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Old November 24th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #961
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I can't believe this, till it will happen...
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Old November 24th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #962
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They should start preping this by now.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #963
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Me being a teenager wanting to become an architect of the world's tallest building, I find this is just cheating and a mad concept of speed, which is the flaw of this building.
Boxy, Empire State, if I were to design this it would be more exciting than the current design and more like Burj Khalifa-but despite this I like it.
Can I make a progress diagram for this project? (See my flickr).
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Old November 24th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #964
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Me being a teenager wanting to become an architect of the world's tallest building, I find this is just cheating and a mad concept of speed, which is the flaw of this building.
Boxy, Empire State, if I were to design this it would be more exciting than the current design and more like Burj Khalifa-but despite this I like it.
Can I make a progress diagram for this project? (See my flickr).
I hope to be a Architect one day too. This tower is designed because people are moving into China's cities at a huge rate and they need somewhere to live in a limited space so in this way prefab supertall buildings could be a cheap solution.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #965
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Me being a teenager wanting to become an architect of the world's tallest building, I find this is just cheating and a mad concept of speed, which is the flaw of this building.
Boxy, Empire State, if I were to design this it would be more exciting than the current design and more like Burj Khalifa-but despite this I like it.
Can I make a progress diagram for this project? (See my flickr).
I agree this tower is just to boxy
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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:42 AM   #966
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How is this tower boxy? It's like saying empire state building is boxy.
This building is ugly because it's a disproportional mess, not because of boxiness.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:51 AM   #967
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The strength to weight ratio of this building is many times better than a typical 'supertall'.

Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper and http://www.allaboutskyscrapers.com/skyscraper_design .

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The massive cores are not only for resisting the weight. Resisting only weight is really easy for a materials like steel or concrete. The main work of the main core is to resist lateral efforts as wind and prevent deformations or torsion in the whole structure that could collapse it. It is made to rigidize the structure.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:38 AM   #968
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That diagram is for steel structures, and we saw how ''tough'' Type 4 was on impact.
Touche . Had forgotten to notice that even though I've seem diagrams like that before. Haven't usually come across any variation with primarily concrete though.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:59 AM   #969
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How is this tower boxy? It's like saying empire state building is boxy.
This building is ugly because it's a disproportional mess, not because of boxiness.
Completely agree with you, rainbow dash.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 02:03 AM   #970
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Wow this is going to be so awesome... Up yours, Dubai!
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Old November 25th, 2012, 02:25 AM   #971
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I still can't believe this is not a PR/advertising stunt. It just can't be real.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:13 AM   #972
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If this building does have a concrete core, how could they possibly finish it in 90 days? Don't you have to wait for concrete to set before moving ahead?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #973
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If this building does have a concrete core, how could they possibly finish it in 90 days? Don't you have to wait for concrete to set before moving ahead?
Core could be constructed using an advanced slip form technique. However, basing off expected slip form speeds this tower would still need around 150 days for core construction.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #974
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if they built a 30 storey hotel in 15 days, they can definetly build a 60 storey building in a month.
if they can build for 3 months, they can build ~180 storeys (60x3).

And if they build for 4 months, they should achieve 240 storeys (60x4).
Even if they their blueprints read 240 storeys that would only be 25% faster working speed than the hotel.

So if anything, even if they build as fast as the hotel, they can still build it in less than 4 full months. (3 months and 2 weeks, maybe).

So I think its actually pretty plausible.

What sets so many people into skeptisism, is that this idea and tech is new and unexplored. The idea to build they worlds largest out of a fairly new building strategy is radical to many. And I dont see why it's not.

I think they'll do it in less than 4 months, and opening will be in less than 6. (imo)

We might be entering a whole new era of architecture.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 05:53 AM   #975
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I agree this tower is just to boxy
I think they will start simply to prove the concept, and then move to more complex designs.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 09:24 AM   #976
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I think they will start simply to prove the concept, and then move to more complex designs.
Have a look at the link's videos and you will be surprised how beautiful the immense rooftop gardens look.

http://inequalityreduced.blogspot.co...-realised.html

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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #977
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if they built a 30 storey hotel in 15 days, they can definetly build a 60 storey building in a month.
if they can build for 3 months, they can build ~180 storeys (60x3).

And if they build for 4 months, they should achieve 240 storeys (60x4).
Even if they their blueprints read 240 storeys that would only be 25% faster working speed than the hotel.

So if anything, even if they build as fast as the hotel, they can still build it in less than 4 full months. (3 months and 2 weeks, maybe).

So I think its actually pretty plausible.

What sets so many people into skeptisism, is that this idea and tech is new and unexplored. The idea to build they worlds largest out of a fairly new building strategy is radical to many. And I dont see why it's not.

I think they'll do it in less than 4 months, and opening will be in less than 6. (imo)

We might be entering a whole new era of architecture.
it takes more time to lift things 500m than to only lift it 100m. the higher up you go the slower the construction will go.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #978
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it takes more time to lift things 500m than to only lift it 100m. the higher up you go the slower the construction will go.
:o True!!

Keep disproving me guys, thats how I learn.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 08:08 PM   #979
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it takes more time to lift things 500m than to only lift it 100m. the higher up you go the slower the construction will go.
But the tower also tapers toward the top, so there are much less supplies to be lifted.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #980
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But the tower also tapers toward the top, so there are much less supplies to be lifted.
Double :o !

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