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Old November 23rd, 2010, 04:39 AM   #81
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I would really like to hear what Argentine ” whites” think of them...

Juan Sebastian Veron - White or Mixed???
Maradona - White or mixed ????
Carlos Tevez (Carlitos ) - White or Mixed ???
Juan Román Riquelme - White or Mixed ???
Darío Conca - White or Mixed ????
Pablo Guiñazú - White or Mixed ?? etc , etc , etc ...


Examples of Argentinian mestizos:
Carlos Tevez, Diego Maradona, Camoranesi, Hernan Crespo (soccer players)
Carolina Ardohain, Carla Conte, Karina Jelinek, Mariana de Melo (models)
Carlos "La Mona "Jimenez, Daniel Agostini, Ariel Casco ( cumbia singers)
Mercedes Sosa, Victor Heredia, Luciano Pereyra ( folk singers)

Argentina is not just Buenos Aires and it is certainly NOT totally European. There are more than 20 provinces in many different climates, there are still Mapuches, Guaranis, Afro Argentinians.
Well , I think there's many many many mestizos in Argentina !!!
I believe that millions of Argentines are mestizos .

Ops !!!! Certainly millions of Argentines are mestizos

you seem to be a fan of argentinean celebrities!
good for you!

happily on TV and media in Argentina there's no need to be caucasian like in other countries.

there are millions of "mestizos" in Argentina of course, no one denies that and is not bad. who said Argentina is Czech Republic in 1920?

you are very funny even if you are obsessed with mestizos and seem to be very complexed!

I just posted a wikipeadia article about Buenos Aires.

If it make you happy you can think whatever you like, but facts are other thing.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 04:46 AM   #82
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you seem to be a fan of argentinean celebrities!
good for you!

happily on TV and media in Argentina there's no need to be caucasian like in other countries.

there are millions of "mestizos" in Argentina of course, no one denies that and is not bad. who said Argentina is Czech Republic in 1920?

you are very funny even if you are obsessed with mestizos and seem to be very complexed!

I just posted a wikipeadia article about Buenos Aires.

If it make you happy you can think whatever you like, but facts are other thing.
I have been in BA many times, and never BA is more cosmopolitan than SP!

I think Rio and BA are in the same level.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:00 AM   #83
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BA is not cosmopolitan, there are very few blacks, asians and "non european" people...sao paolo and brasil in general are more like USA, because of the larger population and more mixed inmigration
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:09 AM   #84
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mehh, who cares... diversity is overrated.

Still, i would like to see some real numbers on immigrant population for both cities (BA and SP) because some paulistas seems a bit arrogant in their affirmations

Americans: more in Buenos Aires
Asians: more in Sao Paulo
Europeans: more in Buenos Aires
Africans: more in Sao Paulo
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:52 AM   #85
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cool photos. I like them.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 09:00 AM   #86
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mehh, who cares... diversity is overrated.

Still, i would like to see some real numbers on immigrant population for both cities (BA and SP) because some paulistas seems a bit arrogant in their affirmations

Americans: more in Buenos Aires
Asians: more in Sao Paulo
Europeans: more in Buenos Aires
Africans: more in Sao Paulo
yeah!! you forgot that.
there're more Europeans in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Asians in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Whites in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Africans in Brazil than in Argentina

Pelé was better than Maradona ...
Brazil have 5 WC champions while Argentina ???

we're unbeatable ..lmao
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:01 PM   #87
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change portuguese by spanish and it's the same in BA.
but there are huge comunities from every latinamerican country in BA.

there wasn't black people a few years ago, but is plenty of dominicans and africans from different countries now in BA.
this is from wikipedia:

The majority of porteños have European origins, with Italian and Spanish descent being the most common, from the Calabrian, Ligurian, Piedmont, Lombardy and Neapolitan regions of Italy and from the Galician, Asturian, and Basque regions of Spain.[18][19]
Other European origins include German, Swedish, Dutch, Greek, Irish, Norwegian, Portuguese, French, Russian, Croatian, English and Welsh. In the 1990s there was a small wave of immigration from Romania and Ukraine.[20] There is a minority of old criollo stock, dating back to the Spanish colonial days. The Criollo and Spanish-aboriginal (mestizo) population in the city has increased mostly as a result of immigration, from countries such as Bolivia, Peru and Paraguay, since the second half of the 20th century.
Important Syrian-Lebanese and Armenian communities have had a significant presence in commerce and civic life since the beginning of the 20th century.
The Jewish community in Greater Buenos Aires numbers around 250,000, and is the largest in Latin America. Most are of Northern and Eastern European Ashkenazi origin, primarily Russian, German and Polish Jews, with a significant Sephardic minority, mostly made up of Syrian Jews.[21]
The first major East Asian community in Buenos Aires was the Japanese, mainly from Okinawa. Traditionally, Japanese-Argentines were noted as flower growers; in the city proper, there was a Japanese near-monopoly in dry cleaning. Later generations have branched out into all fields of economic activity. Starting in the 1970s there has been an important influx of immigration from China and Korea."

