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Old November 5th, 2014, 06:05 PM   #1
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ST LOUIS - New Football Stadium

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Old November 5th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #2
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How is this being greeted in STL? Seems somewhat similar to Oakland, which has appointed a new lead to develop a stadium plan for the Raiders and now has moved his deadline up to early January to beat the expected Feb. announcement of team moves. Is there any reason to believe Kroenke is interested, having held firm so far on wanting a roof and other state of the art considerations and having bought land in Inglewood?

Special meetings of the NFL finance and stadium committees have supposedly been called for later this month. If the STL plan is not available for those meetings, it doesn't seem it will have much influence on the process.
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I think is too soon to open this thread.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #4
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As much as I want the Rams to come back to LA, I just don't have a good feeling about.

You have to remember, St. Louis is barely a blip on the radar, the only thing that keeps that city somewhat relevant is its sport franchises. I can definitely see the city getting desperate and letting the Rams bend them over as they did 20 years ago. St. Louis is desperately trying to hang on to what it has, I can't really blame them.

I hope the Rams return to LA though, that would be the most logical choice.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #5
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The State governor has formed an official committee to keep the Rams in Missouri and a new stadium proposal should be announced within 60 days.

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During a media teleconference on Wednesday morning, Governor Jay Nixon tabbed two prominent St. Louis area business and civic leaders with the task of laying out a plan for the state of Missouri to present to the Rams as a viable stadium option for keeping the NFL team in St. Louis.
Nixon has called on former Anheuser-Busch president Dave Peacock and Clayton attorney Bob Blitz to work over the next 60 days to analyze the current situation and present options that can be given to the NFL and Rams organization.
Nixon said there are no two better people to lead this charge, which needs to be completed within two months, so the state can communicate back to the Rams in advance of January 28th. That is the deadline the team set to provide notice of their intent to convert their lease with the dome from year to year.
Peacock was on the Pro Football Hall of Fame advisory board. According to Nixon, he brings expertise and contacts regionally and nationally that will help in this process. Peacock has also worked directly with the NFL on advertising and marketing matters while with A-B.
Blitz was part of the legal team that brought the Rams to St. Louis from Los Angeles.
http://www.missourinet.com/2014/11/0...t-louis-audio/


Sources have said that new stadium talks have already been going on behind closed doors and it seems the desired location is on the riverfront just north of the current stadium adjacent to the new Stan Musical Bridge. The city wants to redevelop the industrial area and there would be room for surface parking which would enhance the tailgating experience and give Rams owner Kroenke the parking revenue he desires.
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As much as I want the Rams to come back to LA, I just don't have a good feeling about.

You have to remember, St. Louis is barely a blip on the radar, the only thing that keeps that city somewhat relevant is its sport franchises. I can definitely see the city getting desperate and letting the Rams bend them over as they did 20 years ago. St. Louis is desperately trying to hang on to what it has, I can't really blame them.

I hope the Rams return to LA though, that would be the most logical choice.
I'm sure the people of St Louis are grateful for your pitty.
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You have to remember, St. Louis is barely a blip on the radar
The #19 TV market in the US, larger than 11 other markets that have NFL teams.
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The #19 TV market in the US, larger than 11 other markets that have NFL teams.
So I guess this is being taken seriously by people in STL. Seems odd this late in the process.
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So I guess this is being taken seriously by people in STL. Seems odd this late in the process.
It's being taken seriously by the governor. I'm sure it will be mostly tax breaks and paying for infrastructure improvements that will get any deal done, similar to how the new Cardinals stadium deal got assistance from the state after the local voters said they wouldn't pay for it and they love the cardinals, there is no chance in hell a sales tax would pass in STL to pay for the new Rams stadium.
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It's being taken seriously by the governor. I'm sure it will be mostly tax breaks and paying for infrastructure improvements that will get any deal done, similar to how the new Cardinals stadium deal got assistance from the state after the local voters said they wouldn't pay for it and they love the cardinals, there is no chance in hell a sales tax would pass in STL to pay for the new Rams stadium.
I will admit to ignorance about Missouri politics, but my guess is that the possibility of a new stadium is not being taken seriously by the governor.

