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Old November 17th, 2007, 02:33 PM   #221
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Waterloo Stations International Platforms will be refurbishment and reopened next year by South West Trains.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ars/article.do

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Old November 17th, 2007, 02:35 PM   #222
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Old November 17th, 2007, 04:34 PM   #223
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Old November 17th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #224
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Are we supposed to be able to read that?....
You can read it here, if you want to read it so much.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ent/columnists

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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #225
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Great pictures of St Pancras, but so far I havn't seen any of the extension part. Is it that boring?
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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #226
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'Fraid so.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #227
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Great pictures of St Pancras, but so far I havn't seen any of the extension part. Is it that boring?
To be honest there are not that many pics of inside the extension and basicaly it's just home to long platforms. The station does have a nice retail area
though, and the Midland Grand Hotel is undergoing refurbishment. The Midland was one of the most famous and most extravagant Victorian Hotels,
and it will be incredible when it re-opens in two years time.

http://www.sleepermagazine.co.uk/Sle...db_pancras.htm

Some photos of the Midland Grand at St Pancras which is being restored, whilst the Manhattan Loft Corporation are also
making part of the vast structure in to apartments.

http://www.urban75.org/london/thumbs.html

http://www.stpancraschambers.co.uk/




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Old November 18th, 2007, 02:37 AM   #228
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Great threat, wonderful pics of London's beautiful stations!

On the first page you can see a Eurostar and a new domestric HST standing side-to-side under the St. Pancras shed, but I suppose in normal operation there is a strict seperation between int'l and domestric trains, just like there was at Waterloo?

What will happen to the Waterloo E* platforms, BTW?
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Old November 18th, 2007, 06:40 AM   #229
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While I can certainly agree it would be billions, actually 10s of billions, but not 100s of billions for the line in question. It might reach the singular - 100billion, but I doubt it to be honest. This thing isn't going to built all underground or something similarly ludicrous.
Oh, for the UK, certainly. My hundreds-of-billions figure was for hypothetical long-distance lines in NA, not in the UK.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 06:47 AM   #230
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While I can certainly agree it would be billions, actually 10s of billions, but not 100s of billions for the line in question. It might reach the singular - 100billion, but I doubt it to be honest. This thing isn't going to built all underground or something similarly ludicrous

the Iraq war costed the US some estimated 1600 billion $.

800 billion $ officially and senate approved, and furhter 800 billion $ of costs, that came out of the rising oil price and all other unexpected consequences.

Taking the price for the Shanghai maglev of 25mio$ per kilometer, you would get 32 000 km of 500kmh maglev line for 800 billion $
With that ammount of maglev lines you would be abe to criss cross all of northern america, even the smallest vilage in Montana could get a maglev access....
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Old November 18th, 2007, 06:50 AM   #231
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Oh, for the UK, certainly. My hundreds-of-billions figure was for hypothetical long-distance lines in NA, not in the UK.
In that case we're on the same page. Sorry for staying on topic
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Old November 18th, 2007, 01:37 PM   #232
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Great threat, wonderful pics of London's beautiful stations!

On the first page you can see a Eurostar and a new domestric HST standing side-to-side under the St. Pancras shed, but I suppose in normal operation there is a strict seperation between int'l and domestric trains, just like there was at Waterloo?

What will happen to the Waterloo E* platforms, BTW?


The Waterloo Eurostar platforms are to be refurbished over the next year before being taken over by South West Trains.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ars/article.do

The Hitachi Javelin Domestic HST's will be used to provide services for the 2012 Olympic and on Domestic Routes from Kent,
and some of these new services will use the new St Pancras Domestic Station (part of the new extension).

Hitachi have also made the shorlist for the Intercity Replacement Programme (2012)

http://www.ticketworks.co.uk/1/repla...er_1187638121/





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Old November 18th, 2007, 02:18 PM   #233
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Hopefully the future will see direct Sleeper Trains from St Pancras to a host of European Destinations. At present you have to change at Paris or Brussels in order to take
Sleeper Trains to Italy and Southern Europe or Germany and Eastern Europe.

Plans for European Sleeper from 2008/9 - http://www.railwatch.org.uk/backtrac...8/rw098p10.pdf

Currently there are two UK Domestic Sleeper Services - The Caledonian Sleeper from London to Scotland and the Night Riviera Sleeper from London to Penzance in Cornwall.



http://www.firstgroup.com/scotrail/c...eper/index.php

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=1555

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Standard Train Cabin - Caledonian Sleeper Service

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The Night Ferry Train was also a well known sleeper service from London to Paris and Brussels.

http://www.dover-kent.co.uk/transport/night_ferry.htm






The UK has an array of overnight ferries to Europe, from Edinburgh (Rosyth), Newcastle, Hull and Harwich across the North Sea, from the south coast of England to parts of France and Spain
and from the West Coast there is a night ferry to Ireland.

Most modern ferries have bars, nightclubs, casinos, cinemas, restaurants and many other facilities, and there is a lot more to do than on a sleeper train.



Overnight Ferry.



Basic Standard Ferry Cabin



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Old November 18th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #234
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Well, the new platforms are not so nice, but the rest of the station is amazing!
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Old November 18th, 2007, 05:52 PM   #235
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Well, the new platforms are not so nice, but the rest of the station is amazing!
The extension was designed by Norman Foster and is mainly used for domestic services in the UK - the extension is functional
and does not detract or try to compete with the magnificent original architecture.

Link to a good article about the new station by Jonathan Glancey of The Guardian,

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/archi...188570,00.html


The New Thameslink at St Pancras

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Old November 18th, 2007, 08:34 PM   #236
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Finally managed to take some pictures and put them up.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 03:25 AM   #237
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I went to St Pancras after work, very nice building.

Took a few snaps.

http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com...tion&thumbs=ok
Beautiful shots. I also like some of your other galleries as well - you like trains and underground stations, huh?

I'm assuming you lug around a tripod to get most of your shots - no one gives you any grief about that? How much of your work do you edit in Photoshop?
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Old November 19th, 2007, 07:19 AM   #238
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beautiful shots of St Pancras international this is what a Railway Station should be now people come out of there like gods now

but i want to ask people here can anybody put pics of the Phase 2 and Phase 1 of High Speed 1 please i don't mind if its boring and why people say its boring the Phases of the CTRL? the Eurostar is faster now and this is what High Speed Rail should be
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Old November 19th, 2007, 02:32 PM   #239
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this is a good start http://www.lcrhq.co.uk/ (if you can get the website to work!!)
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Old November 19th, 2007, 02:37 PM   #240
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China is not a good comparison for construction costs. Labour is cheap and planning is easy.
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