Since 2004 an increasing number of American and British citizens are moving to Buenos Aires, possibly due to the lower cost of living, many of them opening up businesses and some restaurants have become English-speaking favourites.[22]"

In BA there is a couple of jewish neighbourhouds, 2 german ones, a korean, an armenian, chinese, bolivian, peruvian, paragayan, several english, and comunities from where ever in the world in mixed neighbourhoods.
there are 10.000 colombian students and more than 5.000 equatorians, and more and more africans and centralamericans every year.

I've been to SP at least ten times and didn't find it that cosmopolitan.
It is certainly comspolitan but not as much as BA.
And Mexico city is not cosmopolitan at all.

I don't like BA being cosmopolitan, For me cosmopolitan is a negative caracteristic, I prefer homogenous societies like in inner Argentina or southern brazilean cities or eastern Europe where everybody is the same etnically and culturally.

But I must recognise BA is much more cosmopolitan than SP, even if I don't like this caracteristic of the city.
And I also have been to BA for four times , and in my opinion SP is much more Cosmopolitan than BA. Just different point of views, different opinions.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:52 PM   #88
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you seem to be a fan of argentinean celebrities!
good for you!

happily on TV and media in Argentina there's no need to be caucasian like in other countries.

there are millions of "mestizos" in Argentina of course, no one denies that and is not bad. who said Argentina is Czech Republic in 1920?

you are very funny even if you are obsessed with mestizos and seem to be very complexed!

I just posted a wikipeadia article about Buenos Aires.

If it make you happy you can think whatever you like, but facts are other thing.

Sorry if my comments sounded like offense!!! about me ? Complexed ??? Why ???? Obviously not, my esteemed colleague. I am Brazilian and I'm half-French and Portuguese too, I have French ancestry with Portuguese , with great pride! But if I was mestizo???? What problem ??? What's wrong??? I think I would have no problem!

Thank God I was born in this wonderful land that is Brazil!
I am a very proud Brazilian !!!

Greetings to fellow Argentine!

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 04:44 PM   #89
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yeah!! you forgot that.
there're more Europeans in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Asians in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Whites in Brazil than in Argentina
there're more Africans in Brazil than in Argentina


It seems that a lot of brazilians have always a hard time (no matter what the subject is) in recognize the difference between absolute numbers and proportions.

Sao Paulo is richer than Zurich
Brazil is the richest country in the southern hemisphere
etc...

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:24 PM   #90
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It seems that a lot of brazilians have always a hard time (no matter what the subject is) in recognize the difference between absolute numbers and proportions.

Sao Paulo is richer than Zurich
Brazil is the richest country in the southern hemisphere
etc...

I agree with that, but then again, Argentines have difficulty too in understanding history, like the fact the Falklands are clearly british.


One way or the other, it seems most people here dont have any idea about what COSMOPOLITAN mean.

1 - it doesnt mean to be modern or rich
2 - it doesnt mean to have lots of DESCENDANTS of immigrants.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 08:15 PM   #91
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I agree with that, but then again, Argentines have difficulty too in understanding history, like the fact the Falklands are clearly british.


One way or the other, it seems most people here dont have any idea about what COSMOPOLITAN mean.

1 - it doesnt mean to be modern or rich
2 - it doesnt mean to have lots of DESCENDANTS of immigrants.

..well said

cosmopolitan can also be about sophistication and being free from national prejudice
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It seems that a lot of brazilians have always a hard time (no matter what the subject is) in recognize the difference between absolute numbers and proportions.

Sao Paulo is richer than Zurich
Brazil is the richest country in the southern hemisphere
etc...

ok, you won !!!
Argentina is better and bigger than Brazil in all aspects.
Buenos Aires is so much better than SP in all Aspects.
The argentineans are better than brazilians in all aspects.
Are you happy now ????
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:12 PM   #93
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ok, you won !!!
Argentina is better and bigger than Brazil in all aspects.
Buenos Aires is so much better than SP in all Aspects.
The argentineans are better than brazilians in all aspects.
Are you happy now ????

Hey dude !!! I agree with u !!!! funny
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You guys have some serious reading comprehension problems...

btw, i'm waiting for the numbers for your weird affirmations.
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Brazil is more cosmopolitan than Argentina, from my point of view, but Argentina is not as european as many argentinians think.
( I 'm from Argentina, lived in Europe and know Brazil, and I'm moving there this summer).
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Old November 24th, 2010, 01:25 AM   #96
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Brazil is more cosmopolitan than Argentina
And from my point of view it isn´t.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #97
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but Argentina is not as european as many argentinians think
Curious. I never ever think about Argentina as an "European" country.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #98
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ok, you won !!!
Argentina is better and bigger than Brazil in all aspects.
Buenos Aires is so much better than SP in all Aspects.
The argentineans are better than brazilians in all aspects.
Are you happy now ????
Not yet.

We are better than you in every aspect, but besides we are more humble than you.
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..well said

cosmopolitan can also be about sophistication and being free from national prejudice
what??? No way.

a cosmopolitan person is a people of the world. A cosmopolitan city is a city of the world. Its a city where MANY languages are spoken and you hear different languages (several ones) on the street everyday. Where there are ACTIVE and big communities of 1st generation immigrants from THE MOST DIVERSE countries. Where there are people dressing in their traditional clothing from their original cultures/countries. Where there are big groups from most major religions. Etc, etc.
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Not yet.

We are better than you in every aspect, but besides we are more humble than you.
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