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Old November 5th, 2010, 07:24 AM   #21
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How awful. Almost as bad as the Russians.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 08:31 AM   #22
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I didn't know that some Russia heritage had been demolished.

In Canada there was also demolitions?
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Old November 5th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #23
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I quote myself so last pics come to last page

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in Av de Mayo:



the one in the corner:



the one under the planes nose:



two:





the three have been demolished:



two ugly "modernisations"





the 2 on the left:



fire + demolition:



there are lots more of Av. de Mayo...

one corner in Callao



Hotel particulier where King of Spain stayed when in BA:



This is also in Callao, you must put atention cause the pic is too small. see behind the two big buildings lots and lots of 3 o 4 stories hotels particuliers. it was 1,5km like that, side by side petits hotels and hotels particulier; most french style some italian ALL DEMOLISHED from the 60s till today:



another corner in Corrientes



all the buildings right side of the "greek" one:





some "hotels patirculiers" demolished:





all ornaments and sculptures dissapeared:



in Florida Street (almost all Florida Street was demolished)



the small one:



all but the big one (the French style one at the end of the street was a private residence, then the the bombed Israeli Embassy in Arroyo-Alvear, see the second pic):













In Avenida Alvear:







Everything demolished but the last on the right





All of them but the one in the middle and the one with white umbrellas



All of them demolished, those where houses, not appartments:



All of them demolished but the big one:



7 palaces demolished on Avenida Alvear, one next to the other:





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former president's residence:



this was tipical BA in Argentina's Belle Epoque, almost everything has been/is been demolished:




some pics from SCC, others from Machado and Perlin
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Old November 5th, 2010, 06:26 PM   #24
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I didn't know that some Russia heritage had been demolished.

In Canada there was also demolitions?
Yes. In Canada we destroy everything old and build ugly shopping malls and suburbs. At least BA has lots of historic architecture still intact. Cities like Toronto and any city in the prairies is filled with brutalist abominations and hideous suburbs that aren't planned correctly. Old Toronto was very beautiful, and had a lot of historic architecture, but now it's all glass and commie blocks.

Only Quebec seems to be interested in preserving its heritage.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 12:09 AM   #25
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Yes, unfortunately when a heritage building is demolished is very difficult to re-up it again, because today very few architects are engaged in such work, which carry considerable time and effort, for this reason, we must protect all the architectural heritage that still exists in our cities, a city without history is a city without an identity and culture.

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Old November 13th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #26
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What a shame.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 07:47 PM   #27
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a city without history is a city without an identity and culture.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 04:48 AM   #28
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I think the situation can only be compared with NY in the 30s.
Exactly! I believe NY has demolished probably twice as much as Buenos Aires. With every boom came a wave of massive demolitions. First in the 30's and then in the 60's and very recently in the last decade (2000-2008). This city has demolished entire neighborhoods and yet we still have tons of our historic architecture left. It's sad really because New York probably had more architectural gems than paris or london.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 07:13 AM   #29
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Exactly! I believe NY has demolished probably twice as much as Buenos Aires. With every boom came a wave of massive demolitions. First in the 30's and then in the 60's and very recently in the last decade (2000-2008). This city has demolished entire neighborhoods and yet we still have tons of our historic architecture left. It's sad really because New York probably had more architectural gems than paris or london.
Whats been in NY's favour though is that the city has been massively rich thoughout that time, even with the great depression you saw alot of grand building in the 30's that was arguebley superior to what it replaced.

BA's on the other hand had a period as one of the richest cities in the world in the late 19th/early 20th century then declined massively, theres not been the money around to build quality since then.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 09:49 AM   #30
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That is true. I'd take the ESB over the old Waldorf Astoria any day(as beautiful as it was). Does Buenos Aires not have something similar to a Landmark Preservation Commission? It sucks to see such beautiful architecture thrown out in favor of complete pos. Here we have entire districts, besides buildings, that are protected from modifications/ the wrecking ball. Sure, the LPC doesn't save every building (e.g Drake hotel, for which they're often criticized) but they still manage to protect thousands of buildings across the 5 boroughs.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 04:05 AM   #31
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It was really beautiful back then. But I guess smaller 2-5 storey buildings are just not as profitable as bigger modern ones, so they got demolished and replaced.



