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Old August 17th, 2009, 10:11 PM   #381
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No Eurostar??

I didn't think it was counted...? Is it?
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Old August 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM   #382
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Yeah, why shouldn't it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_373
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Old August 17th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #383
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Ooh dunno guess i thought it was part french or summit...ill add it in ;-)

GNER Euro Star Class 373...

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Old August 18th, 2009, 12:34 PM   #384
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The trains are OK, but the steam trains are the ones that really captured the imagination.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #385
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the thing i like about english trains is that they're so varied, lots of types of trains and lots of different liveries
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Old August 19th, 2009, 11:48 AM   #386
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poshbakerloo, thanks for the pics!
btw, how many rail companies there are in uk?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 01:22 AM   #387
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poshbakerloo, thanks for the pics!
btw, how many rail companies there are in uk?
A lot! lol...

I think 32 if you include 'sub brands' what ever that means...

27 if you don't...
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A lot! lol...

I think 32 if you include 'sub brands' what ever that means...

27 if you don't...
Could you show a map, if you got it
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Old August 20th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #389
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A lot of variation indeed and a lot of nice trains. But, I really dislike the crazy liveries, a lot of screaming colours and patterns, not very elegant. Also I dislike the the way they put the doors on the front of some trains but I guess that practicality goes above looks in that case.

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I one of the most ugly trains I have every seen, looks like it can transform in a Japanese robot or something like that.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #390
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Could you show a map, if you got it
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/tocs_m...noperators.pdf

That's passenger train operators... in addition of course there's plenty of freight companies. And heritage lines and mainline heritage and spot hire companies. And then there's infrastructure companies. Etc...
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:17 PM   #391
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Old August 21st, 2009, 06:37 PM   #392
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http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/tocs_m...noperators.pdf

That's passenger train operators... in addition of course there's plenty of freight companies. And heritage lines and mainline heritage and spot hire companies. And then there's infrastructure companies. Etc...
WOW thats a great map!
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Old August 21st, 2009, 06:44 PM   #393
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Proposed HS2 line in the UK and Airtrack

Anyone see on the news the other day about the plans to build a high speed line up the West Coast linking London, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Glasgow? My question is, does anyone think it will actually get built? There's always been a good case for more railways in the UK, but with the current economic situation the government will have to get an incredible amount of private investment to fund it. I'm guessing that the project will use technology and construction techniques from the TGV (dead straight sections, track separated from slow lines). The other problem is that there's basically no room on the surface for new lines and stations in city centres, so would having underground stations be the only solution? Again, massive costs. What will the ticket prices be like when it finally opens?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8221540.stm

The other scheme which is going ahead in the next few years is something called Airtrack, which is basically to run trains from Reading. Woking and south London to Heathrow Airport. This will involve building a rail tunnel to Heathrow from the south to meet the existing airport stations, re-opening a railway line across the edge of a nature reserve, and re-building a chord on a viaduct across what is now a car park in Staines. Airtrack is of particular significance to me as I live in a small town (Egham) which is bounded by four level crossings. At the moment we have basically been told that there is no way to build bridges or tunnels to replace them, and so with the increase in trains when Airtrack is completed the barriers will be down for anything up to 50 mins an hour, effectively locking the town's roads. (There are two ways in from the North and East without having to cross a railway, but the town centre is close by two of the crossings). Needless to say, none of the Airtrack services will actually be calling at Egham.

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I think it looks real good. I've seen it before. The only issue I have is why can't you go from Manchester to Birmingham or Glasgow to Manchester...
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Old August 28th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #396
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Old trains of Great Britain...

Old trains of Great Britain...

Not the very old just multiple units from the 40s, 50s and 60s...












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Old August 28th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #397
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Old August 28th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #398
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I think it looks real good. I've seen it before. The only issue I have is why can't you go from Manchester to Birmingham or Glasgow to Manchester...
It says in the report about 4 trains per hour between regional cities. That could be Manchester to Brum for example.
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As I see it the proposed line is of mainline-and-branch configuration. It would be good if Manchester, Birmingham etc could be connected to the main line in the other direction, then you could potentially have fast Glasgow - Manchester - Birmingham - London service.

Another line going through the midlands and north coast would be good as well, e.g. Leicester, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Edinburg, but we are talking about potential lines after HS2, which itself will be decades away if it does get built...
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Why should there be a problem regarding the city centres. You can link the new line to the existing network and use the existing tracks and stations in the cities. Costs a few minutes but is much cheaper. The TGV doesn't run with 300km/h within Paris either.
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