He must have been given some prior warning by the NFL that discussions re a move are progressing and he is positioning himself for possible bad news. Almost the same process is working out in Oakland, with the city council commissioning a new stadium proposal for the Raiders due at just about the same time as the Missouri plan.
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I will admit to ignorance about Missouri politics, but my guess is that the possibility of a new stadium is not being taken seriously by the governor.

He must have been given some prior warning by the NFL that discussions re a move are progressing and he is positioning himself for possible bad news. Almost the same process is working out in Oakland, with the city council commissioning a new stadium proposal for the Raiders due at just about the same time as the Missouri plan.
EDIT: Sure enough, the mayor-elect of Oakland has pointed out the day after the election all the terrible shortcomings of the prior mayor's plans to keep the Raiders, Warriors and A's. She has also suggested that keeping the A's will be her main goal but that not one cent of public money will be spent.

Classic political high drama. Probably time to cue the clowns and their finger-pointing dance.
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EDIT: Sure enough, the mayor-elect of Oakland has pointed out the day after the election all the terrible shortcomings of the prior mayor's plans to keep the Raiders, Warriors and A's. She has also suggested that keeping the A's will be her main goal but that not one cent of public money will be spent.

Classic political high drama. Probably time to cue the clowns and their finger-pointing dance.
I tried to keep a straight face as I read that. If she can pull that off, she should win the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 07:38 PM   #14
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I tried to keep a straight face as I read that. If she can pull that off, she should win the Nobel Peace Prize.
lol. I had the same response and talked about her insulting the intelligence of the local residents.

But my wife straightened me out: she said of course no one believes that, it's all PR. But that's what she is supposed to say as mayor of the city; that's part of the job description, show that she still loves us even in times of trouble and grief.
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As much as I want the Rams to come back to LA, I just don't have a good feeling about.

You have to remember, St. Louis is barely a blip on the radar, the only thing that keeps that city somewhat relevant is its sport franchises. I can definitely see the city getting desperate and letting the Rams bend them over as they did 20 years ago. St. Louis is desperately trying to hang on to what it has, I can't really blame them.

I hope the Rams return to LA though, that would be the most logical choice.
Barely a blip on what radar? Yours? Well who the hell are you? Here we have another ignorant fool that thinks only huge flashy cities deserve NFL teams.
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Barely a blip on what radar? Yours? Well who the hell are you? Here we have another ignorant fool that thinks only huge flashy cities deserve NFL teams.
Dude! Be careful! Mr. Illusive is Roger Goodell's screen name.

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It's being taken seriously by the governor. I'm sure it will be mostly tax breaks and paying for infrastructure improvements that will get any deal done, similar to how the new Cardinals stadium deal got assistance from the state after the local voters said they wouldn't pay for it and they love the cardinals, there is no chance in hell a sales tax would pass in STL to pay for the new Rams stadium.
That's what I was thinking, I couldn't imagine support for a new stadium considering they are still paying $18 Million per year until 2021 for the current one. Seems like the people of St. Louis have learned a valuable lesson but the politicians haven't.

We had the same thing in Minnesota, no way would referendums have passed for any of our new stadiums. And I don't think the new Vikings stadium funding is economically viable. If things play out the way I think they will over the next 20-30 years it may be the last publically funded stadium the state ever builds.
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I'm not even going to post this in the LA-Farmers field post as there are to many homers in there who think the Rams have already moved to LA...

Kroenke, Rams Will Stay If St. Louis Builds New Stadium

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according to Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, a possible outdoor stadium project is further along than Nixon(Governor) has indicated.
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So is Kroenke prepared to foot the bill for this stadium? It's not like he's broke or anything.
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