Westfield Sydney - Australia's best shopping experience

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Originally Posted by JVogt

I was in there today. They've designed the place in such a way that there are no clear lines anywhere. When you couple that with poor lighting, it gets very difficult to navigate that place (ie, use the map in the directory to find a shop). It just seems chaotic to me. And those damn lights on the walls around the central escalators! You can't see anything on any of the (comparatively very poorly-lit) levels while on those escalators. I'm certainly not impressed, so far.

It was a very difficult site to work with considering it is in the middle of the CBD and is beneath Sydney Tower. They couldn't alter the height of the ceilings because it could have put the stability of Sydney Tower at risk. Perhaps it seems so chaotic because it is the week before Christmas!!

[Ipggi]

Originally Posted by Inconfidente

I mean, London's Westfield is huge. Yeap, I know that Sydney is not so big as London but I would expect a larger mall.

Westfield London is more like a very posh (inner) suburban Westfield but it is still only 149000 sqm. Bondi Junction Sydney's posh inner suburban Westfield is only 22,000 sqm smaller than London's.

Westfield London is still a good 6km from the heart of London's commercial retail centre of lets say Oxford/Regent Streets. It is not like there is a multi-level, 150k sqm Westfield on the corner of Oxford Circus, Westminster.

[bwistle]

Originally Posted by nameless dude

I don't think the actual name Westfield's that bad. I think we associate the name Westfield with the suburbs because for too long that's where Westfield originated from. But now they're moving upmarket, expanding overseas and creating landmark centres there like Westfield Century city or Westfield London as well as in our own cities so it might only be a matter of time before that subarban 'Westfield' gets wiped out of minds and the name 'reinvents' itself. At least they got rid of "Shoppingtown", that was Lol

I still think they should name the more luxury inner city centre different names. As long as they are still doing suburban malls they will still carry the image IMO.

[ZMO211]

Anyone know whats included in stage 2? besides the extra 140 stores and I think Westfield Parramatta is due for another upgrade :/

[Fabian]

A D/A was lodged recently with Planning NSW for another level of retail plus a new office tower.

[ZMO211]

Originally Posted by Fabian

A D/A was lodged recently with Planning NSW for another level of retail plus a new office tower.

Yeh thx just saw that on the parra thread

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Originally Posted by ZMO211

Anyone know whats included in stage 2? besides the extra 140 stores and I think Westfield Parramatta is due for another upgrade :/

Stage 2 will see the opening of Zara along with plenty more high end stores like Escada, Bottega Veneta, Versace, Ermenegildo Zegna, a bigger permanent Gucci, Prada and Miu Miu as well as Australian brands such as Ginger & Smart and Kirrily Johnston. Borders and JB Hi Fi are opening new stores as well.

There will be plenty of new restaurants opening on the upper 3 levels including Sassy's Red and Chat Thai. A Becasse Bakery is also opening.

There are plenty of other stores and restaurants that are not yet confirmed for stage 2, this is just about all that I know at the moment

[Solopop]

^

It's just another shopping centre, exactly like Chadstone but with a lil' bit of style. Get over it.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Oops Solopop your bitterness is leaking out again!

The man asked a question and I answered it...

[Solopop]

It's still a shopping centre, you like orgasm every time you see a pic.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Oh no there's that bitter bile again, you'd better see someone about it

[Inconfidente]

Originally Posted by Ipggi

Westfield London is more like a very posh (inner) suburban Westfield but it is still only 149000 sqm. Bondi Junction Sydney's posh inner suburban Westfield is only 22,000 sqm smaller than London's.

Westfield London is still a good 6km from the heart of London's commercial retail centre of lets say Oxford/Regent Streets. It is not like there is a multi-level, 150k sqm Westfield on the corner of Oxford Circus, Westminster.

It says on wiki that Westfiled Bondi Junction has 104,000m² of retail floor area while Westfield London has 150,000m² of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Bondi_Junction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_London

The largest Westfield of Australia seems to be Westfield Doncaster with 110,000m² of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Bondi_Junction

And this one (Westfield Sydney) has 93 000 sq m of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Centrepoint

It seems small but it's pretty much big.

Originally Posted by hornetfig

It's in the middle of the city.

But basement parking to roof-top parking there are plenty of shopping malls in Australia, particularly in Sydney, which exceed four levels. Land and decent land transport is scarce, which makes suitable sites scarce.

Westfield Sydney has no parking however.

And that map is of one floor (out of two) of Chadstone - a giant ugly sprawling morass in the south-eastern suburbs of Melbourne that is more like what you would associate with a shopping mall.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit

Westfield Sydney is approximately 93 000 sq m (when combined with the former Sydney Central Plaza and Myer department store that have been amalgamated into the site). Without SCP and Myer, the new component is about 40 000 sq m. At present there are around 240 stores. Upon full completion there will be circa 330. 250 of those will be in the new component.

The centre is located right in the middle of Sydney, on both sides of the Pitt Street Mall.

I can't speak for many cities, but Kuala Lumpur has several downtown malls that also exceed 4 floors. Check out Pavilion KL and Suria KLCC, they are two big and impressive malls at least 6 floors each

This type is not common around here. I've been in one mall like this once but it was for lower classes. Thanks for the info!

[Solopop]

Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit

Oh no there's that bitter bile again, you'd better see someone about it

You think that's a problem? Hardly, considering you orgasm everytime you see a building...

[Cariad]

^ drop it guys

[nameless dude]

Langham Place shopping centre in Hong Kong is 15 levels. Crazy.

[Ipggi]

Originally Posted by Inconfidente

It says on wiki that Westfiled Bondi Junction has 104,000m² of retail floor area while Westfield London has 150,000m² of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Bondi_Junction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_London

The largest Westfield of Australia seems to be Westfield Doncaster with 110,000m² of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Bondi_Junction

And this one (Westfield Sydney) has 93 000 sq m of retail floor area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Centrepoint

It seems small but it's pretty much big.




Thanks!



This type is not common around here. I've been in one mall like this once but it was for lower classes. Thanks for the info!

I'd suggest not using Wikipedia for raw statistics without checking their references first. Anyway these are from the Westfield Corporate site.



London http://westfield.com/corporate/prope...om/london.html

Total retail space 150,000m2 or 1,614,600ft2 (approx)
Number of Retailers 345

Bondi Junction http://westfield.com/corporate/prope...ijunction.html

Total retail space 127,488m2 or 1,372,280ft2 (approx)
Number of Retailers 508

Parramatta http://westfield.com/corporate/prope...arramatta.html

Total retail space 137,461m2 or 1,479,630ft2 (approx)
Number of Retailers 492

Fountain Gate http://westfield.com/corporate/prope...ntaingate.html

Total retail space 137,353m2 or 1,478,467ft2 (approx)
Number of Retailers 326

[AUboy]

Westfield Sydney Retail
Redeveloped retail area 40,000m2
Retailers Approximately 250

[deranged]

Westfield Chermside (suburban Brisbane) is the largest Westfield in Australia - 144,363 sqm / 406 stores
Chadstone (suburban Melbourne) is the largest shopping centre in Australia - 186,500 sqm / 515 stores

[hornetfig]

Originally Posted by Ipggi

Bondi Junction http://westfield.com/corporate/prope...ijunction.html

There's some confusion/dispute as to whether that figure includes the two 20 floor office towers atop that centre.

[deranged]

^ There's something wrong with the numbers for Bondi Junction. The centre website only lists 374 stores but the corporate website lists 508.