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Old March 11th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #81
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Thanks for the good news! OK, so the Gautrain was not formally part of the World Cup bid, but you must admit that it would have looked silly if it had been readied three months after the big event. I can understand, though, why some people in SA have had some socially-based objections to the project: 100 Rand for a ticket from the Airport to Sandton? That would be pretty stiff even in the richest countries of the world, and it must be unattainable for many poor people in Gauteng.

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The China comparism is just downright unfair,a few nations can hold a candle to its capital and manpower.
I agree that China is a special case. One might throw back at the French that the Chinese are about to complete a highspeed network, in less than five years, which is longer and faster than what the French have managed since 1982.

That said, there's also a "regional" aspect to this: South Korea does not have a command economy and they too complete infrastructure projects with the speed of summer lightning. In their case it's not just about holding a candle to the manpower. The rumour has it that the Director General in charge of building the highway from Seoul to Pusan (a former army general...) slept in his office for almost two years in order not to let the project out of sight.
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Thanks for the good news! OK, so the Gautrain was not formally part of the World Cup bid, but you must admit that it would have looked silly if it had been readied three months after the big event. I can understand, though, why some people in SA have had some socially-based objections to the project: 100 Rand for a ticket from the Airport to Sandton? That would be pretty stiff even in the richest countries of the world, and it must be unattainable for many poor people in Gauteng.



I agree that China is a special case. One might throw back at the French that the Chinese are about to complete a highspeed network, in less than five years, which is longer and faster than what the French have managed since 1982.

That said, there's also a "regional" aspect to this: South Korea does not have a command economy and they too complete infrastructure projects with the speed of summer lightning. In their case it's not just about holding a candle to the manpower. The rumour has it that the Director General in charge of building the highway from Seoul to Pusan (a former army general...) slept in his office for almost two years in order not to let the project out of sight.
Really? +-$15?
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Really? +-$15?
Well, in Europe we have two schools: in some places (e.g. Istanbul, Zurich...) airports are connected to the centre of town via a prolongation of ordinary metro or commuter lines. There, it costs but a couple of dollars to get to or from the airport. In other places (e.g. Oslo, Stockholm...) they have invested in dedicated highspeed track, which will take you from/to the airport at speeds exceeding 200 km/h. There you pay through the nose. (More than 30 US dollars in the case of Stockholm.)
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Then you could say the Gautrain subscribes to the latter school of thought.I know it doesn't come close to being high speed but that's how it is being sold here in SA : a much faster alternative.Also recall that the Gautrain is geared towards the LSM 7 plus segment so parting with R100 is not the end of the world.Your "not attainable for the province's poor" point is kinda baseless considering that air travel (let alone high speed rail) is inaccessible to the poor.And just for argument's sake,isn't the Heathrow Express similarly priced?
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Yes, the Heathrow Express (some express!) is one of out of two European "bastard approaches" where a railway company milks a monopoly for whatever it's worth. The other one is the railway link between Charles de Gaulle Airport and central Paris. The latter involved only prolonging an existing RER line (suburban rail) 6 km across open field to the airport. Most trains are not direct, so one has to spend an agonising 40-45 minutes to get downtown. For this "luxury" the French railways demand 8.5 Euros.

That's monopoly for you! But, as I said, in most European capitals using this kind of railway link costs you only chickenfeed. - Admittedly in Zurich the price (if you don't have the half-price rail abonnement that every Swiss citizen buys yearly) is 25 Sfr, but this is a country where the average monthly household income is 6,700 US dollars.
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A) SOUTHERN SECTION
1. Underground section

