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Old January 2nd, 2014, 05:04 PM   #2341
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We're not even getting any updates on the smaller supertall that's supposed to be under construction. This is pointless.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 05:49 AM   #2342
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i have a paper model waiting in the wings here it is have fun and beat it to the sky
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:30 PM   #2343
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We're not even getting any updates on the smaller supertall that's supposed to be under construction. This is pointless.
Indeed. I was fascinated by the Sky City concept since I first heard of it, but every time any new information comes out it's always about some new delay or approval wait.

I get the feeling that China may be realizing it can't keep the "construction for construction's sake" part of its economy booming for too much longer. I'd love to see this project go up, but economic realities may be catching up with it. Hopefully we'll get some actual foundation work going on this year.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:34 PM   #2344
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I get the feeling that China may be realizing it can't keep the "construction for construction's sake" part of its economy booming for too much longer.
Assuming that's what they're actually doing.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 08:02 PM   #2345
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Indeed. I was fascinated by the Sky City concept since I first heard of it, but every time any new information comes out it's always about some new delay or approval wait.

I get the feeling that China may be realizing it can't keep the "construction for construction's sake" part of its economy booming for too much longer. I'd love to see this project go up, but economic realities may be catching up with it. Hopefully we'll get some actual foundation work going on this year.
I agree with you. I think this is their "one bridge too far", a massively overreaching proposal which usually signals the coming end of a building boom - just like the Chicago Spire in 2007/2008. I don't think this will get built.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 08:17 PM   #2346
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I don't think the two are all too comparable. This structure is supposed to provide a solution to the lack of affordable housing, there is urgent demand for such a solution. What urgent demand was there for the Spire? It was a purely speculative effort.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 02:28 AM   #2347
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This building might eventually get built, but I don't think it will be any time soon...
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:49 AM   #2348
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Come on, no building would look that bad after 5 years.
Well, they do. In fact visible degradation of cosmetic structures as well as visible cracks in supporting concrete all appear within months of many structures I have looked into around my area. These are 6 - 12 floor buildings.

It's more or less an instantaneous occurrence. The concrete dries and it cracks.

As far as water stains being trivial, they are not. Water is the most pernicious environmental item. Water stains show that water is seeping into places one does not want water to go, and water has tremendous hydraulic properties when it heats/cools melts/freezes.

Water stains, aka efflorescence, are anything but cosmetic.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 04:28 PM   #2349
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I don't think the two are all too comparable. This structure is supposed to provide a solution to the lack of affordable housing, there is urgent demand for such a solution. What urgent demand was there for the Spire? It was a purely speculative effort.
You are absolutely right about finding a solution to affordable housing and creating more green spaces inside the cities. Hopefully they can kill two birds with one stone with projects like this.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #2350
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http://http://www.channelnewsasia.co...ll/956168.html
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"I could make an even taller building"

Close to Zhang's office, workers in a cavernous hangar welded together the pre-fabricated building sections, and he insisted there would be "no problems" using the method to build Sky City.

"We will be finished by December," he said. "I could make an even taller building."
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Old January 17th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #2351
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They want to finish Sky City by the end of the year? I've my doubts but it would be great!
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #2352
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that's no news, that's talk instead of promising completion dates they should provide progress.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:21 PM   #2353
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that's no news, that's talk instead of promising completion dates they should provide progress.
My thoughts exactly

To me, this has never been a serious proposal. More like a pipe dream...

I mean come on, does anyone around here actually believe they can erect the tallest building in the world within a few months?

And I can't imagine some pre-fabricated steel could ever handle the huge wind forces and the sheer mass of the structure. And what about earthquakes? Or incidents like 9/11! A fire like that would highly affect the steel structure and could eventually cause a collapse similar to the twin towers...

No way to build this tall without concrete. For static, dynamic and safety reasons. And once they have to use concrete, the construction process obviously becomes much slower. You can hardly build faster than 1 floor per 2-3 days.

But after all that's just my 2 cents
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:30 PM   #2354
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Or incidents like 9/11!
Not going to happen. It takes a special level of incompetence to let your air defense sit on their asses for over an hour while planes veer off course and head towards a major city center. I don't think the Chinese would be that foolish.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #2355
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Not going to happen. It takes a special level of incompetence to let your air defense sit on their asses for over an hour while planes veer off course and head towards a major city center. I don't think the Chinese would be that foolish.
Accidents happen as well... and it could as well be a regular fire getting out of control. No building is 100% fireproof.
My point is that for maximum security you need to build in concrete.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:38 PM   #2356
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Yeah, I agree as I was one of many people who previously posted in this thread that this building technique can't possibly work for a megatall.
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Old January 18th, 2014, 01:23 PM   #2357
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This tower will never getting built.
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Old January 18th, 2014, 09:41 PM   #2358
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This tower will never getting built.
Are you fairy ?
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Old January 18th, 2014, 10:20 PM   #2359
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This tower will never getting built.
Of course it won't ... not in the next thousand years that is!! this tower is a joke
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Old January 18th, 2014, 10:31 PM   #2360
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Where is your basis for that? They've already started the prep work.
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