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Buenos Aires was one of the 4 bigger cities in the world in the early XX century with Paris, London and New York.
Just to correct this. Buenos Aires had ~1,1 mio in 1910



1910

London 7.100.000
New York 4.766.883
Paris 4.400.000
Chicago 2.185.283
Vienna 2.083.630
Berlin 2.071.257
St. Petersburg 1.962.000
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:27 AM   #32
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Very sad to see they put so many generic buildings in place of those older structures.

In Hong Kong it's 10 times worse. There are hardly any older buildings left. The problem I feel arises from the fact that these cities are very young and have no old city center and old architecture. Young cities always reinvent themselves.
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Old January 24th, 2011, 04:38 PM   #33
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This is sad. But not much different from what happened in almost all american cities (and sometimes keeps on happening).

Even old Europe has been brutalized almost with the same harshness, as if the war didn't wipe out enough... see Brussels.
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Old February 2nd, 2011, 01:08 PM   #34
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I visited Buenos Aires and I was delighted by the amazing XIXth and early XXth century architecture, reminding me Paris or Madrid! But I didn't know so glorious buildings and streets was entierly demolished, even if it's not surprising given that the countless years of dictatorship the Argentina knew and still knows....

Fortunately this city - for me - keeps the top rank of the most beautiful city in the Latinamerican world!
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:22 PM   #35
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It was really beautiful back then. But I guess smaller 2-5 storey buildings are just not as profitable as bigger modern ones, so they got demolished and replaced.

Just to correct this. Buenos Aires had ~1,1 mio in 1910

1910

London 7.100.000
New York 4.766.883
Paris 4.400.000
Chicago 2.185.283
Vienna 2.083.630
Berlin 2.071.257
St. Petersburg 1.962.000
good quality buildings construction in BA lasted till 1945.
at that time BA was much bigger than 1.1 million and much more important: it was rich and with very qualified italian artisans and french, german and italian architects.

BA has the same population since 1945



Great BA growth was huge at that time but it already existed in 1920 cause as well as Great London, Great BA is formed by preexistent neighbouring towns and cities, some of them where quite big already.

I can't estimate how big was it population, but if you travel around the suburbs is easy to see that most of them were built before 1945 with lots of heritage still remaining.

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Old February 8th, 2011, 11:30 PM   #36
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Some demolished buildings designed by marvelous architect A. Christophersen in BA.

Pics from genial blog http://arquitecto-christophersen.blogspot.com/ by Fabio Perlin (where you can see some other buildings that hadn't been demolished)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Christophersen






































there are no pics of these hotels particuliers and petits hotels also designed by him and demolished in BA:

1 Viamonte 726.Casa de renta.Flia.Mayol (1895)
2 Av.Callao1332.Vivienda particular.Vicente Peralta Ramos(1896)
3 Av.Santa Fe 1026.Viv.Hortensio Mendez (1898)(trazado Av.9 de Julio)
4 Av.Callao 1218.Petit Hotel Samuel Rossetti (1898)
5 Marcelo T.de Alvear 682.Hotel Tornquist (1899)
6 Av.Santa Fe 950.Hotel Santamarina
7 Esmeralda 1279.Vivienda particular para Carlos Madero
8 Juncal 1044.Hotel para Alejandro Shaw (1901) (trazado Av.9 de Julio)
9 Tucuman 450.Hotel Baròn A.De Marchi (1903)
10 Rodriguez Peña 1644.Hotel Christophersen (1903)
11 Viamonte 1405. Hotel Antonio Dellepiane (1905)
12 Av.Alvear 126. Hotel Alfredo Fernandez (1905)
13 Av.Quintana 71.Hotel Flia.Gomez (1906)
14 Arenales 115. Viv.Domingo Acuña
15 Av.Cordoba 624.Petit Hotel para Alberto Leloir
16 Suipacha 1258.Petit Hotel para Hector Cobo (1909)
17 Av.Corrientes 783.Casa de renta Soto y Calvo (1910)
18 11 de Septiembre y Virrey Loreto.Casa Alberto Williams
19 Suipacha y Juncal. Casa Unzuè de Cobo
20 Balcarce 548.Deposito Carlos Dupont (1930)
21 Gral.Peròn 842/56.Laboratorio y oficinas C. Dupont
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Not demolished, but slightly changed.Buenos Aires in the November 1939 issue of National Geographic:










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Old March 13th, 2011, 07:56 AM   #39
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This is so sad!
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Old March 13th, 2011, 08:02 AM   #40
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This is very sad, but I still thought BA was beautiful last time I was there. This historic architecture is very expensive to maintain and many developers look for excuses to demolish these masterpieces and replace them with bland modern structures.
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