All tunnel excavation – a total length of approximately 15.5 kilometers from Park Station to Marlboro Portal – was completed in September 2009. Civil works, tracklaying and associated electrical & mechanical railway infrastructure works within the tunnels between Marlboro Portal and Sandton Station are complete.
Whilst diesel-powered construction trains have been operating within this section of tunnel for some time, a noteworthy milestone achieved during the month was the energization of the lines to Sandton on 26 February 2010. Since then, the Gautrain Electrostar trains have been test running between ORTIA and Sandton on a regular basis.
Within the remaining tunnel section to Park Station, civil works, including final lining, invert slabs, cable duct installation and walkways, together with the installation of mechanical and electrical equipment, are ongoing. Tracklaying from Sandton Station towards the south will commence shortly.
The underground works also include the construction of seven emergency access shafts located at intervals along the single-track rail tunnel between Park Station and Sandton Station. These shafts will provide emergency services personnel access to the tunnels below. At the bottom of certain of these shafts there will be safe havens where passengers can gather in case of an emergency. Construction works are ongoing at each of these emergency access shafts.
PARK STATION
Construction of the adjacent multi-level parkade at Johannesburg Park Station
Access stairs to the Johannesburg Park Station platform
Within the underground station, internal brickwork and plastering are well advanced and wall and floor tiling at concourse level are in progress. Mechanical and electrical (M&E) installations are ongoing and escalator installation has started. At the parkade structure being constructed above the station, four of the six levels of parking deck slabs have been cast. Reinstatement of Wolmarans Street is complete and earthworks for the reinstatement of Smit Street are in progress. Construction of the cut & cover section linking the northern end of the station box to the tunnel portal is ongoing.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E1 (HILLBROW)
Construction works in the safe haven and technical rooms located at the bottom of this shaft are ongoing and foundations for the surface head house structure have commenced.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E2 (THE WILDS, HOUGHTON)
Construction works in the safe haven and technical rooms located at the bottom of this shaft are ongoing.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E3 (RIVIERA)
Shaft construction works and the head house structure on the surface are complete and M&E installations are in progress. Being a shallow shaft with direct access to the surface, there is no safe haven necessary at the bottom of this shaft.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E4 (HOUGHTON)
Shaft construction works and the head house structure on the surface are complete and M&E installations are in progress. Like E3, being a shallow shaft with direct access to the surface, there is no safe haven necessary at the bottom of this shaft.
Construction works in the safe haven at Emergency Shaft 1, Hillbrow
Construction of a technical room inside the Emergency Shaft 1 (Hillbrow) safe haven
ROSEBANK STATION
Backfilling of the roof slab over the station box and of the northern cut and cover is in progress. Reinstatement of Oxford Road above the station structure will follow in the next few months. Internal brickwork and plastering at both platform and concourse levels are substantially complete. Escalators have been positioned within the station box and M&E installations are ongoing.
At the parkade structure, located on corner of Oxford Road and Baker Street, columns and beams to the first floor of the parking deck are ongoing and placing of precast slabs to the first floor deck has commenced.
Backfilling of the roof slab over the station box at Rosebank Station
Construction works on platform level at Rosebank Station
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E5 (DUNKELD, ROSEBANK)
Construction of the safe haven and technical rooms located at the bottom of this shaft are in progress.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E6 (ILLOVO)
Construction of the technical rooms located at the bottom of this shaft is ongoing.
EMERGENCY ACCESS SHAFT E7 (WESTERN SIDE OF RIVONIA ROAD, SANDTON)
Construction of the technical rooms located at the bottom of this shaft is ongoing.
SANDTON STATION
Underground station construction works are well advanced in the cavern section between the south and north shafts where the platforms are located, as well as within the shafts themselves. These works include construction of the various platforms, the technical rooms and operational rooms, as well as the escalator and lift shafts and stairways that are located within the shafts. Mechanical and Electrical (M&E) installations are in progress and the escalators that will transport commuters between the station entrance and the underground platforms have been installed.
Tiling of platforms is in progress and erection of the structural steelwork frame that will form the station entrance structure located on the corner of Rivonia Road and West Street is ongoing. Construction of the adjacent multi-level parkade structure, is progressing apace.
Tracklaying within the station is complete, the tracks are energized and the first Gautrain Electrostar train arrived at Sandton Station on 26 February 2010. Test running of trains between Sandton and ORTIA will be ongoing during the coming weeks.
Gautrain arriving at Sandton Station
Construction of the structural steel roof for Sandton Station
