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Old October 22nd, 2012, 11:34 PM   #801
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If this tower is supposed to start in November shouldn't it at least be approved right now? And to think that the prep stage might only take a week or two for this tower to be able to complete it in approximately 120 days. Absolutely amazing!
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 01:29 AM   #802
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Quality materials don't change design. Location changes opinions, though.

@ amastroi It might have been approved already without it being recognized by the media. We'll see soon, though.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 01:41 PM   #803
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The scary thing is, it's not even 210 days they are shooting for. It's 120 days.
Nope.

Most recent declaration is 210 days.

It’s hard to say for sure that the 16-million-square-foot plan isn’t entirely a publicity stunt. But Zhang has hired some of the engineers who worked on the current height-record holder, Dubai’s Burj Khalifa, and Broad has created two large models of “Sky City” (as the J220 has been nicknamed). The foundation is scheduled to be laid in November at a site in Hunan; if everything goes well, the building will be complete in March 2013.

That's a seven-month, or 210-day construction schedule, far longer than the 90-day period the company originally projected. Even so, it's practically light-speed when it comes to highrise construction; the Burj took five years to build, in comparison.

BSB plans to do the work quickly by using a proprietary prefabrication technique. It eventually hopes to sell standardized skyscrapers around the world and become the "McDonald’s of the sustainable building industry," writes Hilgers.


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Btw, I hope they won't pull up the same skyscraper in more places in the world. If there's no variety in the design, than that's a new chapter of "globalization" and cultural loss to be afraid of.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 05:35 PM   #804
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i will not believe it until i see it, so china, show us how awesome you are
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Old October 24th, 2012, 01:01 AM   #805
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Isn't November to March five months instead of seven?
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Old October 24th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #806
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I think they will indeed build it. However, I believe it will be a temporary structure and disasembled shortly after they finish. I think this is just to prove that it can be gone. Not really a plublicity stunt but a technology stunt.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 06:18 AM   #807
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One month for the foundations? 120 days for the whole building??
I know that some of you guys seriously believe that this is actually gonna happen but I think you're all punk'd!
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Old October 24th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #808
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I think they will indeed build it. However, I believe it will be a temporary structure and disasembled shortly after they finish. I think this is just to prove that it can be gone. Not really a plublicity stunt but a technology stunt.
Building an 838m tall tower just for show and destroying it again short after? That sounds a bit too crazy to me.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 10:04 AM   #809
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Isn't November to March five months instead of seven?
I thought the same thing. Either they meant to write "May", or their math is seriously off.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 10:22 AM   #810
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it kind of reminds me of the sears tower in chicago.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #811
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I would have thought the hardest thing would be accelerating the foundations. However I'm prepared to believe they can accelerate the assembly of pre-fabricated sections. To an extent that simply means the building is built beforehand, and merely assembled quickly, but even so, it will likely prove more efficient than current techniques.

And whilst we should retain a healthy scepticism, comparable advances have been made before. Containerisation revolutionised shipping in this way. McLean did not invent the shipping container, just as these guys have not invented pre-fabricated buildings. However if they can systematise and standardise pre-fabrication of buildings, then construction can be much faster and cheaper. Imo this is more important than the redundant WTB title, especially given that the proposed design is architecturally inferior to the Burj Khalifa.

That last point about architecture begs a question. Do we really want standardised pre-fabricated buildings? They may be efficient, but are they desirable? They'd certainly have an application in slum clearance, for instance, but I know I'd rather live in a city of expensively bespoke buildings than something resembling a container port.
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I'd be interested in how much cost is really saved using this technique.

I'm not sure the Chinese will be too honest about the facts if it may turn out costlier than estimated.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #813
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I'd be interested in how much cost is really saved using this technique.

I'm not sure the Chinese will be too honest about the facts if it may turn out costlier than estimated.
doesn't matter, it will still be far more efficient than regular construction if it works. and the time saved will be so immense that it will be a huge step in development even if the erecting cost would be nearly the same as the standard method
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Old October 25th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #814
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I think it'll still play an important part in bringing the most minimum standards of living up to date for the poor or less well-off. It could also revolutionize the industry, though, I'm sure 99% of forumers here would rather have beautiful (aesthetical) buildings instead.

But this kind of building in parts of the world that as was said, would otherwise have slums would be a Godsend for people living there.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 03:51 AM   #815
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it kind of reminds me of the sears tower in chicago.
Me too.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 04:10 AM   #816
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That last point about architecture begs a question. Do we really want standardised pre-fabricated buildings? They may be efficient, but are they desirable?
For professional architects to live in? Probably not. But for normal people, yes.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 08:53 AM   #817
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For professional architects to live in? Probably not. But for normal people, yes.
You'll be surprised where "architects" work in.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 06:55 AM   #818
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You'll be surprised where "architects" work in.
Down here at Northeastern we get to work underneath a train station... in one of the most poorly designed spaces on campus.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 09:42 AM   #819
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No surprise modern architects are only producing depressing boxes with exposed concrete facades.


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Old November 1st, 2012, 08:23 PM   #820
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It's finally November! Let the foundations start for this tower, so excited.
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