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Old July 24th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #1681
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If built according to the plan then it's going to be a huge building in terms of floor space.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #1682
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So will there be a concrete core like any other skyscraper in this building? Or will it be just steel frame only? Usually in skyscrapers core rises faster than floors.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #1683
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It's funny, there are so many amazing towers going up in all the other Chinese cities, and then we're going to get the world's tallest eyesore in the middle of a farm. Who designed this, a 5 year old? As a fan of skyscrapers, cities, urban density... I couldn't find this more offensive. Yuck.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #1684
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It's funny, there are so many amazing towers going up in all the other Chinese cities, and then we're going to get the world's tallest eyesore in the middle of a farm. Who designed this, a 5 year old? As a fan of skyscrapers, cities, urban density... I couldn't find this more offensive. Yuck.
Somebody who understands the constrains of building with only prefab elements. At the moment there aren't many options design wise with this new building technique.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #1685
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This tower is literally being built in someones back yard. I wonder if those people in the background of the photo's have any idea what is about to happen. After the 10th floor, it's going to be the tallest structure in that area. Skyline what??? Pretty crazy when you think about it. We are going to need DAILY updates to follow this one if it goes as fast as planned
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Old July 24th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #1686
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same country where a village built a skyscraper
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...kyscraper.html
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Old July 24th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #1687
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Don't know if this is bad news:
Source: Xinhua News Agency (authoritative voice of China), July 24, 2013
With in-depth investigation, Xinhua correspondants found there had been NO application for construction of this huge project. How could it be started without application? What about planning, environmental and risk evaluations of it? These questions are yet to be answered...

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Old July 24th, 2013, 10:10 PM   #1688
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How could it be started without application? What about planning, environmental and risk evaluations of it? These questions are yet to be answered...
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #1689
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Somebody who understands the constrains of building with only prefab elements. At the moment there aren't many options design wise with this new building technique.
You can make prefab elements in such way, that it still looks much better than current design.

However I expressed my doubts before and I still think that this tower won't be built in proposed manner. There are no information about planned construction basics, such as core construction, foundations, elevators, purpose of the building etc, more or less nothing - just a rendered video and non-translated Powerpoint slides.

To experienced engineers an 800+ m tall prefabricated building project is more like children fantasy.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #1690
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Don't know if this is bad news:
Source: Xinhua News Agency (authoritative voice of China), July 24, 2013
With in-depth investigation, Xinhua correspondants found there had been NO application for construction of this huge project. How could it be started without application? What about planning, environmental and risk evaluations of it? These questions are yet to be answered...
No one is talking. The 'investigator' likely does not have a story .
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:33 PM   #1691
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The views from the tower and the observation floor will be impressing. The view will be a farm
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:36 PM   #1692
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You can make prefab elements in such way, that it still looks much better than current design.

However I expressed my doubts before and I still think that this tower won't be built in proposed manner. There are no information about planned construction basics, such as core construction, foundations, elevators, purpose of the building etc, more or less nothing - just a rendered video and non-translated Powerpoint slides.

To experienced engineers an 800+ m tall prefabricated building project is more like children fantasy.
It's just a 'prefab' Willis Tower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #1693
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But much, much bigger
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #1694
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I find willis tower more beautiful
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #1695
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Anyone understand chines? http://v.ifeng.com/vblog/news/201307...e51a510c.shtml
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:49 PM   #1696
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13 million square feet! Judas Priest, that's nearly as much as the one in Mecca and it is only one giant tower not a whole complex!
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #1697
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It's just a 'prefab' Willis Tower.
Meaning of the word "just" should not be taken so lightly.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #1698
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Meaning of the word "just" should not be taken so lightly.
It's definitely more than "just" a taller version of Sears Tower
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #1699
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I find willis tower more beautiful
Me too, however I'd like to note that in my opinion the Willis Tower is the only building on this planet that looks better than the Skycity
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:13 AM   #1700
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You can make prefab elements in such way, that it still looks much better than current design.

However I expressed my doubts before and I still think that this tower won't be built in proposed manner. There are no information about planned construction basics, such as core construction, foundations, elevators, purpose of the building etc, more or less nothing - just a rendered video and non-translated Powerpoint slides.

To experienced engineers an 800+ m tall prefabricated building project is more like children fantasy.
Well... thats all relative really. Once its together, there isnt that much of a difference if the beams are welded in place, or welded in a factory and then welded in as a chunk. If anything the prefab would have the obvious advantages of superior factory quality control and minimal exposure to the elements.

Not to mention the cost savings could be translated into a higher materials budget.

Edit: there really isnt even any need for a prefab structure to use identical pieces in the way that they are. Modern manufacturing is entirely capable of being fed variable designs to be robotically made. An automated plasma cutter doesnt really care if its making 1000 of the same thing, or 1000 slightly different variants. Its just a matter of loading a different file.
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