MARLBORO PORTAL
The portal at Marlboro is the point where the tunnel section ‘daylights’. It separates the underground and surface sections of the route. Apart from final finishings and some landscaping, works in this area are complete. Since 26 February 2010, the Gautrain Electrostar trains have been test running from ORTIA and through the tunnel to Sandton on a regular basis.
2. Surface alignment
VIADUCTS 1A AND 11 OVER JUKSKEI RIVER AND EAST BANK ROAD
Viaducts 1A and 11, which are located between the Portal and Marlboro Station and carry the railway lines across the Jukskei River and East Bank Drive, are both complete, as are the rest of the construction works and railway installations in this area, apart from some finishing works and landscaping.
MARLBORO STATION
At Marlboro Station, internal finishes and curtain wall glazing are well advanced. Tiling of the platforms commenced at the end of January and is ongoing. Railway tracks have been laid through the station and are operational.
Externally, works continue at the bus terminal, with kerb laying on the parking deck and construction of the boundary around the station site also in progress.
External view of Marlboro Station
Escalators and access stairs inside Marlboro Station
B) NORTHERN SECTION (Depot to Hatfield Station)
VIADUCT 2 OVER MODDERFONTEIN SPRUIT
Viaduct 2 and the two adjacent bridges over the future Frankenwald and Maxwell Roads are complete, with railway infrastructure in place across all three of these structures and this section of the alignment is operational.
TRAIN AND BUS DEPOTS
All Train Depot facilities, including the maintenance workshops, the train system administration buildings and operations control centre, are complete and operational. This centre is the heartbeat of Gautrain from where signalling, telecommunications, automatic fare collection, traction power and overhead distribution CCTV cameras and maintenance will be managed using world-class, high technology systems.
At the Train Depot, Gautrain’s 24 train sets will be maintained, serviced cleaned, and securely stabled overnight.
At the adjacent Bus Maintenance Depot, which will perform a similar function for Gautrain's dedicated fleet of 125 luxury buses, construction is well advanced. This facility is located in the area that was occupied by the precast yard, which was dismantled a few months ago. Construction of the bus workshop, canteen, gatehouse, bus wash facility, fuel bay and apron slabs is ongoing, together with refurbishment of the admin building previously utilized as site offices.
RAIL YARD AND TRACKWORKS
All trackwork and the stabling sidings within the Depot area are complete, energized and operational.
On the mainline sections, trackworks are complete from Sandton Station to ORTIA on the East-West Line and to Dale Road in Midrand on the North-South Line. All of these lines are energized and operational.
Whilst dynamic testing of trains was initially confined to the approximately 7 km long ‘test track’ section of the route from behind Linbro Park to Midrand, test running of trains is now also taking place on the full Phase 1 section between the Depot, Sandton and ORTIA on both the north-south and east-west routes.
Tracklaying from Dale Road northwards commenced late last year and by the end of February, tracklaying operations had progressed to the vicinity of Olifantsfontein Road Bridge to the north of Midrand Station.
Completed track between Marlboro and Rhodesfield Stations
Gautrain arriving on top of Viaduct 15 at Rhodesfield Station
RAIL CAR ASSEMBLY AND TESTING
By the end of February, 50 of the 96 rail cars had been delivered to the Depot. This equates to 12 complete four-car trains.
Gautrain’s rolling stock of 96 rail cars is based on the renowned Bombardier Electrostar series, which is used extensively in the United Kingdom.
The first 15 rail cars were manufactured and fully assembled at Bombardier Transportation’s facility in Derby in the U.K. The manufacture of body shells and components for the remainder of the fleet is ongoing. All 15 of these Derby-built rail cars were delivered to the Depot during the first half of 2009.
The body shells and major components for the remaining 81 rail cars are being ‘flat packed’ into crates and shipped to South Africa for assembly in Nigel. Delivery to the Depot of rail cars assembled at Union Carriage and Wagon Partnership in Nigel, which commenced during April 2009, is ongoing.
Dynamic testing of train sets continues on the 7km test track adjacent to the Depot, as well as between the Depot, Sandton and ORTIA on both the north-south and east-west routes.
VIADUCT 3 OVER ALLENDALE ROAD
North of the Depot, Viaduct 3 and all bridges, construction works and railway installations are substantially complete to beyond Midrand Station, with only some minor finishing items and completion of landscaping works outstanding. This section of the route includes the test track, where dynamic testing of train sets is ongoing.
MIDRAND STATION
At Midrand Station, station building works are substantially complete, with roof cladding to the platforms and over the concourse now complete. Interior tiling and finishing works, together with M&E installations, are well advanced. Platforms are substantially complete and platform tiling will commence shortly.
Externally, the upper car park area has been surfaced and erection of carport structures is in progress. Earthworks on the lower level bus terminus area is ongoing and bus canopy and walkway structural steelwork erection is well advanced. Layerworks on the new section of Grand Central Boulevard, which forms the access road into the station, will commence shortly.
