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Old July 25th, 2013, 05:40 PM   #1721
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Old July 25th, 2013, 07:55 PM   #1722
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Let's not freaking out yet, stand back and wait it out, SWFC was a hole in the ground for a while, and Ping'An was on hold due to the concrete issues, we have more important things in our lives to worry about.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #1723
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Old July 25th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #1724
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I don't know if this is correct, but apparently it has been halted according to Springer:

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...ochhauses.html

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China stops building the world record high-rise building

In just ten months, a 838-meter skyscraper should be raised in China. However, the authorities stop the spectacular world record construction. Was this just a megalomaniac advertising farce of the builders?

Chinese authorities have described the construction of the planned with 838 meters highest skyscraper in the world five days after its foundation stone was laid in the central Chinese city of Changsha as illegal and can stop.

Called for the spectacular "City in the Sky" (Tian Kong Chengshi) building had been requested or granted permits neither the relevant building authorities in Hunan Province nor the provincial capital of Changsha. The reporters were told the official news agency Xinhua and the local "Shaoxiang morning newspaper." She was also the first reported about the groundbreaking ceremony.

Although the owner, China's national construction company Broad Sustainable Building (BSB), is a private enterprise and the level estimated at around 1.1 billion euro cost construction should be financed privately, each building must be approved not only bauamtlich, but should in the case of a high-rise building also not without feasibility, safety and environmental assessments and consultation and objection period will begin.
Thus, the gigantic new building should look
Photo: AFP Thus the gigantic new building should look
This is supposed to be the largest freestanding building in the world: The Chinese New Century Global Centre in Chengdu.
Record construction
This temple of consumption is the biggest house in the world

None of this had been done, or even sought. Neither the client nor the construction company involved number 5 commented on Chinese reporter inquiries.

Ten months for 838-meter skyscraper

Zhang Yue, founder and CEO of BSB group had boasted at the groundbreaking ceremony last weekend to try to not only build a building higher than the ten meters to 828 meters high Burj Khalifa in Dubai. He would also just ten months will be necessary for it to pull up the pyramid steel construction in a special design and make ready.

His construction company would use to 90 percent of prefabricated building parts. The new skyscraper city next to schools, hotels, swimming pool, shopping centers, helicopter landing sites and eco-agricultural plantations should also result 4450 apartments. Blogger on the internet suggested that the criticized as a megalomaniac project should be nothing more than self-promotion for the construction company, especially as the builder also flew by helicopter to the groundbreaking ceremony.

Others scoffed at the silence of the authorities that responded only to questions of journalists. The Tower of Babel could also be called the Tower of Changsha. Image The commercial project that made headlines all over China and abroad, also do not fit into the political landscape. The new leadership in Beijing had just banned all party and government authorities, provincial and municipal governments strictly to make official build prestige and Protzbauten for yourself in the next five years.

According to Chinese construction statistics are now ten of the 20 tallest buildings in the world are in China. Four more Superstructures 2014 would be completed or under construction, including the 632-meter Shanghai Tower in Pudong, the even higher Wuhan office tower at 660 meters and a planned Pingan financial center in Shenzhen.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 11:49 PM   #1725
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http://www.scmp.com/news/china/artic...lding-changsha

According to this source, the claims that the construction was halted were based on a false report by Xinhua news agency.

Broad group claims:
"We have obtained all necessary government approval as the project progressed from one stage to another. Everything we do is legal and approved by the government," Zhu said, adding that the company expected the state news agency to "correct its mistake".

"We have not received any notification or hint by the government that the project has been or would be suspended," Zhu said. "Everything is going on as planned. This is a very large and serious project. We couldn't have proceeded so far without approval and backing from the city and provincial authorities."
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Old July 26th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #1726
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I hope so much it was just a false alert!
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Old July 26th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #1727
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Oh no..... I saw this on the news. It's been delayed.

How on earth has it not got the right permits? I thought it did! If this was a Chinese Government backed Company (which I believe it is...) I would have thought the government would love the idea of the tallest building in the world being in China.

I think there is a lot more politics behind this project than people think. I believe that because this is such a revolutionary idea - they know that if this projects succeeds that it will effectively make many constuction projects go broke over night - not all but A LOT. And at the moment China cannot afford that... China is building at a stupidly quick rate skyscrapers/towers/apartments/houses that are in some cases empty just to boost GDP. A tower like Sky City that can wipe out so many companies is technically a threat to China's GDP.

