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Old June 2nd, 2012, 02:50 AM   #1
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DETROIT - New Red Wings Arena (20,000)

Red Wings select architect for new, 18,000-seat arena
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120521/SPORTS0103/205210400/Report-Red-Wings-select-architect-new-18-000-seat-arena?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

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HKS was co-designer of American Airlines Center in Dallas. Chan Krieger NBBJ is a Boston firm that specializes in urban developments; it has worked on the Detroit riverfront project. The Wings have been on record saying they want a new arena in downtown Detroit, possibly near Mike Ilitch's Comerica Park and Fox Theatre.
Red Wings Closer To New Arena With Pair Of Architects
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...Red-Wings.aspx

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The responsibility of architect Alex Krieger, founding principal of Chan Krieger NBBJ and a Harvard professor of urban design, is to develop an entertainment district tied to a new arena in Detroit, similar to Nationwide Arena in Columbus and Staples Center in Los Angeles, sources said.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 02:54 AM   #2
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 03:00 AM   #3
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Geez, where are they going to find an empty lot in Detroit for this project?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 03:05 AM   #4
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That's why Illitch brought in Amway as a sponsor. Amway will finance the new arena.
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There will not just be a new arena, but also another mall type area next door and connected to the arena.
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- Behind the Fox Theater, Mr. I has been buy land here for a while now.
- Next door to the Motor City Casino, Mr. I has also bought a lot of land there as well.
- There could be another unknown area as well
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Babcock accidentally leaked info about some kind of mall that is going to accompany this new arena. it looks as though they are really thinking big and intend to make this a major destination spot downtown. Illitch has dedicated untold amounts of money to restoring Detroit to prominance. He's smart enough to know the rest of the city is helpless, but downtown could still be salvaged into something cool
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10 bucks says the new arena moved to the area of motor city casino and hotel...Illitch could probably finance the new arena himself although probably doesnt want to and most of the visiting teams already stay at that particular hotel as Illitch holdings already own it and the adjacent propertys. they might put up a parking structure or two while cobo tears down the joe and uses that space for expansion.
Some speculation and rumors.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 03:17 AM   #5
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As a Wings fan this is a terrific news.

Anything to revitalize, and provide jobs for the city of Detroit is good too.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 08:13 AM   #6
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As an Avs fan, I hope it and the Joe burn to the ground...

But as an urban development junkie, I hope it gets built and looks awesome...

So torn...
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 08:21 AM   #7
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As a Wings fan this is a terrific news.

Anything to revitalize, and provide jobs for the city of Detroit is good too.
Yea since Comerica, Ford Field and the downtown casinos revitalized the city in the last decade.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 04:33 PM   #8
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Yea since Comerica, Ford Field and the downtown casinos revitalized the city in the last decade.
Without them there would be zero reason to go down there. Besides, you can't tell me hosting a Final Four, MLB All Star game and the Super Bowl was not helpful for business. Without Ilitch Holdings and the sports teams the city would be an even bigger mess.

My biggest problem is the Pistons being stuck in the Palace. It is a great arena but in the middle of nowhere. Plus the loyal Pistons fan base is mainly in the city of Detroit and the suburbs of Wayne county. The people in Oakland county only show up when the team is going to six straight EC finals but, when the team is in its current shape half the arena is empty.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:02 PM   #9
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Hello and welcome Redwingfan.

Looks good going to be great news for the team and the city.
Could the Pistons move into this new arena?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:04 PM   #10
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Making it look like the old Detroit Olympia would be brilliant. I like it.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:34 PM   #11
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Hello and welcome Redwingfan.

Looks good going to be great news for the team and the city.
Could the Pistons move into this new arena?
No, Pistons have different ownership. If Illitch bought Pistons then they would have, or Wings would have moved in to the Palace.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:35 PM   #12
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No, Pistons have different ownership. If Illitch bought Pistons then they would have, or Wings would have moved in to the Palace.
oh right ok how old is the Palace ?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 07:14 PM   #13
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Its approaching 2 decades if it hasnt already, its still very functional. More so than Joe Louis.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 08:38 PM   #14
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When the idea of a new Wings arena was floated a few years ago, some had the very clever idea to make it a modern shrine to hockey. If any fans have ever journeyed to Conseco Fieldhouse in Indiana, they’ll know what I mean. That place is 10 years old, but it oozes old-time basketball. It would be really neat to duplicate that here for hockey. With one team in there, you can do that. With two, it’s a little bit harder.
This is why I hope Ilitch builds it as a "hockey first" arena. You can still include the option for basketball (example http://www.newolympia.blogspot.com/2...loor-plan.html) but hockey and the Wings should be the main focus.

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Mike Ilitch is "definitely committed" to building a new sports arena downtown, and he would fill it with entertainment technology unlike anything seen before in arenas, Ilitch point man Tom Wilson said this morning.
I'm pretty excited to see what comes together in the next few years.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 08:55 PM   #15
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Hmmm, so people in Detroit would like to see a retro style exterior (like AAC), rather than a more futuristic looking one?

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Modern/Futuristic

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Old June 2nd, 2012, 11:55 PM   #16
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This is why I hope Ilitch builds it as a "hockey first" arena. You can still include the option for basketball (example http://www.newolympia.blogspot.com/2...loor-plan.html) but hockey and the Wings should be the main focus.

I'm pretty excited to see what comes together in the next few years.
Me too. Hope they name is Amway Detroit Olympia.

emphasis on Detroit Olympia of course. And change the corporate part around and for the highest bidders.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 05:44 AM   #17
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Yea since Comerica, Ford Field and the downtown casinos revitalized the city in the last decade.
The casinos have been a huge success. They provide hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue for the city. They're so successful Ohio put a casino in Toledo to prevent Ohioans from going to Detroit to gamble. Lots of cities have added casinos since Detroit built there's. The area around the two stadiums has been developed. Just look at the Broderick Tower that's set to open soon. This is ridiculous thinking that one move is going to completely revitalize a city. Building the arena and entertainment complex in Brush Park can bridge the gap between downtown and midtown.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 05:49 AM   #18
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The Pistons aren't leaving. The Palace is a fine building and still one of the nicest buildings in the NBA. Despite not having a hockey team, it is one of the top 5 busiest arena's in the US. Tom Gores who owns the Pistons also owns the Palace. He also owns the parking surrounding the Palace. No way is he going to give that up to lease a new arena from Illitch. Why lease when you already own a fine building?
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 06:23 AM   #19
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Amway will finance the new arena? Only once they get their friends to chip in who will get their friends to chip in and then those friends get their friends to chip in.......
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 02:35 PM   #20
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I don't think the Red Wings arena is going to be a $500 million monster, because the Palace will still be 30 miles north and so will the Pistons. The new Red Wings arena will get more concert business, but nearly not all of it. Hopefully the Wings can come up with something nice but on a reasonable budget.

BTW, I drew this up, I hope they are looking at something like this.





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