From Midrand Station to the Technopark area at Centurion, civil works are approaching completion. Completion of fencing, landscaping and finishing works are ongoing. Catenary masts have bee erected along most of this section and tracklaying is ongoing to the north of Midrand Station. By month end, tracklaying operations had progressed to the vicinity of Olifantsfontein Road Bridge.
Construction of Midrand Station
Track laying vehicle on the alignment through Midrand Station
VIADUCT 4 OVER RIETSPRUIT AND OLIFANTSFONTEIN ROAD SOUTH
Viaduct 4 is complete and is ready for the installation of railway lines and associated railway infrastructure.
VIADUCT 5 OVER THE N1, BEN SCHOEMAN AND INCLUDING CENTURION STATION
Viaduct 5c carries the elevated Gautrain railway lines through Centurion, forming the link between the balanced cantilever viaducts crossing the N1 highway at John Vorster interchange in the south and the Ben Schoeman highway at the Jean Avenue interchange in the north. It supports the elevated Centurion Station platforms located approximately midway along its length. At the end of February, eight spans remain to be completed at the northern end of this viaduct. Erection of segments at these remaining spans of Viaduct 5c will continue during the next few weeks, to link it to the balanced cantilever viaduct over Jean Avenue.
Construction of the in-situ balanced cantilever deck sections at both the John Vorster and Jean Avenue Viaducts continues to progress steadily. Completion of the remaining span sections at both of these exceptionally graceful structures will be achieved within the next few weeks.
Construction of Viaduct 5 at John Vorster Avenue, Centurion
Construction of Viaduct 5 at John Vorster Avenue, Centurion.
The Centurion Station platforms are elevated and are located on Viaduct 5, which runs immediately adjacent and parallel to West Street. The concourse buildings and parking area are at ground level. The station building works and platform access stair and lift shaft construction are substantially complete. Platform and concourse roof cladding is complete, as is erection of curtain wall framing to the concourse area. Glazing of the West Street façade has commenced. Within the concourse, M&E installations and finishing trades are ongoing, with floor tiling well advanced and wall tiling in progress. Earthworks and layer works are in progress at the parking area and bus terminus area.
Construction works on platform level at Centurion Station
Glazing of the Centurion Station West Street facade
The Centurion Station platforms are elevated and are located on Viaduct 5, which runs immediately adjacent and parallel to West Street. The concourse buildings and parking area are at ground level. Erection of the precast platforms and parapets atop the viaduct is complete and platform roof cladding is well advanced. Station building works, platform access stairs and lift shaft construction are all substantially complete. The structural steel curtain wall framing to the concourse area is in progress. Finishing trades within the concourse have commenced and mechanical and electrical installations within the technical rooms are ongoing. Earthworks and dynamic compaction of the parking area continue and layer works are in progress.
VIADUCT 6 OVER EEUFEES ROAD
At Viaduct 6, piling at the southern abutment has been completed and abutment construction will now proceed. Four of the six deck spans have been erected.
VIADUCT 7 OVER NELSON MANDELA BOULEVARD
Construction of this viaduct is progressing apace. The deck to the section that will carry the railway lines across Nelson Mandela Boulevard is well advanced and parapet erection is in progress. Pier and trestle beam construction for the remaining sections of this “Y-shaped” structure that will cross over the existing railway lines is ongoing, together with placing of the M-beams for the bridge decks.
PRETORIA STATION
At Pretoria Station, construction works for the station buildings and platforms are substantially complete, with curtain wall glazing approaching completion and internal finishing works ongoing. Mechanical and electrical installations are in progress. Parking area construction continues and refurbishment of the historically significant coach washing shed, that has been incorporated into the station design, has started.
Internal finishes of Pretoria Station
Pretoria Station platform
HATFIELD STATION
At Hatfield Station, the concourse slab over the existing PRASA tracks and the future Gautrain railway lines is now complete. Erection of the structural steelwork for the concourse building located on top of this slab has commenced. All eight levels of the parkade structure have now been cast, precast parapet erection is well advanced and the adjacent lift shaft is approaching completion. M&E works within the parkade structure are in progress. At the adjacent Grosvenor Street Bridge, deck construction is ongoing. Construction of the bus management facilities within the bus terminus area has commenced.
Between Pretoria Station and Hatfield Station, a number of bridges crossing the existing PRASA railway line require to either be widened or lengthened to accommodate the adjacent Gautrain tracks. Whilst most of these bridges have already been completed and reopened to traffic, works on the remaining structures are ongoing. Extensive lateral support works in cuttings, together with the earthworks and construction of the retaining structures necessary to widen the existing embankments, are ongoing.
Construction of the adjacent multi-story parkade at Hatfield Station
Structural works for the construction of Hatfield Station concourse and platform
C) EAST-WEST AIRPORT LINK
3. Airport Link (Marlboro Station to OR Tambo International Airport)

