocks to a store for lunch, let's say.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:09 AM   #2015
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 02:15 PM   #2016
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Elevator Plan how structured?
Where is the nearest subway station?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 02:23 PM   #2017
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Unless a majority the building's offices and retail employees are all housed in that very same building, "no traffic" isn't quite correct. Instead, you would have an enormous demand on the transport system going to/from that site.

But the new approach creates a solitary environment, where you just stay in your building b/c going out means having to walk long, empty blocks to a store for lunch, let's say.
I will agree with you on this point. Looking at the plans for this building it looks mostly residential, so people would have to leave to work. Shopping and eating should be along the center walking areas, but I'm not sure this is the plan.

Since this is the first of its kind, I was still considering future super towers where 500,000 people would live, like the Tokyo Sky City concept only bigger.

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Old September 3rd, 2013, 07:00 PM   #2018
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It is basically an 800 metre version of Sears/Willis Tower.
It uses the same bundled tube and all steel structure, and multiple setbacks.
It has different cladding (still fairly dark though based on the renders), there are more tubes (32 vs 9), and the tubes are smaller (16m vs 25m), but there are definitely a lot of similarities with Sears/Willis Tower.
Here is a render I did to comare Sky City, Sears/Willis and 432 Park Ave, it really shows how huge this thing will be!
I have all new respect for this tower after seeing this diagram. Its sheer scale is a marvel!!
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Old September 5th, 2013, 10:53 AM   #2019
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This building it's the first of it's kind. Sure it is not the "perfect" environment where you live and work in the same building, having all the leisures at the nearest floor and schools, hospitals and police stations inside it. But think of it as stepping stone. In the future there will be a lot more buildings like this, taller and more sophisticated.

We just need to give some credits to this skyscraper as been the first attempt to build an arcological building. We will see how much we would learn from this building when the next arcological buildings will be constructed.
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Unless a majority the building's offices and retail employees are all housed in that very same building, "no traffic" isn't quite correct. Instead, you would have an enormous demand on the transport system going to/from that site.

Plus, I think the problem that people like me have with continually building supertall skycrapers in developing countries is that you lose the "cohesiveness" of a city and the connection btwn people. All of these buildings are built on huge swathes of land, with wide roads and plazas separating them from the next plot of land/building. Sure, all of this setback from the street opens up the sidewalk so the skies and allows for more trees and plantings, something that conventional European and American crowded cities don't have. But the new approach creates a solitary environment, where you just stay in your building b/c going out means having to walk long, empty blocks to a store for lunch, let's say.
There are quite bit of new residential highrises going up in adjecent areas to Sky City, so hopefully they are alreadying addressing the issue. The thing is, they need to build mass transit systems so that the majority of residents will not travel by personal vehicles, which is the biggest cause of traffic. I don't think traffic congestion will be that bad if buses and light rail can meet most people's transportation demand.
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