I may be a little un-realistic thiking this but to me it's quite logical and its a known fact that China is building to increase GDP.

If my theory is correct, the Chinese will not allow SkyCity to be built and will throw all kinds of obstacles in the way.
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I think you may be right. Think about all those megatalls rising right now in china. Who would like to wait for more expensive space in say wuhan greenland tower if you can have three times the space at lower price several years earlier. Of course broad towers don't rival with all of the real estate business. I think luxury residential projects in usa and europe are safe, but it sure is game changer in china and many powerful chinese developers are against it. I only hope Zhang Yue have balls too and is powerful enough to get this project through but it maybe more to it than just engineering challenges.
Too many people's lives are disproportionately impacted by the real estate industries (especially in China). Much of the real estate industies are naturally 'parasitic'. Can China afford to continue speculative incentives (to get 'rich') to create 'better' living spaces ?
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Old July 26th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #1728
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I hope so much it was just a false alert!
Me too. This project is way tooo important for the entire world to just vanish at the hands of politicians
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Old July 26th, 2013, 12:54 AM   #1729
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sounds like false news to me but we will see ~
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Old July 26th, 2013, 01:11 AM   #1730
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I think BSB will make this building, but we may be waiting a long time for this one as its such an ambitious project. Once this tower has been completed though, expect other towers to start popping up all over China and the rest of the world very quickly. I think if BSB is trying to pull a publicity stunt and not actually make the building, they are going the wrong way about it and may turn off people's and investors interest from the company.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 01:32 AM   #1731
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i think the building will be built but not as fast as they promise. yet it still improves speed, costs and other things, so it still will be a success in all views
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Old July 26th, 2013, 02:22 AM   #1732
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This will be a amazing skyscraper in the city, and a good project to think about the impact of man on nature
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:20 AM   #1733
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Oh no..... I saw this on the news. It's been delayed.

How on earth has it not got the right permits? I thought it did! If this was a Chinese Government backed Company (which I believe it is...) I would have thought the government would love the idea of the tallest building in the world being in China.

I think there is a lot more politics behind this project than people think. I believe that because this is such a revolutionary idea - they know that if this projects succeeds that it will effectively make many constuction projects go broke over night - not all but A LOT. And at the moment China cannot afford that... China is building at a stupidly quick rate skyscrapers/towers/apartments/houses that are in some cases empty just to boost GDP. A tower like Sky City that can wipe out so many companies is technically a threat to China's GDP.

I may be a little un-realistic thiking this but to me it's quite logical and its a known fact that China is building to increase GDP.

If my theory is correct, the Chinese will not allow SkyCity to be built and will throw all kinds of obstacles in the way.
Not true. Developers and construction companies would absolutely love to have a faster method of construction. Time = money the quicker they finish and can turn a profit or move on to the next project.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 07:16 AM   #1734
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sounds like false news to me but we will see ~
I think (hope) broad will get this project finished, but a news about the construction being illegal and putted on hold is not a simple typo you make when you write an article. I think something bad is happening behind the curtain and we can only hope Broad have enough power to push it forward.

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Not true. Developers and construction companies would absolutely love to have a faster method of construction. Time = money the quicker they finish and can turn a profit or move on to the next project.
I think it's not that simple. What about those tens of towers which already started or are about to start construction with classic construction techniques? Each of them will take at least several years to build and when they are ready who they are going to sell if much cheaper space is already available in broad towers? This new construction technique definitely brings chaos the the real estate business, and I really wouldn't be surprised if the powerful entities would do everything to stop its development. It's like an electric car for the automotive industry really
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Old July 26th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #1735
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Actually today I saw on Liaoning TV Station said that "Yes the building did not receive construction permits but the construction is not stopping. It is still going!
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Old July 26th, 2013, 09:57 AM   #1736
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Old July 26th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #1737
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Actually today I saw on Liaoning TV Station said that "Yes the building did not receive construction permits but the construction is not stopping. It is still going!
Really? Why do they care about what's going on in Changsha?

Actually, is there a permit that is applicable to this building ?
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"Yes the building did not receive construction permits but the construction is not stopping. It is still going!"
It smells something very fishy here.
No details about construction technique either, some "miracle" prefab thing which "will revolutionize skyscraper construction" etc.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I'm almost certain that this tower won't be T/O anytime soon, if ever.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 10:37 AM   #1739
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That's all very confusing at the moment
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Old July 26th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #1740
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I think, building upward is illegal at the moment but preparing the land is OK.
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