Civil construction works are substantially complete along the entire airport link, which includes eleven bridges, three viaducts and a number of other structures, including the platforms for a future station at Modderfontein. Remaining works are limited to some final finishings and completion of landscaping in certain areas.
Trackworks and associated railway infrastructure are also complete, with this section of the route now energized and operational.
VIADUCT 13 OVER CENTENARY WAY, MODDERFONTEIN
Viaduct 13 is complete, with the railway lines across this structure now in use.
VIADUCT 14 OVER ZUURFONTEIN ROAD AND RAILWAY LINE
Viaduct 14 is complete, with the railway lines across this structure now in use.
VIADUCT 15 INCLUDING RHODESFIELD STATION
Rhodesfield Station is positioned approximately one third of the way along Viaduct 15, directly above the existing PRASA railway lines running between Isando and Kempton Park. The platforms are elevated, with the station entrance, concourse and parking area located at ground level, on the eastern side of the existing railway lines.
Construction of the station is approaching completion. The platforms, access ways and the station buildings are all substantially complete. Internal finishes are well advanced and technical equipment and M&E installations are ongoing. Platform tiling is in progress. Railway tracks have been laid through the station and the lines are in use. Externally, the attenuation pond is complete and parking area construction, apart from the area immediately surrounding the station concourse, is well advanced. Bus canopy structures are approaching completion and erection of carport structural steelwork is in progress.
Immediately adjacent to the Gautrain station, the Passenger Rail Agency of South Africa (PRASA) continues with construction of a new station on its system. This will provide commuters with a convenient transfer link between the Gautrain and PRASA systems. Construction of the PRASA station foundations and columns is ongoing and installation of railway lines through the new station is in progress.
Viaduct 15 is complete, with the railway lines across this structure now in use.
Gautrain arriving at Rhodesfield Station
Construction of Rhodesfield Station on top of Viaduct 15
VIADUCT 15 INCLUDING OR TAMBO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT STATION
The ORTIA Station concourse is located at the eastern end of viaduct 15 and is directly linked to the departures level of the adjacent new Central Terminal Building, one level below.
Finishing works within the station concourse shell are substantially complete, as are electrical and mechanical installations. Ticket vending machines and fare gates have been installed and are being tested. Public address sytems have been installed.
Externally, the platform structures and canopies are substantially complete, with platform tiling to commence shortly. Rail tracks have been installed through the station. Construction of the three sets emergency access stairs located at the ends on the platform is ongoing.
Finishing works within the station concourse shell at OR Tambo International Airport Station
Ticket vending machines installed at OR Tambo International Airport Station
D) OVERALL PROGRESS
Construction started at the end of September 2006. Gautrain will be completed in two phases:
  1. The first phase has a duration of 45 months. It includes the network between the OR Tambo International Airport and Sandton and includes the stations at OR Tambo, Rhodesfield, Marlboro and Sandton, together with the Depot and Operations Control Centre located near Allandale Road in Midrand.
  2. The second phase, being constructed concurrently, will be completed in 54 months, during 2011. It includes the remainder of the rail network and stations linking Sandton to Park Station in Johannesburg and the route from Midrand to Hatfield.
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Yes, the Heathrow Express (some express!) is one of out of two European "bastard approaches" where a railway company milks a monopoly for whatever it's worth.
I can't see what you mean by "monopoly", when Heathrow is also served by the Connect train and London Underground. I'd say it follows both approaches(overpriced "express" and cheap but slow metro) with a third compromise between the two. The Stansted Express might fit your description pretty well though.

