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Old September 15th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #681
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Wow nice to see a lot of progress in a sense here. I seemed to have preferred the old design but then again I looked at the PDFs and thought that layout seemed to make quite a lot of sense for the average apartment. The + is pretty cool though and symetric.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #682
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More aerodynamic shape is necessary

According several structural engineers and architects the current design isn't aerodynamic enough which is a major cause of concern for a tower of such incredible height according to the Arabian Business article:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/can-c...s--469055.html


Chinese companies have more than enough experience in building aerodynamic super tall buildings and the Broad Group should consult them so they can realize their dream of building a man made marvel.

There are already several Chinese architects and designers who have been busy designing iconic buildings recognizable for uniqueness and unconventional aesthetics pleasing to the eyes:

http://inequalityreduced.blogspot.co...ar-hotels.html

Broad group should consult them and build unique buildings with advanced materials that rivals even the finest of what western thinkers can imagine and prove that China has truly emerged as an innovative nation.


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Old September 15th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #683
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I don't think the design is final. They said they are consulting AS+GG for the design, we should wait and see.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #684
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If they can prefab square and rectangular modules, I can't see why they couldn't take a huge CC machine if you will (ok kidding) to just do rounding and build up a smooth shape via each module from there. I'm confident AS+GG will help them figure it out.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 04:00 AM   #685
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If they can prefab square and rectangular modules, I can't see why they couldn't take a huge CC machine if you will (ok kidding) to just do rounding and build up a smooth shape via each module from there. I'm confident AS+GG will help them figure it out.
But then the building won't be as quick and cheap to build, which seems to be the whole point. Without the low cost as the main selling point, they certainly won't be able to justify such a huge building.

Such a pity, because I like boxy skyscrapers.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:26 PM   #686
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The whole concept is based on modular building making fasting construction, not on box shaped structures.
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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #687
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This building looks mad!
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Old September 16th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #688
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The whole concept is based on modular building making fasting construction, not on box shaped structures.
i think it will still have a rather boxy shape. but we will see, i hope for a nice modern building. and i hope it reaches its height without needing a 200m spire on top
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Old September 16th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #689
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Well, the only panels that'd need any modification might be the edge-most for rounded parts. That'd still create extra work and delay to install, yeah. Perhaps half or quarters of rectangular modules that would step the building facade back as opposed to a straight + at 90 degrees.

I'm sure BSB and AS+GG can certainly figure out a way to where BSB's prefab methods can be worked out with the suggested or required structural improvements that AS+GG could inform them on. Not worried.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #690
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yes they will figure a way out which looks awesome and is practical
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Old September 17th, 2012, 02:04 PM   #691
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Not many people are complaining about these buildings (maybe for their prices) .

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Old September 17th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #692
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i think it will still have a rather boxy shape. but we will see, i hope for a nice modern building. and i hope it reaches its height without needing a 200m spire on top
The modular system designed and employed by BSB implies a boxy design for anything they build, but this doesn't automatically rule out various strategies against wind resistance from being successful. There are many examples of boxy skyscrapers that nevertheless withstood strong winds. The WTC twin towers would be a prime example. BSB might need to design a new kind of cladding to fit the higher reaches of the tower, but such wouldn't be too much of a weight on cost and construction time.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #693
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The curved three-point footprint is similar to the megatalls in the Middle East, and may address the wind concerns.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #694
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and i hope it reaches its height without needing a 200m spire on top
yeh, that would be perfect!

but at least i hope to see the first Building with more than 200 floors
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Old September 17th, 2012, 09:34 PM   #695
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but at least i hope to see the first Building with more than 200 floors
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Old September 18th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #696
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If they can prefab square and rectangular modules, I can't see why they couldn't take a huge CC machine if you will (ok kidding) to just do rounding and build up a smooth shape via each module from there. I'm confident AS+GG will help them figure it out.
I think another aspect is transportation, boxy shaped modules are much easier to ship than irregular shapes such as curved surfaces.
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Old September 19th, 2012, 06:11 AM   #697
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I think another aspect is transportation, boxy shaped modules are much easier to ship than irregular shapes such as curved surfaces.
No, you're right. Maybe I didn't explain myself quite clearly. I meant each box module could start to form part of a curve in plan only. Add several modules up and you could achieve a smooth curve. Like bricks building an arch, except horizontal. There's no doubt in my mind that to make their facade and prefab work, that vertically this building will be nothing different than orthagonal / square / straight lines. If I somehow implied that they'd be doing more modern, wavy, and esoteric designs with the floorplans or facade than I didn't explain myself, sorry. I don't think that'll be the case here.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #698
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If it ends up looking like this, I might end up liking it a bit. I'm so happy they ditched the X design (Ugliest thing ever)
I still find it ugly and disproportional, though. If they removed the very first setback, and that cube on top, it would look MUCH better.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #699
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i just saw those on ssp was going to post them lol, i think that actually looks beautiful
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Amazing what a proper render can make a pile of crap like this look.
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