Back on topic, the Gautrain looks great. I like how sleek the trains look, and that golden paintjob. Looks like it could be a success.
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Park Station concourse and ticket office



Park Station parkade



Centurion station concourse and ticket office



Gautrain at Rhodesfield Station



Bus terminus at Marlboro Station



Marlboro Station concourse



This one above is my absolute favourite - the Gautrain on the Sandton Station platform
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Installation of roof structure over Sandton station entrance


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It does look very nice E.N.D. and as a lover of, shall we say, progress through infrastructure I would certainly congratulate South Africa. But... one burning question: is this going to be ready in time for the Football World Cup?

I ask this question not because I'm a "fetischist" about sports events, but rather because the railway press here in France where I live has begun to take a very negative editorial line. The Chinese (said a magazine last month) managed to build four subway lines with a total 54 stations in less than five years from start to finish in preparation of the Beijing Olympics. The South Africans (again, I'm quoting) are hard pressed to finish one surface railway line from the airport to the norther suburbs of Johannesburg. I don't want to believe in this. So...

...please, PLEASE, someone tell me the French press is wrong.
I am wondering if the French press is stating that the Gauteng project is run by a French consortium? Bombela Consortium is a partnership between Bombardier Transportation, Bouygues Travaux Publics, Murray & Roberts, the Loliwe companies and RATP Développement.
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Screencaps from Sydney Seshibedi's slideshow found on http://www.multimedia.timeslive.co.z...-the-gautrain/

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Very nice infrastructure, especially the stations, which are attractive without being overly grandiose. If only my native California could ever build such a line (I really have doubts now).

May I ask a question, what is the type of signaling to be used on this line- lineside signaling or cab signals? I ask because I see max speed is 160km/h, which happens to be the maximum permitted speed for lineside signal operation here in Japan.
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I am wondering if the French press is stating that the Gauteng project is run by a French consortium? Bombela Consortium is a partnership between Bombardier Transportation, Bouygues Travaux Publics, Murray & Roberts, the Loliwe companies and RATP Développement.
HigerBigger, the French press is ACUTELY aware of this fact. It is actually part of the problem (as I see it). "Grands Projets" her in France are routinely capped by payments by the government of anywhere from 200 mill EUR to several billions for completion on time and in recompensation of - real or imaginatory - unforeseen complications during the construction process.

It is ingrained - and, as a resident of Paris, I say this with considerable regret - in the national pscyche that timeliness and technichal parameters should be much more important to "responsible public authorities" than beancounter issues such as financial cost. If the authorities of Gauteng got themselves involved in a dispute with Bombela about costs then, in French eyes, this would reflect poorly on the authorities.... "Real public authorities, in the mold of Napoleon 3, care nothing about petty cash; they care everything about the grandeur des grands projets!" (OK, I exaggerate, but not much. )
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May I ask a question, what is the type of signaling to be used on this line- lineside signaling or cab signals? I ask because I see max speed is 160km/h, which happens to be the maximum permitted speed for lineside signal operation here in Japan.
The Gautrain uses lineside signaling coupled with onboard ATP.
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The Gautrain uses lineside signaling coupled with onboard ATP.
Thank you. Looking forward to seeing pictures of the signal setup in future posts.
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